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Quote from: huntnfmly on January 23, 2022, 08:30:11 PMNo reason to laugh a fellow member had a legit questionNot laughing at him....maybe re-read my post
No reason to laugh a fellow member had a legit question
If there are 2 recognized varieties of something, then there are 2 recognized varieties. Not 17. Kinda like the silver labs. Silver labs aren’t chocolates. They’re silver. Not a recognized color. I’ll stick to breeding stuff I can eat.
Had to laugh.....”out source a pregnancy”? Maybe I missed something? Do people do that with dogs? My wife is pregnant with number 10, sometimes I wanna out source her.....just a joke! Well maybe when she’s grumpy.
I'm also convinced these puppy mills bonk undesirable pups, that's not in me to do..
Quote from: KFhunter on January 23, 2022, 03:09:43 PMI'm also convinced these puppy mills bonk undesirable pups, that's not in me to do..What do legitimate upstanding breeders do with undesirable pups? Pups that don’t meet the breed standards?
Quote from: jackelope on January 23, 2022, 04:55:04 PMQuote from: callturner on January 23, 2022, 04:42:08 PMMy female chessie has papers like that, non-registered to be bred. While I understand it , I was sold a $1000. dog and told this later. I feel I got taken and I told the breeder that. I was told that if I gave my pup all these tests she would sign off on the papers. Id never heard of doing business like that and would prolly never paid that kind of money had I known. The dog now is 6 years old with no problems and I may breed her to my male . I just want hunting dogs and papers don't make them that. There both good hunting dogs so my chances are there. .I think sometimes the idea behind that is that they weren’t health screened or they have known health issues and they don’t want to propagate that, which makes sense to me. No sense in reproducing potential or known health issues. Eyes and hip and elbow certifications are not the same as papers like AKC pedigree papers.That's impossible to know for 2 years, which is the min age for some of these screens. If the litter is a bad genetic pairing it'll be too late by then, and they shouldn't be doing repeat pairings anyway having learned of it. imo - litter restrictions are meant to put increased value on prized dogs and create a finite quantity. It's more about $$ than increasing the quality.
Quote from: callturner on January 23, 2022, 04:42:08 PMMy female chessie has papers like that, non-registered to be bred. While I understand it , I was sold a $1000. dog and told this later. I feel I got taken and I told the breeder that. I was told that if I gave my pup all these tests she would sign off on the papers. Id never heard of doing business like that and would prolly never paid that kind of money had I known. The dog now is 6 years old with no problems and I may breed her to my male . I just want hunting dogs and papers don't make them that. There both good hunting dogs so my chances are there. .I think sometimes the idea behind that is that they weren’t health screened or they have known health issues and they don’t want to propagate that, which makes sense to me. No sense in reproducing potential or known health issues. Eyes and hip and elbow certifications are not the same as papers like AKC pedigree papers.
My female chessie has papers like that, non-registered to be bred. While I understand it , I was sold a $1000. dog and told this later. I feel I got taken and I told the breeder that. I was told that if I gave my pup all these tests she would sign off on the papers. Id never heard of doing business like that and would prolly never paid that kind of money had I known. The dog now is 6 years old with no problems and I may breed her to my male . I just want hunting dogs and papers don't make them that. There both good hunting dogs so my chances are there. .
Master Hunter. Just work with your vet. They will help you .
The hardest thing we have dealt with breeding is the lack of appetite getting into the pregnancy. We have had to get creative, rotate foods every couple of days, add flavor supplements, etc. If you have time ahead of breeding, feel free to pre load some calories. You don't want them fat, but increasing food by 10 or 20% might be helpful to give a little cushion. Be sure to talk to your vet ahead of time, some have no clue, it seems, about breeding/pregnancy issues.Hopefully you have done your due diligence with orthopedic, eye, heart, and other genetic testing and that the male's owner has done the same thing. There is absolutely no excuse for breeding dogs with poor genetics even if they are the best hunting dog in the world... someone will pay for it, eventually.
Had to laugh.....”out source a pregnancy”? Maybe I missed something? Do people do that with dogs? My wife is pregnant with number 10, sometimes I wanna out source her.....just a joke! Well maybe when she’s grumpy.We have bred our golden several times. She has every possible test there is...very expensive too. So we had to ask more to recoup our cost. Most good breeders I know don’t have a litter until they are sold, or there is enough interest. We usually have our litters spoken for beforehand. Never have been stuck with one. Seems like some of the puppy markets are slowing down a bit.
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