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Cow Hunts After Jan 1st. Why?
« on: January 11, 2022, 11:24:47 AM »
I'm confused at why there are cow hunts after then end of regular seasons, when cows are possibly carrying calf embryos. Would someone please explain the reason for this? I'm sure there is one. I just don't know what it is. Thanks,
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Re: Cow Hunts After Jan 1st. Why?
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2022, 11:27:39 AM »
My assumption without looking at the regulations is overpopulation, winter ground and conflict management in very specific circumstances.

Last year 407 was open until mid January
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Re: Cow Hunts After Jan 1st. Why?
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2022, 11:28:37 AM »
To reduce the population or modify elk behavior (like keep them out of agriculture).

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Re: Cow Hunts After Jan 1st. Why?
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2022, 11:46:20 AM »
That makes sense. It just seems a little grizzly, especially if it's a pregnant cow. Thanks for the responses.
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Re: Cow Hunts After Jan 1st. Why?
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2022, 11:55:53 AM »
A conflict Specialist once explained it to me this way....They consider it taking two elk out of the population.  :dunno:
 

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Re: Cow Hunts After Jan 1st. Why?
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2022, 12:01:18 PM »
A conflict Specialist once explained it to me this way....They consider it taking two elk out of the population.  :dunno:
sometimes 3 elk, I think I'll do the gut less method If I'm ever involved in one of those hunts. 
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Re: Cow Hunts After Jan 1st. Why?
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2022, 12:01:55 PM »
A conflict Specialist once explained it to me this way....They consider it taking two elk out of the population.  :dunno:
sometimes 3 elk, I think I'll do the gut less method If I'm ever involved in one of those hunts.
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Re: Cow Hunts After Jan 1st. Why?
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2022, 12:10:02 PM »
A conflict Specialist once explained it to me this way....They consider it taking two elk out of the population.  :dunno:
sometimes 3 elk, I think I'll do the gut less method If I'm ever involved in one of those hunts.


Y so that second elk might be EXTRA TENDER  :chuckle:

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Re: Cow Hunts After Jan 1st. Why?
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2022, 12:17:52 PM »
What's the difference between killing a pregnant cow in Oct/Nov or in early January?
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Re: Cow Hunts After Jan 1st. Why?
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2022, 12:28:01 PM »
What's the difference between killing a pregnant cow in Oct/Nov or in early January?

Fair question. Statistically, nothing. For me, the development of the embryo has a visual that had me wonder the reason to wait. The answer from WSU made sense to me.
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Re: Cow Hunts After Jan 1st. Why?
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2022, 12:29:43 PM »
Same thing as killing a cow in September that has been covered by a bull already. Yes the fetus is larger but I’ve been on quite a few cow hunts from January-March. The gutless method is really good at avoiding that site

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Re: Cow Hunts After Jan 1st. Why?
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2022, 12:31:33 PM »
What's the difference between killing a pregnant cow in Oct/Nov or in early January?

Fair question. Statistically, nothing. For me, the development of the embryo has a visual that had me wonder the reason to wait. The answer from WSU made sense to me.
Yeah that embryo development will keep me more interested in the earlier cow elk hunts, the older I get, the more taking life effects me.  Not seeing the fetus is a bonus. Maybe for wusses like me they can give out permits to shoot elk that are in a pasture with rubber bullets or rubber tipped arrows!!!   :chuckle:
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Re: Cow Hunts After Jan 1st. Why?
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2022, 12:33:37 PM »
What's the difference between killing a pregnant cow in Oct/Nov or in early January?

Fair question. Statistically, nothing. For me, the development of the embryo has a visual that had me wonder the reason to wait. The answer from WSU made sense to me.
Yeah that embryo development will keep me more interested in the earlier cow elk hunts, the older I get, the more taking life effects me.  Not seeing the fetus is a bonus. Maybe for wusses like me they can give out permits to shoot elk that are in a pasture with rubber bullets or rubber tipped arrows!!!   :chuckle:
Last few years, I might as well have been using a Nerf Bow. The Elk embryos have been safe.
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Re: Cow Hunts After Jan 1st. Why?
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2022, 12:34:49 PM »
i believe they do it later in the year because the elk are more regionally congregated around or near by the area that they are causing damage ect. Early in the year the elk are too spread out, lessening the chance of successful harvest and possible not taking an elk that is the cause of the winter damage ect.
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Re: Cow Hunts After Jan 1st. Why?
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2022, 12:40:22 PM »
As others have stated, a pregnant cow is a pregnant cow regardless of what stage of pregnancy she is in. Could even go further and point out that killing females period  is cringy due to the amount of offspring she would produce over her lifespan.
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