collapse

Advertisement


Author Topic: P N Wild Podcast Episode 85. No More Spring Bear? With Doug Boze  (Read 7185 times)

Offline JeepWrangler

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Tracker
  • **
  • Join Date: Mar 2015
  • Posts: 73
  • Location: United States
  • Groups: Wildlife Committee of Wa, Washington State Bowhunters, Pope and Young
P N Wild Podcast Episode 85. No More Spring Bear? With Doug Boze
« on: November 24, 2021, 05:11:52 AM »
P N Wild Podcast Episode 85. 'No More Spring Bear? With Doug Boze'

Would Like To Encourage Everyone to Listen
« Last Edit: November 24, 2021, 05:17:38 AM by JeepWrangler »
Member: Washingtonians For Wildlife Conservation
Member: Wildlife Committee of Washington
Member: Washington State Bowhunters
Financial Supporter: Blood Origins
Member: Western Bear Foundation
Pope & Young Book: Washington Black Bear

Online nwwanderer

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Sep 2010
  • Posts: 4681
Re: P N Wild Podcast Episode 85. No More Spring Bear? With Doug Boze
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2021, 06:31:24 AM »
Thanks, pressure on the commission is in order.  We can deal in emotion too.  Any pictures or video of wolves digging out a sow with a bunch of newborns?  How a bout a blackie with a screaming calf roaring a way from an enraged cow.  Maybe a bunch of cows in July without a calf in sight.  Remind them WA has ten times as many bears as cougars.  Using their own rules against them would be good.  Maybe reading RCWs at the next commission gathering. 

Offline hughjorgan

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+4)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2010
  • Posts: 2414
  • Location: Wilbur
Re: P N Wild Podcast Episode 85. No More Spring Bear? With Doug Boze
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2021, 09:20:04 AM »
P N Wild Podcast Episode 85. 'No More Spring Bear? With Doug Boze'

Would Like To Encourage Everyone to Listen

Thanks will give it a listen. BTW Mr Boze goes by Saylean on HuntWa I believe.

Offline trophyhunt

  • Forum Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (+11)
  • Explorer
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2008
  • Posts: 19529
  • Location: Wetside
  • Groups: Wa Wild Sheep Life Member
Re: P N Wild Podcast Episode 85. No More Spring Bear? With Doug Boze
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2021, 09:30:26 AM »
P N Wild Podcast Episode 85. 'No More Spring Bear? With Doug Boze'

Would Like To Encourage Everyone to Listen
can you post a link, I looked but can’t find it?
“In common with”..... not so much!!

Offline hunter399

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Feb 2014
  • Posts: 8653
  • Location: In Your Hunting Spot
  • Groups: NRA RMEF
Re: P N Wild Podcast Episode 85. No More Spring Bear? With Doug Boze
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2021, 09:31:36 AM »
P N Wild Podcast Episode 85. 'No More Spring Bear? With Doug Boze'

Would Like To Encourage Everyone to Listen
can you post a link, I looked but can’t find it?
Ditto
I would like link.


Offline mcrawfordaf

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Longhunter
  • *****
  • Join Date: Dec 2019
  • Posts: 552
  • Location: East Side

Offline saylean

  • Team Slayer Packmule
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Jun 2007
  • Posts: 8380
  • Location: Stanwood
Re: P N Wild Podcast Episode 85. No More Spring Bear? With Doug Boze
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2021, 10:51:17 PM »
Hi guys, it’s me on the podcast. I’m still learning all about the situation but I can tell you, truthfully, we MUST start paying very close attention to this commission on all aspects of work. There are issues I’m aware of that I cannot discuss as of yet that would concern most of you. Ive requested through the freedom of information act emails, text messages and online comments. Once received I’ll do a file dump here.

We need to get rid of Lorna Smith and outshine the anti hunters. We must get vocal, active, annoying. They are coming for your passion. Don’t let them win without a fight. I’m nothing special, just an average joe, but I’ll be damned if I let this continue unchecked.

Offline JeepWrangler

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Tracker
  • **
  • Join Date: Mar 2015
  • Posts: 73
  • Location: United States
  • Groups: Wildlife Committee of Wa, Washington State Bowhunters, Pope and Young
Re: P N Wild Podcast Episode 85. No More Spring Bear? With Doug Boze
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2021, 05:15:11 AM »
Hi Saylean,

Thanks for being on the podcast.

Appreciate you and the guys on P N Wild discussing the topics.

Yes, there are behind the scenes things happening regarding Black Bears in this State, things going on that are not good for Wildlife Conservation.

Appreciate you keeping us updated on things we can do, action steps we can participate in, to help with this issue.

Member: Washingtonians For Wildlife Conservation
Member: Wildlife Committee of Washington
Member: Washington State Bowhunters
Financial Supporter: Blood Origins
Member: Western Bear Foundation
Pope & Young Book: Washington Black Bear

Offline hunter399

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Feb 2014
  • Posts: 8653
  • Location: In Your Hunting Spot
  • Groups: NRA RMEF
Re: P N Wild Podcast Episode 85. No More Spring Bear? With Doug Boze
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2021, 08:27:12 AM »
I listened to it. (Podcast)
I also spend a few hour yesterday listening to commission meeting leading up to this vote.
Very informative .
One thing all of us hunters should be able to agree on.
If you hunt bear or not.
That this is an all out attack on our hunting privaleges.
No way this issue should even been voted on,There rule change processes that are in place for this. The commission is asking for information that would normally be available in a new management plan,which is the time for rule changes.
Our bear population is not in a condition that would warrant an emergency closure of any season currently.
WDFW would also agree that our bear population is stable currently and has relayed that info to the commission.

I know Alot of you are mad about the spring bear season.
It is just purely a recreational hunt now and has been for awhile. The number of permits and harvest is not enough to effect bear population or mitigate bear tree damage.
With that said ....
There is a time and place for rule changes,this was not either of those.
We went from a reduction of like 8 permits to a whole season on pause in the blink of an eye ,with no substantial scientific reasoning .
Is just an all out attack on us hunters ,and we need to stand up to that.

Offline wannabhntr

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Longhunter
  • *****
  • Join Date: Oct 2009
  • Posts: 686
  • Location: Deer Park
"PETA" People Eating Tasty Animals

Offline Tbar

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+26)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jun 2011
  • Posts: 3037
  • Location: Whatcom county
Re: P N Wild Podcast Episode 85. No More Spring Bear? With Doug Boze
« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2021, 09:12:16 AM »
Lots of armchair quarterbacking and shock in the podcast. @SpecialT warned repeatedly on this forum about the real threat of this.  Hunters in general responses were dismal, the effort it takes to post on this forum could have made the difference with the swing vote.  We as hunters are reactivate not proactive, until this changes look forward to more losses unless we wake up and show up. Also concentrating on the ancillary elements discounts your position going into the discussion.  If you are going to push back it needs a strong foundation and some unity amongst users.

Offline Tbar

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+26)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jun 2011
  • Posts: 3037
  • Location: Whatcom county
Re: P N Wild Podcast Episode 85. No More Spring Bear? With Doug Boze
« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2021, 09:26:29 AM »
@Saylean
It's poor form to attack or inundate your allies, like Kelly Sueswind with emails when they could be directed towards more effective players.  Kelly's frustrations were plenty evident during the meetings.

Offline saylean

  • Team Slayer Packmule
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Jun 2007
  • Posts: 8380
  • Location: Stanwood
Re: P N Wild Podcast Episode 85. No More Spring Bear? With Doug Boze
« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2021, 09:55:07 AM »
@Saylean
It's poor form to attack or inundate your allies, like Kelly Sueswind with emails when they could be directed towards more effective players.  Kelly's frustrations were plenty evident during the meetings.

Kelly isn’t a main focus, Lorna Smith is. I understand he is on our side regarding this. In the initial day or so after that announcement of the cancellation I wanted people to make noise and contact the wdfw. Kelly is top dog so start there. The commission has no online social media presence, wdfw does.

My focus is removing Lorna Smith from the commission and continued pressure to reinstate the spring season coupled with much more interaction from the hunting and fishing community, which I cannot do alone and need every single one of you to step up and get active.
I’ve signed up to speak during their next meeting, everyone else on here should to.

Offline trophyhunt

  • Forum Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (+11)
  • Explorer
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2008
  • Posts: 19529
  • Location: Wetside
  • Groups: Wa Wild Sheep Life Member
Re: P N Wild Podcast Episode 85. No More Spring Bear? With Doug Boze
« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2021, 10:00:12 AM »
Appreciate all the efforts, I’ve signed, emailed and called. Had a great conversation with a lady from Wdfw who is behind our fight, but she can’t do anything from her position, told me to tell us to get noisy!
“In common with”..... not so much!!

 


* Advertisement

* Recent Topics

Vail/general archery advice by JeffRaines
[Today at 10:51:27 AM]


Which Tuner? 99 Powerstroke by Cylvertip
[Today at 10:39:13 AM]


Fun little Winchester 1890 project by JDHasty
[Today at 10:24:58 AM]


2025 Coyotes by TitusFord
[Today at 08:55:51 AM]


Heard of the blacktail coach? by Longfield1
[Today at 08:05:23 AM]


Anybody breeding meat rabbit? by HighlandLofts
[Today at 07:35:02 AM]


Resetting dash warning lights by jackelope
[Today at 07:18:27 AM]


Fawn dropped by Rainier10
[Today at 07:11:37 AM]


Please Report Problems & Bugs Here by Rainier10
[Today at 07:10:37 AM]


Back up camera by andersonjk4
[Today at 07:08:42 AM]


WDFW's new ship by Tbar
[Yesterday at 07:07:35 AM]


Cougar Problems Toroda Creek Road Near Bodie by Elkaholic daWg
[Yesterday at 06:10:59 AM]


Wolf documentary PBS by Roslyn Rambler
[May 30, 2025, 07:56:34 PM]


New York deer by MADMAX
[May 30, 2025, 07:38:44 PM]


Halibut fishing by hiway_99
[May 30, 2025, 05:48:13 PM]


Unknown Suppressors - Whisper Pickle by Sneaky
[May 30, 2025, 04:41:08 PM]


KIFARU packs on sale by BigJs Outdoor Store
[May 30, 2025, 02:30:41 PM]


DIY Ucluelet trip by Happy Gilmore
[May 30, 2025, 08:48:54 AM]

SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2025, SimplePortal