Author Topic: SAVAGE 110 build? (Read 18462 times)

Coasthunterjay · « **on:** May 06, 2009, 06:12:18 PM »

Well Just wondering if any one has ever taken the savage 110 or like model and built a target or bench gun out of it?

New barrels........?
Trigger jobs........?
Fancy stocks......?
Anything............?

JUST WONDERING WHAT YOU HAVE DONE OR CAN DO TO THEM.....?

POST PICTURES IF YOU CAN.....SURE WOULD LIKE SOME IDEAS?

dont really know much about savage rifles....

Wanttohuntmore · « **Reply #1 on:** May 06, 2009, 07:29:15 PM »

I've been wanting to for awhile. My friend on here has a M114 American Classic with detachable magazine that he wants to trade me. I'm reluctant because I want to replace the stock with a glass one, but can't seem to find a cheap glass stock out there for it. They seem like quite a platform to build on though!

AWS · « **Reply #2 on:** May 06, 2009, 08:49:48 PM »

Most of your questions on building on a Savage action can be answerred here.

http://savageshooters.com/index.php

I've built four rifles on Savage action, mostly installing custom barrels and fitting the existing stock to me. I like the Accu-trigger and I don't use bipods so I just hog out the barrel channel so it can't touch the barrel even iif I get too far back on the bag. These are all combo varmint/pred or pred/medium game hunting rigs.

Sharp Shooters Supply is the place to go for target parts for a Savage.

http://www.sharpshootersupply.com/

AWS

Coasthunterjay · « **Reply #3 on:** May 06, 2009, 09:46:13 PM »

DAMN......!

THANKS AWS! ILL CHECK THAT OUT.....ANY PICS?

ANYONE ELSE?

yorketransport · « **Reply #4 on:** May 10, 2009, 02:25:36 PM »

I'll throw in another plug for Sharp Shooters Supply and Savageshooters.com. Those are two of the best resources for all things Savage. Here's a couple pics of my Savage build. It doesn't look drastically different, but the performance has certainly been stepped up a notch.

It's not a target/bench gun, but here's my Savage build.

This started as an LRPV in .223 Rem. I changed the bolt (baffle, bolt head, and firing pin), had the action timed and tuned by SSS, screwed on a 30" Pac-Nor Super Match 300 WSM barrel, and painted the stock, put on a Leuplod MkII 6-18x40 scope in Burris Signature rings, and called it good. The Accu-Trigger is set at 9oz, and the action is as smooth as they get. I'm working on loads for it, but so far 185gr Berger VLDs at 2980fps are shooting around .4" for 5 shots at 100 yards. Once I recover some funds, I'll look into getting a new stock as well. Good luck with you build!

Andrew

Coasthunterjay · « **Reply #5 on:** May 11, 2009, 07:47:41 PM »

Thanks thats a great picture....

Well so far i have set the trigger at a crisp 2 or so lbs....dont really have a gauge but it is light pull.

also started shaving the stock....started off looking butt ugly, and when im done it will look like a tactical mcmillian. and for alot less! Nice thing about not being scared of messing up.....lol.....

does anyone here no anything about cutting the bolt off and putting and extended bolt handle on a savage bolt? maybe a badger ordinance or something similar? can this be doen with a savage bolt handle?

yorketransport · « **Reply #6 on:** May 11, 2009, 08:22:27 PM »

There's no need to cut the bolt on a Savage. The bolt just dissasembles and you slide on a new bolt handle. Here's a link to some info on the Savage bolt.

http://savageshooters.com/index.php?articleview=Savage%20Firing%20Pin%20Spring%20Replacement

Andrew

Coasthunterjay · « **Reply #7 on:** May 11, 2009, 10:12:47 PM »

yah i saw that....but im going to do it anyways....lol

anyone have an opinion on barrel makers? for savage? was thinking pac nor....any others i might look into?

Ghost1941 · « **Reply #8 on:** May 11, 2009, 10:42:27 PM »

Quote from: Coasthunterjay on May 11, 2009, 10:12:47 PM

yah i saw that....but im going to do it anyways....lol

anyone have an opinion on barrel makers? for savage? was thinking pac nor....any others i might look into?

Mike Rock makes barrels for Savages, Shilen, Pac Nor, Hart, and Lawton.

If you're dead set on cutting the bolt and replacing it. Go with a Badger Odnance. You won't be upset. I have one on my 700 and a guy I know has one on his 700 and his savage. You can find the bolt knob and the installation all in one online for around 70 bucks.

HawkenBob · « **Reply #9 on:** May 12, 2009, 11:02:19 AM »

I have a bit of experience, or at least am gaining it. My hunt bud has a 110 in 270. I just got the custom machined pillars in last week and tonight were bedding it. The front pillar is easy, the back is so close to the trigger assy I just put one in ahead of it a bit that the rear screw wont go thru. The pillar is .02" above the stock for complete contact. Since the action is a round action I had a .675" Radius added to the top of the pillars for no side to side wobble and complete contact.
This is the first step we are taking to accurise the gun. Next will be the trigger...

Were not trying to make a tack driver, just a awesomely consistant hunting rifle.

The gun started as a 300 dollar Walmart gun.

Coasthunterjay · « **Reply #10 on:** May 12, 2009, 05:30:54 PM »

Sure would like to see a picture of those bedding blocks...and i went ahead and set my trigger by myself...no need for aftermarket assembly when you can set the factory trigger....Easy as pie.

well i think im going pac nor...havnt looked into the others yet but pac nr was recommended elsewhere and so i think i got a winner....now to save pennies.....

jackelope · « **Reply #11 on:** May 12, 2009, 05:38:28 PM »

is it an accutrigger gun?
what happened to the weatherby?

Coasthunterjay · « **Reply #12 on:** May 12, 2009, 07:07:31 PM »

Weatherby is sitting in the corner waiting for a scope...just got mounts and rings for her the other day.....that was about 60bucks.

Dont want to take my leupold off my 270 trusty untill i have another one for it so im waiting.....that and i dont have any bullets reloaded for it yet. I have my reloading bench in pieces after my move a month ago......its sitting in the corner of my storage shed and its got some rusty spots so i want to sand it and re-paint it before i mount my new press on it (I also just ended up buying a new lee press)....I dont want my press to rust or get rusty....

But it is coming also....ill practice with it untill i get my savage build finished....

I ALWAYS HAVE A MILLION PROJECTS GOING ON AT ONCE......someday ill finish one of them...lol.

OH AND NO IT ISNT AN ACCUTRIGGER.......actually not a huge fan of the accutrigger...the old style is just as easily adjusted and crisp pulling....if anything i might smooth out triggers edges...kind of sharp and not very finger friendly.

anyone tell me what the big deal with the accutrigger is?

catwithboost · « **Reply #13 on:** May 12, 2009, 07:13:34 PM »

Accu-Trigger
http://www.savagearms.com/at_pressrelease.htm

HawkenBob · « **Reply #14 on:** May 13, 2009, 06:10:05 AM »

Jay, Ill get pics of the blocks. I have them made here in my machine shop. If you have the same style rifle I can have more made easily. I make them out of steel so we can shape and blue them once the rifle is finished. I have the drawing of the blocks still so Ill get a pic of that too.

Give me a day or so and Ill document it all. Tonight Ill seperate the action from the stock as we glass bed it last night.

Its amazing how solid the contact is between the stock and action now. No wood or plastic soft squish as you tighten the screws.

By having the pillars up .02" we gained a much free flaoted barrel too.

Gonna start the trigger tonight...

Got some custom rounds loaded to try this weekend. Buddy is excited.

Ghost1941 · « **Reply #15 on:** May 13, 2009, 07:18:34 AM »

"anyone tell me what the big deal with the accutrigger is?"

8 ounces of pull and you can carry it in the field. Almost like a double safety to keep it from going bang.

HawkenBob · « **Reply #16 on:** May 13, 2009, 09:26:30 AM »

Here is a drawing of the front pillar. For the rear just cut it off .375 under the .675 radius. use a forstner bit to drill. And epoxy them in. The front pillar replaces the little plastic bushing. a .500 forstner bit bores the hole completely thru. The pillar is slathered with epoxy and pushed in and centered by installing the screw tightly.

Coasthunterjay · « **Reply #17 on:** May 13, 2009, 08:55:59 PM »

Quote from: Ghost1941 on May 13, 2009, 07:18:34 AM

"anyone tell me what the big deal with the accutrigger is?"

8 ounces of pull and you can carry it in the field. Almost like a double safety to keep it from going bang.

OHHHHHHHHHHH...... thats cool!...i think im comfertable with 3 +/- lbs for now...ive been living with stock pull untill recently so going from 8 plus lbs to 3ish....is A-OK in my book....

Hey thanks for the schematic of the pillar mount....sure would like to see the installed pictures of it when its done. good job man!

Coasthunterjay · « **Reply #18 on:** May 15, 2009, 11:43:11 PM »

Well thought ide post some pictures as to how far ive gotten with my Factory 110 stock....All ive done so far is a little cutting, some rasping, and alot of sanding.....

Im gonna continue a little more Rasping and sanding here and there, Float the barrel, and then when its ready for paint im gonna make an adjustable cheek plate for it. I will end up cutting about 3 inches of the cheek rest off and ill replace it with a fancy dark wood and polish it....and then paint the stock black and rubberize the hand held areas....

It will have the functionality of a high end stock with a fraction of the cost.....and it will look awesome...!

but like i said....ive just begun.......looks good on a bi-pod and feels alot better in my hands.

LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK GUYS!

jackelope · « **Reply #19 on:** May 17, 2009, 10:01:34 PM »

did you take a bunch of wood out from above the pistol grip?

what caliber is this rifle?

Coasthunterjay · « **Reply #20 on:** May 18, 2009, 06:03:51 PM »

Yup cut about half to 3/4 of an inch into the bottom and almost 2 inches off the top side......gave it a more solid pistol style grip...

hoping the finished product will look something like this...but mine will have a sig elite look. Black and dark wood.
The stock will remain all black and then the adjustable check rest i am going to carve and polish out from a piece of fancy wood.

Ill have to make sure that the barrel lug is nice and bedded. Maybe reinforce it with fiberglass but either way i dont think i cut enough to hurt the woods strength. it is pretty hard wood.

Its a stock off a Savage 110, its barreled in 300WM.

I have been learning alot about these savage rifles and they are so easy to work on....a little bit of patience and mechanic ability and you can just about alter anything.

EITHER WAY YOU WILL HAVE TO SEE HOW IT TURNS OUT WHEN ITS FINISHED....HAVNT GOTTEN MUCH FURTHER. STILL WAITING ON NEXT DECISION. BUT PICTURES TO FOLLOW.

JoshT · « **Reply #21 on:** May 18, 2009, 06:18:33 PM »

Looks like it's getting a little thin in the grip there... don't know that I'd want to remove any more wood... especially a .300 Winny that's going to get packed/hunted.

Coasthunterjay · « **Reply #22 on:** May 18, 2009, 07:06:57 PM »

Yah hunting/bench gun............probably not much packing, but it needs to be sturdy as a pack gun.

I thought about it being weak also.....hope this stock will take alot more force than a Win mag.....Thats what i have been waiting on....

Planning on reinforcing the front end of the forend with an aluminum rod epoxied down the length of the rifle. keep the wood from warping in extreme weather conditions and touching the barrel....and maybe look into reinforcing the handle area also......Maybe with a rod, maybe wrap the handle with fiberglass down to the rest of the stock. Maybe just the handle area....still thinking.....

Any ideas of how to make it stronger?

JoshT · « **Reply #23 on:** May 18, 2009, 07:34:38 PM »

Quote from: Coasthunterjay on May 18, 2009, 07:06:57 PM

Any ideas of how to make it stronger?

Yep... here you go: http://www.bellandcarlson.com/duramaxx.html for only $109 it's a good solid stock. Buddy of mine had one on a HB Savage in .270WSM and it was a sweet set-up.

Also... a rod epoxied in the end will only stiffen it up a bit... not keep the whole thing from warping. I went away from the "A" (vertical pistol grip) style stock on my long range gun... it's tough to shoot well from all the different positions you're faced with in the field. I know you see them on a lot of tactical style guns... and some dedicated LR guns... but to me the original Sendero stock is still the best of the bunch when it comes to shootability.

Coasthunterjay · « **Reply #24 on:** May 18, 2009, 08:05:52 PM »

Quote

it's tough to shoot well from all the different positions you're faced with in the field

HUH! THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION....

And I havent ever seen that stock.....that looks good man....!

Yah I may do that when im all said and done...Ill keep it like this for the 300WM. and then when I decide to change barrels(way-way-way down the road) Ill get that stock......looks good though....I like it. THANKS

Not to expensive either and Bell and Carlson is good stuff.

I also still want to mod this stock though...It has been alot of fun and ide be proud of it, if it comes out like I want it to. Maybe Ill do a little bit less now and not get so complicated......

THANKS AGAIN GUYS FOR LOOKING OUT!

THATS WHAT I CALL A SOLID.

Coasthunterjay · « **Reply #25 on:** May 18, 2009, 08:12:09 PM »

Hey just wanted to say thanks again to Jackelope and JoshT.....I figured that was what you were meaning by asking your question so its nice to know there is an alternative....and im going to order a magazine that way when time comes i can order it.

THANKS GUYS!

ALL THE SUGGESTIONS HELP!

HawkenBob · « **Reply #26 on:** May 20, 2009, 09:50:34 AM »

this is what I did to my hunt buds 110. The pillar install. Notice the barrel and action get raised up .02" for a full free floated barrel. The rear pillar is just glued into the stock ahead of the rear screw.

Coasthunterjay · « **Reply #27 on:** May 20, 2009, 05:10:39 PM »

thanks again.......interesting....so its just pillars then? cool!

jackelope · « **Reply #28 on:** May 20, 2009, 05:11:08 PM »

what is a dragon egg?

HawkenBob · « **Reply #29 on:** May 21, 2009, 05:50:28 AM »

Its what Baby dragons come out of. Lol Sorry, couldent resist.

Coasthunterjay · « **Reply #30 on:** May 22, 2009, 03:33:30 PM »

its just something dorky.......dont really know but i ended up getting one to see what happens...guess it grows into a dragon by getting more clicks or something....Not sure.....but its gone

Ghost1941 · « **Reply #31 on:** May 23, 2009, 08:50:28 AM »

Well i clicked it for ya, but you got rid of it lol. Hey man, if you need any help with paint jobs or patterns let me know. I've done a few and my buddy has done a few on M4 carbines and stuff as well as a whole crap load of paintball guns(which isn't much different if you saw these paintball guns).

When I get back to Washington I'll see if I can find some pictures.

Coasthunterjay · « **Reply #32 on:** May 25, 2009, 06:02:04 AM »

Thanks man I appriciate that...yah i think off the bat ill probabably go with a straight black look and maybe spray some rubber sound deadener spray on the grip areas for feel and look...but the cool part of the stock will be the check piece. im thinking burl but im not sure how easily ill be able to get some....I figured a 2x4x6inch piece and then go from there to piece it in.

Oh and i floated the barrel the other day. Basically for the savage 110 it was very simple. The stocks forend is curved at the tipand so all you have to do is take something that is just a bit larger than the diameter of the opening at the end of the barrel and sandpaper and clean it out....I used a 14 deep socket wrapped it with 220 sandpaper and went to town till it was nice and smooth.

Installed the rest of the gun..slipped a few dollar bills underneath it and no rubbing.....(two thumbs up). so for now im happy....

I just cant wait till i get the balls to cut the check comb off. but ill wait till i actually have the wood.

BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS OF HOW TO GET A BETTER PAINT JOB OFF THE BAT THAT COULD HELP. Maybe i should just spray the whole rifle rubberized?

Ghost1941 · « **Reply #33 on:** May 25, 2009, 06:27:17 AM »

Quote from: Coasthunterjay on May 25, 2009, 06:02:04 AM

Thanks man I appriciate that...yah i think off the bat ill probabably go with a straight black look and maybe spray some rubber sound deadener spray on the grip areas for feel and look...but the cool part of the stock will be the check piece. im thinking burl but im not sure how easily ill be able to get some....I figured a 2x4x6inch piece and then go from there to piece it in.

Oh and i floated the barrel the other day. Basically for the savage 110 it was very simple. The stocks forend is curved at the tipand so all you have to do is take something that is just a bit larger than the diameter of the opening at the end of the barrel and sandpaper and clean it out....I used a 14 deep socket wrapped it with 220 sandpaper and went to town till it was nice and smooth.

Installed the rest of the gun..slipped a few dollar bills underneath it and no rubbing.....(two thumbs up). so for now im happy....

I just cant wait till i get the balls to cut the check comb off. but ill wait till i actually have the wood.

BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS OF HOW TO GET A BETTER PAINT JOB OFF THE BAT THAT COULD HELP. Maybe i should just spray the whole rifle rubberized?

We did that with the rubber spray on *censored* for coating tools. IT comes out looking and feeling good, but if a bit of it starts to peel off it will continue to peel.

Coasthunterjay · « **Reply #34 on:** May 26, 2009, 07:35:41 PM »

Alright i keep going back and forth on this but i decided that im just going to spray paint the stock as it is.....Floated. fits tightly....Might see about making some pillars for it and pillar mounting it....

But i think i am going to wait and save up for that bell&carlson stock......was flipping through a old cabelas mag today and saw it again and well thats what i want to do.....SO finish what i got and then wait....

Thanks for the ideas and info........every bit is helpful!

Huntbear · « **Reply #35 on:** May 26, 2009, 07:43:43 PM »

You can always use Krylon paint, and then a clear sealer coat. Just prep the stock real well, and wipe with acetone before painting. I have painted a lot of stocks that way. I even sprinkle some fine sand on all the gripping points between coats.

I have used OD Green and Brown for a camo effect if that is what you are looking for, also.

Coasthunterjay · « **Reply #36 on:** May 27, 2009, 06:20:31 PM »

Quote from: Ghost1941 on May 25, 2009, 06:27:17 AM

We did that with the rubber spray on *censored* for coating tools. IT comes out looking and feeling good, but if a bit of it starts to peel off it will continue to peel.

maybe i could spray it out with the bubberized paint all over kind of give it a textured feel....then spray a clear or black paint over it to kind of seal it together...maybe keep it from peeling.

Worth a try.....its just stuff lying around my little storage unit shop. take pictures later see what happens.

catwithboost · « **Reply #37 on:** May 27, 2009, 06:24:52 PM »

Jay I have done stocks with texture paint and it works very well. Spray it with a low gloss over it and it is very nice.

Ghost1941 · « **Reply #38 on:** May 28, 2009, 09:20:12 AM »

Quote from: Coasthunterjay on May 26, 2009, 07:35:41 PM

Alright i keep going back and forth on this but i decided that im just going to spray paint the stock as it is.....Floated. fits tightly....Might see about making some pillars for it and pillar mounting it....

But i think i am going to wait and save up for that bell&carlson stock......was flipping through a old cabelas mag today and saw it again and well thats what i want to do.....SO finish what i got and then wait....

Thanks for the ideas and info........every bit is helpful!

Check out stocky stocks. It's a website and they have pretty damn good prices, that's where I got my B&C medalist stock.

Coasthunterjay · « **Reply #39 on:** May 28, 2009, 05:50:22 PM »

Quote from: catwithboost on May 27, 2009, 06:24:52 PM

Jay I have done stocks with texture paint and it works very well. Spray it with a low gloss over it and it is very nice.

thanks brian.....i think im going to paint it tonight with primer....i forgot to get alcohol so i cant clean it till tomarrow for the 1st base coat......

Ultimately down the road(probably 6 months or so) my plan is to change out barrels to a heavy to target sized fluted barrel.....And i really like Bell&calson so i will probably go that route....that and it feels and looks good! and i have one on my weatherby so i trust there quality.....

But as for now i am only cocentrating on things that i can do.....

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