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Re: WDFW Commission Meeting Regarding Spring Bear Seasons This Morning
« Reply #105 on: November 20, 2021, 11:06:54 AM »
Stephanie Simek, WDFW’s carnivore section manager
Just to verify… WDFW and the Carnivore Section Manager have their hands tied and it is the commission’s decision to make. Ms Simek was simply confirming the leading question that was asked of her.
Correct?
Yes

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Re: Contact the Commission - Spring Bear
« Reply #106 on: November 20, 2021, 11:12:09 AM »
Would someone please list all of the rules they broke with procedure?
What rules were broken?
That's what I'm asking. Were they required to hear from the GMAC before voting on this? I don't understand this vote at all.
The GMAC is simply an advisory commission. The Commission can essentially do what they want, no matter what advisory commissions or agency staff recommend.

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So, what's the point of the GMAC then if their recommendations aren't taken into consideration by the commission? Seems to me it's a complete waste of their efforts and any expense incurred.  :dunno:
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Re: Contact the Commission - Spring Bear
« Reply #107 on: November 20, 2021, 11:15:22 AM »
Would someone please list all of the rules they broke with procedure?
What rules were broken?
That's what I'm asking. Were they required to hear from the GMAC before voting on this? I don't understand this vote at all.
The GMAC is simply an advisory commission. The Commission can essentially do what they want, no matter what advisory commissions or agency staff recommend.

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Hey Bigtex... What do you feel the likelihood of getting legislation passed that would make all wildlife regulations based on the science and biologist recommendations?  I have read that other states are working on this but haven't heard of it here.

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Re: Contact the Commission - Spring Bear
« Reply #108 on: November 20, 2021, 11:15:51 AM »
GMAC is a tool for protocol and lip service.

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Re: Contact the Commission - Spring Bear
« Reply #109 on: November 20, 2021, 11:16:23 AM »
Would someone please list all of the rules they broke with procedure?
What rules were broken?
That's what I'm asking. Were they required to hear from the GMAC before voting on this? I don't understand this vote at all.
The GMAC is simply an advisory commission. The Commission can essentially do what they want, no matter what advisory commissions or agency staff recommend.

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So, what's the point of the GMAC then if their recommendations aren't taken into consideration by the commission? Seems to me it's a complete waste of their efforts and any expense incurred.  :dunno:
Their role is to simply advise/provide a recommendation on a limited focus area. For the GMAC it's game management. These advisory commissions have no actual authority and in most instances aren't even required by law. But like I said, the Commission doesn't have to follow their recommendation.

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Re: Contact the Commission - Spring Bear
« Reply #110 on: November 20, 2021, 11:19:45 AM »
Would someone please list all of the rules they broke with procedure?
What rules were broken?
That's what I'm asking. Were they required to hear from the GMAC before voting on this? I don't understand this vote at all.
The GMAC is simply an advisory commission. The Commission can essentially do what they want, no matter what advisory commissions or agency staff recommend.

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Hey Bigtex... What do you feel the likelihood of getting legislation passed that would make all wildlife regulations based on the science and biologist recommendations?  I have read that other states are working on this but haven't heard of it here.
The term science has new meanings now. "The science" is now what our government says it is.
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Re: Contact the Commission - Spring Bear
« Reply #111 on: November 20, 2021, 11:25:52 AM »
That’s odd because I drew a tag.
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Re: Contact the Commission - Spring Bear
« Reply #112 on: November 20, 2021, 11:35:19 AM »
Which 4 commissioners voted against the spring hunts?  I'm sure Baker, Koontz, and Smith were three of them...who was the fourth?

Turn coat Chairman Carpenter. May his name be erased from sportsmen past positive comments. He makes me ill
Wow.  That surprises me a bit and is very disappointing.  He must want something from the other 3.
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Re: WDFW Commission Meeting Regarding Spring Bear Seasons This Morning
« Reply #113 on: November 20, 2021, 11:38:55 AM »
Stephanie Simek, WDFW’s carnivore section manager
Just to verify… WDFW and the Carnivore Section Manager have their hands tied and it is the commission’s decision to make. Ms Simek was simply confirming the leading question that was asked of her.
Correct?

Yes, all of the WDFW staff in the video presented studies, evidence, and were for continuing the spring bear hunt as was WDFW director Susewind.

Baker (the commissioner, a politician, asking the question of Stephanie) voted no on the spring bear hunt due to public testimony in the last commission meeting where they got 90% public disapproval.  She voted according to that.

The other 3 are anti hunters and will always vote against hunters.

Hunters don't show up, due to bad times (working or hunting) or they don't know it going down, or have simply given up.

Meanwhile the 3 antis on the commission send out notices to all the anti hunting groups and collaborate a big turn out at these meetings.  This gives the anti hunting commissioners ammunition to vote down anything they want.

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Re: Contact the Commission - Spring Bear
« Reply #114 on: November 20, 2021, 11:42:10 AM »
That’s odd because I drew a tag.

Which is sad because I think a lot of people already have those tags, and these tags are going to grow and grow in numbers.

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Re: Contact the Commission - Spring Bear
« Reply #115 on: November 20, 2021, 11:57:26 AM »
I know the commission is it's own entity, but I just got done writing my Senator and two Reps to express my disgust and make them aware.  Not sure that they can/would do anything, but maybe.... 

Worth a shot though.
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Re: Contact the Commission - Spring Bear
« Reply #116 on: November 20, 2021, 12:10:39 PM »
Inslee appoints the members.

State senate then confirms the appointments

I think its wortheile to write your district senator because several of them aren't confirmed, yet they're voting on issues.



Read this
http://www.sci-washington.com/advocacy.html

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Re: Contact the Commission - Spring Bear
« Reply #117 on: November 20, 2021, 12:24:55 PM »
Inslee appoints the members.

State senate then confirms the appointments

I think its wortheile to write your district senator because several of them aren't confirmed, yet they're voting on issues.



Read this
http://www.sci-washington.com/advocacy.html

And there is still an open position in eastern wa that hasn’t been appointed

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Re: Contact the Commission - Spring Bear
« Reply #118 on: November 20, 2021, 12:26:07 PM »
Inslee already has what he wants in this commission, the lefty westside vote

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Re: WDFW Commission Meeting Regarding Spring Bear Seasons This Morning
« Reply #119 on: November 20, 2021, 12:33:23 PM »
Good. I don’t want people bashing her based on the way she gave her answer.
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