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Grizz poaching in ID
« on: December 08, 2021, 06:17:02 PM »
With all the recent talk of poaching on this site, thought it would be interesting to share how one guy got caught in ID.  An interesting precedent for sure.

https://blog.eastmans.com/grizzly-poached-google-solves-case/

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Re: Grizz poaching in ID
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2021, 06:25:48 PM »
Crazy on technology. Glad they got caught.

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Re: Grizz poaching in ID
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2021, 06:34:07 PM »
Let’s not publicly hang someone before they are actually found guilty. Probably self defense and scared to report it. Shot with a pistol close range?  Wish they put in the effort on managing deer and elk as they do predators.

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Re: Grizz poaching in ID
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2021, 06:37:23 PM »
How does IDFG get a warrant to force Google to release information on cell phones in the area? That doesn't seem entirely legal?
There must be more to that request.
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Re: Grizz poaching in ID
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2021, 06:48:46 PM »
Doesn’t really get under my skin when predators that are protected that shouldn’t be get shot. Ehh, I’ll move on
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Re: Grizz poaching in ID
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2021, 07:01:16 PM »
But the FBI can't figure out who the guy wearing red on Jan 6th in DC is. Uh huh suuuure

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Re: Grizz poaching in ID
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2021, 07:39:07 PM »
Don't need a warrant with Google. They will willingly throw you under the bus.

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/government-orders-google-to-track-anyone-who-searches-certain-terms/

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Re: Grizz poaching in ID
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2021, 07:53:27 PM »
Let’s not publicly hang someone before they are actually found guilty. Probably self defense and scared to report it. Shot with a pistol close range?  Wish they put in the effort on managing deer and elk as they do predators.
Totally agree. Article is making a lot of assumptions. Horribly written in my opinion.  I have had this discussion with buddies of mine and many have said it would probably be easier to not report it even if its self defense than reporting it and going through an investigation.  No good deed goes unpunished.

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Re: Grizz poaching in ID
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2021, 08:49:05 PM »
Case is not solved!  Just showed the dude was there.  More sensational, quick judgement thinking.   :dunno:

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Re: Grizz poaching in ID
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2021, 09:21:57 PM »
According to the article the bear was killed with a 5.7mm 

That's a pistol. FN Five-Seven


One does not generally go out to poach grizz with a small caliber pistol.

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Re: Grizz poaching in ID
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2021, 09:29:52 PM »
Case is not solved!  Just showed the dude was there.  More sensational, quick judgement thinking.   :dunno:
Agree.
While I'm not trying to justify whoever poached this bear, I'm betting any attorney who is worth 2 cents will get these guys cleared.
Unless something has changed in our legal system or there is more to this story, I don't believe that law enforcement can just go on a fishing expedition with a blanket search of random devices that Google has record of. It would be different if law enforcement had probable cause to believe these guys are suspects and then went to Google to see if these guys had been in the area at the time of the bears death. But they can't just snoop on everyone and see who might fit their narrative, that is; were in the area at the time of the bears death.

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Re: Grizz poaching in ID
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2021, 09:30:26 PM »
According to the article the bear was killed with a 5.7mm 

That's a pistol. FN Five-Seven


One does not generally go out to poach grizz with a small caliber pistol.

But it does say something about the 5.7 round!  :tup:
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Re: Grizz poaching in ID
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2021, 09:33:56 PM »
According to the article the bear was killed with a 5.7mm 

That's a pistol. FN Five-Seven


One does not generally go out to poach grizz with a small caliber pistol.

5.7x28 is a cartridge they also make rifles chambered for it like the ps90.
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Re: Grizz poaching in ID
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2021, 09:35:56 PM »
Totally random question, if a phone is in "Airplane Mode" is it still being tracked?
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Re: Grizz poaching in ID
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2021, 09:40:11 PM »
According to the article the bear was killed with a 5.7mm 

That's a pistol. FN Five-Seven


One does not generally go out to poach grizz with a small caliber pistol.

5.7x28 is a cartridge they also make rifles chambered for it like the ps90.

Improbable the bear was shot with a PS90  :chuckle:

 


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