Got Gates? Then don't block 'em.

[Goshawk]

Lets pretend just for a minute that we're all thankful for the few timber companies that still allow us public access and show it by NOT BLOCKING THEIR GATES!  I don't want to see your truck towed, and you sure don't want the bill for when it happens.  If the truck on the right can figure it out, then follow their lead.
Fair enough???

[HntnFsh]

I've been seeing that also. Drives me nuts!

I would be so worried about what could happen to my rig I wouldn't be able to enjoy my hunt!

[Sandberm]

Back in the early 90's i worked in a warehouse for the summer. One of the employees parked his pickup in a bad spot. The employee was gone to a job for the day.

The truck needed to be moved so the grouchy old guy that ran the warehouse went and got the forklift, stuck the forks under the fancy chrome bumper and proceeded to sideshift and drag the pickup out of the way. It bent the bumper a bit. I asked the old guy what he thought "Bob" was going to say when he came back to the warehouse. Old guy said he didn't give a ****, "Shouldn't have parked his truck there"

I kept my mouth shut. For all I know the guy didnt notice the damage right off and probably figured he got jacked up in the grocery store parking lot.

[Rainier10]

I own a chunk of land next to DNR.  There is a gate on my property for a road that goes through my property.  The road leaves my property and goes onto DNR then back onto my property.  I get guys blocking the gate all the time or going through the gate onto the DNR land.  When the road goes onto DNR there is a sign that says authorized vehicles only.  The road that is on DNR is not a green dot road.  To get to the non green dot road you have to go through my property.  I am authorized to be on the non green dot road because I own the property the road goes to and have an easement.  One other property owner is authorized as well.  We along with DNR employees are the ones that the authorized vehicles only sign is for.

I hate the people that drive in because there is no lock on the gate and I really hate the people that park in front of the gate so I can't get to my property.

Uneducated people are frustrating for sure.

Heck I had a county employees remove my sign from the gate because he assumed it was a DNR gate.  After I questioned him about it he called DNR and found out it was my private gate and apologized for removing my signage from my gate.

 

[huntnfmly]

The gate blocks people from accessing Dnr land?
Isn’t this how we get into the problem of land locked public land?
Seriously just askin
I agree with not blocking gates part to this thread

[Naches Sportsman]

What’s even better is when you have these types of people doing this during fire season and have a reported fire behind the gate and can’t get there without either ripping one side of the gate off or getting a helicopter ride in if there’s anywhere to land nearby.

[craigapphunt]

Saw alot of this business in my travels this year I'd say maybe people just don't know any better but when it's clearly posted on the gate and still being blocked it gives me a pretty good idea of the type of people we're dealing with.

[LDennis24]

The gate blocks people from accessing Dnr land?
Isn’t this how we get into the problem of land locked public land?
Seriously just askin
I agree with not blocking gates part to this thread

This has been a hot issue many times. I live in a similar area as Rainier10 and people always show up and think since there's a road and I'm an American I can drive in there because at the end of it is public land. WRONG! The road is an easement for employees or landowners or building owners. The piece by my house was transfered to DNR but the buildings and the old house on the property still belonged to a private individual. They own the buildings but are not allowed to build anything new or alter the landscape, kind of a grandfathered thing, and have an easement (the old driveway) to access the buildings and farm the land. This does not mean you can drive up the driveway and park at the old house and go out hunting. Your trespassing because you don't hold the easement. The farmer does. ALOT of people don't understand this.

[Rainier10]

The gate blocks people from accessing Dnr land?
Isn’t this how we get into the problem of land locked public land?
Seriously just askin
I agree with not blocking gates part to this thread

It does not.  The access to the DNR land is from another point.  It just so happens that the DNR land ends at my property.  When I called DNR and asked them do something about the people blocking my gate I was told the gate is on private property and the road that leads to that gate is private as well. They sent me a map of the green dot roads and the "take off" points for accessing the DNR land.  Where people are "taking off" from is in the middle of my property on a private road.  The private road was put in by the timber company.  I bought the timber company land.  There is no public access to that road.

You can get to this DNR land through at least 5 different legal easement "take off" points and hike across the DNR and get to where my property touches it.

I am not blocking anyones access to the DNR.  Those that are using the DNR are in fact trespassing my property and then blocking my access to my own property.

[Rainier10]

What’s even better is when you have these types of people doing this during fire season and have a reported fire behind the gate and can’t get there without either ripping one side of the gate off or getting a helicopter ride in if there’s anywhere to land nearby.

And this is exactly why there is not a lock on this gate, plus I hate gates and having to lock and unlock them.  Unfortunately the guy that leases the DNR to graze his cattle loves his cattle to graze on my property, another reason I need a fence and a gate.

[Timberstalker]

Rainier:

You probably don't even have it posted properly.  Just saying. 




 

[Rainier10]

The gate blocks people from accessing Dnr land?
Isn’t this how we get into the problem of land locked public land?
Seriously just askin
I agree with not blocking gates part to this thread

This has been a hot issue many times. I live in a similar area as Rainier10 and people always show up and think since there's a road and I'm an American I can drive in there because at the end of it is public land. WRONG! The road is an easement for employees or landowners or building owners. The piece by my house was transfered to DNR but the buildings and the old house on the property still belonged to a private individual. They own the buildings but are not allowed to build anything new or alter the landscape, kind of a grandfathered thing, and have an easement (the old driveway) to access the buildings and farm the land. This does not mean you can drive up the driveway and park at the old house and go out hunting. Your trespassing because you don't hold the easement. The farmer does. ALOT of people don't understand this.

Exactly.

[Rainier10]

Rainier:

You probably don't even have it posted properly.  Just saying. 




 

You are exactly right. I made the mistake of putting up targets every 100 yards so the rifle hunters could get sighted in before shooting a nice buck on my place.

[Timberstalker]

People are piece of excrement. 

[Rainier10]

Just beyond where the road accesses my property again the DNR put up a huge steel gate and lock so it’s not like I can drive any where I want.

[Goshawk]

People are piece of excrement.

People are pretty good to deal with, it's the public that drives me up the wall!

[Rainier10]

People are piece of excrement.

They really are and they wonder why private land owners don’t open access to everyone.

We allow a ton of access. Youth, seniors snd wounded warriors get top priority. Special permit holders get access as well. All the while trying to balance harvest numbers so we have a good crop of deer and elk for the following year.

[WapitiTalk1]

How about this scene, walking in a gated WEYCO road for an afternoon hunt. Lock had been cut (I wrapped the chain around the post and gate, and, reported it WEYCO later that evening).  I was a bit more than surprised to round the first corner and see this.   

[7mmfan]

How about this scene, walking in a gated WEYCO road for an afternoon hunt. Lock had been cut (I wrapped the chain around the post and gate, and, reported it WEYCO later that evening).  I was a bit more than surprised to round the first corner and see this.   

Boss, you're missing something.

[Fatherof5]

The suspense is killing me! 

[WapitiTalk1]

How about this scene, walking in a gated WEYCO road for an afternoon hunt. Lock had been cut (I wrapped the chain around the post and gate, and, reported it WEYCO later that evening).  I was a bit more than surprised to round the first corner and see this.   

Boss, you're missing something.

Ya, it loaded slow 

[Rainier10]

How about this scene, walking in a gated WEYCO road for an afternoon hunt. Lock had been cut (I wrapped the chain around the post and gate, and, reported it WEYCO later that evening).  I was a bit more than surprised to round the first corner and see this.   

Boss, you're missing something.

Ya, it loaded slow 

Now that is blocking some access.

[7mmfan]

Someone was having too much fun.

[WapitiTalk1]

Here’s the other side.

[meatwhack]

I’m surprised they cleaned up all the beer cans that would’ve flown out of the bed of that truck after that incident.

[Fatherof5]

I'm betting on that truck being stolen, and that was the dumping spot.

[Goshawk]

I'm betting on that truck being stolen, and that was the dumping spot.

Probably just trying to beat the next guy to a log landing while texting and drinking adult beverages...

[LDennis24]

Shouldn't this be posted in the "AS THEY LAY 2021" thread?

[Tinmaniac]

Mind yur buznezs.Muh fredumb.murca.

[7mmfan]

Shouldn't this be posted in the "AS THEY LAY 2021" thread?

Yes it absolutely should.

[huntnfmly]

The gate blocks people from accessing Dnr land?
Isn’t this how we get into the problem of land locked public land?
Seriously just askin
I agree with not blocking gates part to this thread

It does not.  The access to the DNR land is from another point.  It just so happens that the DNR land ends at my property.  When I called DNR and asked them do something about the people blocking my gate I was told the gate is on private property and the road that leads to that gate is private as well. They sent me a map of the green dot roads and the "take off" points for accessing the DNR land.  Where people are "taking off" from is in the middle of my property on a private road.  The private road was put in by the timber company.  I bought the timber company land.  There is no public access to that road.

You can get to this DNR land through at least 5 different legal easement "take off" points and hike across the DNR and get to where my property touches it.

I am not blocking anyones access to the DNR.  Those that are using the DNR are in fact trespassing my property and then blocking my access to my own property.

Thank you for that reply and explaining the situation at your place
I really was just asking and appreciate the reply

[Bareback]

Shouldn't this be posted in the "AS THEY LAY 2021" thread?

Response of the day

[Alchase]

How about this scene, walking in a gated WEYCO road for an afternoon hunt. Lock had been cut (I wrapped the chain around the post and gate, and, reported it WEYCO later that evening).  I was a bit more than surprised to round the first corner and see this.   

Boss, you're missing something.

Ya, it loaded slow 

Now that is blocking some access.

Looks like what one particular well known outfitter would pull to keep everyone out of the mountain their client was hunting.

[hunter399]

Well at least there is still a gate there to block
I'll try to make this short story.

There was an area this year,with a locked gate.
Put a trail cam a few miles in ,in the spring.
Checked trail cam about every month or so.
Cam had a bunch of small muley bucks,nothing legal to shoot.
Hunted around that area in early season,but not behind the gate cause someone was always there anyway. Heard a few gun shots from time to time. Just figured someone found something legal to shoot or grouse or whatever.

I moved on and kinda just left the cam till the other day.
Walked in from a mile from the gate,snow roads,and thinking
Thinking animals would be less likely to hear us pull up,slam doors and all that.
Get to the gate,busted open,from the rust on the metal that they cut ,look like it been that way for awhile . Well I need my cam I guess will see if it's even there.
Walked the few miles back, not one deer track in the snow,like all deer had been erased. Cam was still there,it was a ways off the road . Had deer pics right up to Oct 16.
This cam would average 2500-3000 pics in one month soak all summer. It only had 200 pics mostly moose and it was working ,no pics erased.

Another thing that I'm seeing Alot of is camping right at the gate ,which is fine when there is a big pull in.But sucks if only enough room for one vehicle.

[bornhunter]

Try owning some property that BPA has an easement through. Every year I had to deal with some idiot who had to tell me the govt owns the land under the lines. I have a fortune invested in locks and gates.

[Goshawk]

Try owning some property that BPA has an easement through. Every year I had to deal with some idiot who had to tell me the govt owns the land under the lines. I have a fortune invested in locks and gates.

There's all sorts of instant experts on property rights and access now that the internet is there to teach them...

[Rainier10]

Try owning some property that BPA has an easement through. Every year I had to deal with some idiot who had to tell me the govt owns the land under the lines. I have a fortune invested in locks and gates.

I own some of that as well. I’m going to have to put a gate on that one because people keep driving on it when it is muddy and rutting up the road. The worst part is the “road” is not even where the BPA easement actually is so even if there was a public easement to the BPA road, which there is not, people would still be trespassing because my road is not where the BPA easement is.

[builtfordtough]

If there's a gate and I decide to hunt behind that gate I park beside it, simple as that.

[hunter399]

If there's a gate and I decide to hunt behind that gate I park beside it, simple as that.

True that!!!!!
I try to leave enough room for one rig to at least get by,and enough room for them to open/close gate. Most swing in anyway.

[HntnFsh]

If there's a gate and I decide to hunt behind that gate I park beside it, simple as that.

True that!!!!!
I try to leave enough room for one rig to at least get by,and enough room for them to open/close gate. Most swing in anyway.

As long as its enough for 1 rig and that rig is a lowboy with a piece of equipment. If it looks too close for that I find a place nearby to park.

[logger]

If there's a gate and I decide to hunt behind that gate I park beside it, simple as that.

True that!!!!!
I try to leave enough room for one rig to at least get by,and enough room for them to open/close gate. Most swing in anyway.

As long as its enough for 1 rig and that rig is a lowboy with a piece of equipment. If it looks too close for that I find a place nearby to park.

good job! i have ran into this issue moving equipment numerous times, sometimes we have had to gingerly move a rig if in fact that person made a honest effort to be out of the way. If not then they get drug like a goverment mule.

[bornhunter]

This is what I had made for BPA easement.

[Rainier10]

Thanks bornhunter, I will get one of those made up and hope that it works.

[bornhunter]

Thanks bornhunter, I will get one of those made up and hope that it works.

 

[Goshawk]

To make it more enforceable, don't forget to quote the proper RCW for criminal trespass; RCW 9A.52.090

[Browndawg]

Typical Seahawks fan not using their brain 

[Skyvalhunter]

I don't know about the area you guys are in but the USFS has been closing gates and blocking roads until next spring the past 2 weeks. Just in time for some of the special permits and late hunts. I complained but it did no good.