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Quote from: greenhead_killer on December 05, 2021, 06:44:23 PMQuote from: huntnphool on December 03, 2021, 09:29:34 PMQuote from: elkboy on December 02, 2021, 06:49:39 PMSad to see explicit cheering of illegal actions that condemned some animals (who had no choice in their selection of species-level biology or geographic location) to a prolonged and agonizing death. The anti's just love to see statements like that, I'm sure. I hope I'm not alone on this site in this regard, and I don't believe I am, but I stand against actions like this. Not the way to work towards resolution of conflict over management of wildlife (which is difficult, I am aware), or convince the broader public that hunters can be trusted in the stewardship of wildlife. It’s unfortunate it’s come to this, but I’ve learned over my many years that there is no compromise on the left. People are figuring it out, it’s not limited to the issue anymore either. 100% spot on. there is no compromise. problem with most conservatives/republicans is were told we have to keep the higher standard, take the higher road. well, look where that has left us. weve been 'turning the other cheek' for so long that it almost appears weve forgotten how to fight. people always think fighting is like boxing, clean and organized. at some point, were gonna have to realize the real stuff happens in the trenches. its a nasty way to go about it, but thats the truth. keep being told to stay the higher moral and do it the 'right' way, well be legislated right out or broke to the point where its an impossible climb out of the hole weve allowed talking heads to bury us inYep.👍
Quote from: huntnphool on December 03, 2021, 09:29:34 PMQuote from: elkboy on December 02, 2021, 06:49:39 PMSad to see explicit cheering of illegal actions that condemned some animals (who had no choice in their selection of species-level biology or geographic location) to a prolonged and agonizing death. The anti's just love to see statements like that, I'm sure. I hope I'm not alone on this site in this regard, and I don't believe I am, but I stand against actions like this. Not the way to work towards resolution of conflict over management of wildlife (which is difficult, I am aware), or convince the broader public that hunters can be trusted in the stewardship of wildlife. It’s unfortunate it’s come to this, but I’ve learned over my many years that there is no compromise on the left. People are figuring it out, it’s not limited to the issue anymore either. 100% spot on. there is no compromise. problem with most conservatives/republicans is were told we have to keep the higher standard, take the higher road. well, look where that has left us. weve been 'turning the other cheek' for so long that it almost appears weve forgotten how to fight. people always think fighting is like boxing, clean and organized. at some point, were gonna have to realize the real stuff happens in the trenches. its a nasty way to go about it, but thats the truth. keep being told to stay the higher moral and do it the 'right' way, well be legislated right out or broke to the point where its an impossible climb out of the hole weve allowed talking heads to bury us in
Quote from: elkboy on December 02, 2021, 06:49:39 PMSad to see explicit cheering of illegal actions that condemned some animals (who had no choice in their selection of species-level biology or geographic location) to a prolonged and agonizing death. The anti's just love to see statements like that, I'm sure. I hope I'm not alone on this site in this regard, and I don't believe I am, but I stand against actions like this. Not the way to work towards resolution of conflict over management of wildlife (which is difficult, I am aware), or convince the broader public that hunters can be trusted in the stewardship of wildlife. It’s unfortunate it’s come to this, but I’ve learned over my many years that there is no compromise on the left. People are figuring it out, it’s not limited to the issue anymore either.
Sad to see explicit cheering of illegal actions that condemned some animals (who had no choice in their selection of species-level biology or geographic location) to a prolonged and agonizing death. The anti's just love to see statements like that, I'm sure. I hope I'm not alone on this site in this regard, and I don't believe I am, but I stand against actions like this. Not the way to work towards resolution of conflict over management of wildlife (which is difficult, I am aware), or convince the broader public that hunters can be trusted in the stewardship of wildlife.
Two reasons the poisoning of the wolves is unfortunate.1. The act will fiel sentiment against hunters even if hunters had nothing to do with it.2. This would of been a pack that would of served nicely for capturing and relocating to the areas so adamant on protecting the beast (Portland, Seattle, etc)
Do any of you use mouse poison? Or Roundup in your driveway? What's the difference? It's poisoning living breathing organisms. Again, what's the difference? The Province of Alberta still poisons wolves regularly with strychnine to reduce their population to help out caribou. A couple hundred a year last I knew. What makes poisoning mice ok but not wolves?
Quote from: KFhunter on December 03, 2021, 11:08:40 AMGross mismanagement was always going to lead to public intolerance, look how far WDFW has fallen in public trust, especially when they call a wolf depredation on cattle an angry badger, a coyote, domestic dogs, or coyotes.."game wardens" had to freaking call Olympia to get approval to call it a wolf attack even when the calf was still alive, its arse eaten out, and the pack howling 100 yards away. These actions led to Stevens County getting their own large carnivore person, Jeff Flood, and now Klickitat county is doing it over there.More counties are going to follow suit.WDFW is in a political quagmire, stalled, they cannot do their job."Gross mismanagement"? I think it's being managed just the way WDFW wants it managed.
Gross mismanagement was always going to lead to public intolerance, look how far WDFW has fallen in public trust, especially when they call a wolf depredation on cattle an angry badger, a coyote, domestic dogs, or coyotes.."game wardens" had to freaking call Olympia to get approval to call it a wolf attack even when the calf was still alive, its arse eaten out, and the pack howling 100 yards away. These actions led to Stevens County getting their own large carnivore person, Jeff Flood, and now Klickitat county is doing it over there.More counties are going to follow suit.WDFW is in a political quagmire, stalled, they cannot do their job.
It is a total mess and it will get ugly and the cost will be huge. Why do the tree huggers get their way these days?