WDFW Spring Bear 2022 cancelled!

[trophyhunt]

Contact the Commission link - https://wdfw.wa.gov/about/commission/contact

sent message!  Wasn’t rude but I’m sure I’ll never draw another special permit for anything, not that I was either way.

[KFhunter]

I sit on a board and if I don't see the information that I want to see in front of me to support or reject a proposal my default is not to vote no. I will suggest to my fellow board members that we table the proposal or motion and direct staff to produce the information that I want to see before further consideration. It seems like that might have been a reasonable option for this commissioner if she's really all about the science backing the decision.

They threw WDFW bio information out, all the hard work and best science their funding would allow

For once WDFW was not the enemy here and I find myself defending them. 

The council made up BS excuses and reasons, asked for unrealistic studies using unproven means and worse made false correlations in the data.   

[saylean]

Her statement of,  “  So while the argument is strong that spring hunting of bears as they emerge from hibernation when they are thin, starving, lethargic and less able to avoid threats violates the hunting ethics of fair chase, in my opinion,  that is simply the underpinning of my vote against a spring bear hunt…” proves a preconditional bias against bear hunting. Since the ethics of the hunt were not in question, and her vote was based to some degree upon this, her vote should be immediately discounted and she should be then removed from the committee.

[KFhunter]

Inslee is root of all these problems, he would appoint someone else just like her.

[Sitka_Blacktail]

Lorna Smith is their Executive Director. That should provide insight into her perspective.

http://westernwildlife.org/

This link doesn't work Bob, FYI.

Worked for me. And here is an interesting quote from their website considering Smith's vote and her reasoning.......   " Today, in Washington it is still extremely rare to encounter a grizzly bear, but black bear populations are stable and healthy." 

So their organization believes the black bear population is "Stable and Healthy" under current management, but she's voting against opportunity because she basically doesn't believe any of the data given to her.  I call BS and I believe there is no information that could be presented to her that would cause her to change her vote.  She is an anti hunt plant, period.

[hughjorgan]

Inslee is root of all these problems, he would appoint someone else just like her.

It will probably be the idiot carpenter that he replaces next

[dwils233]

For once WDFW was not the enemy here and I find myself defending them. 

This can't be overstated. Call out the agency when it's in the wrong, but on this they were in the right and backed it up with evidence. Pressure only needs to be applied to the commission. If anything we should be grateful to the department and Susewind for putting up the fight they did

[idahohuntr]

For once WDFW was not the enemy here and I find myself defending them. 

This can't be overstated. Call out the agency when it's in the wrong, but on this they were in the right and backed it up with evidence. Pressure only needs to be applied to the commission. If anything we should be grateful to the department and Susewind for putting up the fight they did

Probably best to email the Governor and key legislators noting how poorly Lorna treated state staff and that she is unfit to serve.

[trophyhunt]

Agree, the lady who I talked to today was pissed at some of those commisioners, she said we need to send emails that will become public record. She also thinks with lots of backlash we could get spring bear next year.  I asked about points and she said they have been getting a lot of questions on those but don’t know what they are going to do yet. At least we have half of Wdfw on our side on this one, after talking w her, I have hope for next year.

[johnaferrera]

Everyone needs to contact the commission and complain about the lack of using science based wildlife management over certain commissioners social agendas.

[saylean]

I have requested all emails from the wdfw to the commission and GMAC as well as all text messages and any and all online comments for or against the spring bear hunt, via the freedom of information act.
Once received I will do a file dump if possible.

[Griiz]

I have requested all emails from the wdfw to the commission and GMAC as well as all text messages and any and all online comments for or against the spring bear hunt, via the freedom of information act.
Once received I will do a file dump if possible.

Thank You

[highcountry_hunter]

One thing that hasn’t been mentioned about this whole tie vote debacle, there is supposed to be 9 commission members. The 9th member, who is supposed to be a representative of eastern Washington, has yet to be elected or appointed. And as said before, a handful of the current commission members have yet to be sworn in. In my opinion they shouldn’t be able to make major changes until the board has been filled and all sworn in.

[Mr Mykiss]

I have requested all emails from the wdfw to the commission and GMAC as well as all text messages and any and all online comments for or against the spring bear hunt, via the freedom of information act.
Once received I will do a file dump if possible.

That’s my boy!!

[Special T]

One thing that hasn’t been mentioned about this whole tie vote debacle, there is supposed to be 9 commission members. The 9th member, who is supposed to be a representative of eastern Washington, has yet to be elected or appointed. And as said before, a handful of the current commission members have yet to be sworn in. In my opinion they shouldn’t be able to make major changes until the board has been filled and all sworn in.

2 rcw are in violation. Perhaps more.  Not only are locations important  but stake holders. KOONTZ replaced the comerical fishermans reb Bob Kehoe. Now you maybor not care for the com fishery group but Kehoe was a strong supporter of hunters.  Carpenter is over his term length, and it seems ran for Mount Vernon City Council. Since he lost it matters not but if he won would be in elligable for the comission. We have a vacant seat. Smith and Koontz are not confirmed by the state senate. And yet get to make decisions as if they were. Why did the natural resources committee  in the senate not hold confermation votes? Kevin  VAN deWeg  is a HSUS senator of the year many times over and chairmen of the committee.  Its not like Inslee and Van DeWedge are on different  political pages.... so why would that be?