Washington Wild Sheep Foundation Banquet

[huntnphool]

If you look at the people involved with most all of these volunteer driven groups involving wildlife, whether its sheep, mule deer, mt goats or elk , many if not most of the board members are either outfitters or avid hunter in all the states. Can it be viewed as a conflict of interest ? I guess thats up to each person and how you choose to view it . Having been on many volunteer groups and boards I do know that almost everyone that involves themselves in any of  these volunteer positions have a personal reason for it otherwise why the heck would anyone volunteer their time, effort and usually personal money to the cause..? I am glad we have people to volunteer for these organizations that have a love for the animals because otherwise we could get board members like we have on the WDFW wildlife commission that have an agenda that is 180 from what we as hunters want with their personal desires to protect predators. I am sure there is room for volunteers on the WWS board as with any volunteer committee there is never enough help. I don't understand everything about where the money goes and money to all the other organizations either but I do support the efforts of volunteers doing a job I don't have time to do so I will go to the banquet next week and support them and wild sheep and I am betting many of these questions will be answered there..

 How is this any different than the fishing industry, guides and commercials, getting on boards and advocating for their paychecks? 

[Tbar]

If you look at the people involved with most all of these volunteer driven groups involving wildlife, whether its sheep, mule deer, mt goats or elk , many if not most of the board members are either outfitters or avid hunter in all the states. Can it be viewed as a conflict of interest ? I guess thats up to each person and how you choose to view it . Having been on many volunteer groups and boards I do know that almost everyone that involves themselves in any of  these volunteer positions have a personal reason for it otherwise why the heck would anyone volunteer their time, effort and usually personal money to the cause..? I am glad we have people to volunteer for these organizations that have a love for the animals because otherwise we could get board members like we have on the WDFW wildlife commission that have an agenda that is 180 from what we as hunters want with their personal desires to protect predators. I am sure there is room for volunteers on the WWS board as with any volunteer committee there is never enough help. I don't understand everything about where the money goes and money to all the other organizations either but I do support the efforts of volunteers doing a job I don't have time to do so I will go to the banquet next week and support them and wild sheep and I am betting many of these questions will be answered there..

 How is this any different than the fishing industry, guides and commercials, getting on boards and advocating for their paychecks? 

Where is there one fish? That the board is the sole financial beneficiary?   

[idahohuntr]

It's not to say that the funds generated do not go back to conservation but is this the only tool to generate revenue? Proviso or directed funds if necessary? If the species are imperiled what is the road map to successful management?  As it stands now there are many questions and few answers other than comments on pack goats. IMHO that's like plugging a single hole in a sieve and claiming actions when the end result is unaltered.Transparency is a foundation of trust and the lack of answer from @ramslam is clear. This is as unique of a conflict of interest situation as I've ever witnessed.  Add in some previous raffle questions and it becomes more concerning.  I'm sure there will be ample time to discuss in the future.

I agree funds generally go to a good cause from ANY of the state auction tags, but I have this same question and I am not convinced that the average sportsman actually benefits from these auction revenues. 

I honestly don't know that auction tags will be around much longer in WA anyway.  Get this issue in front of the current commission and I'm betting all auction tags go away in a hurry.  With all the uptick in these citizen petitions lately I'm betting somebody is already working on one and I have a pretty good guess where lorna and her friends are going to vote. 

[MtnMuley]

It's not to say that the funds generated do not go back to conservation but is this the only tool to generate revenue? Proviso or directed funds if necessary? If the species are imperiled what is the road map to successful management?  As it stands now there are many questions and few answers other than comments on pack goats. IMHO that's like plugging a single hole in a sieve and claiming actions when the end result is unaltered.Transparency is a foundation of trust and the lack of answer from @ramslam is clear. This is as unique of a conflict of interest situation as I've ever witnessed.  Add in some previous raffle questions and it becomes more concerning.  I'm sure there will be ample time to discuss in the future.

I agree funds generally go to a good cause from ANY of the state auction tags, but I have this same question and I am not convinced that the average sportsman actually benefits from these auction revenues. 

I honestly don't know that auction tags will be around much longer in WA anyway.  Get this issue in front of the current commission and I'm betting all auction tags go away in a hurry.  With all the uptick in these citizen petitions lately I'm betting somebody is already working on one and I have a pretty good guess where lorna and her friends are going to vote.

So you're saying WDFW is going to turn down that kind of big money for 1 animal per specie? I certainly don't see that happening anytime soon.

[idahohuntr]

It's not to say that the funds generated do not go back to conservation but is this the only tool to generate revenue? Proviso or directed funds if necessary? If the species are imperiled what is the road map to successful management?  As it stands now there are many questions and few answers other than comments on pack goats. IMHO that's like plugging a single hole in a sieve and claiming actions when the end result is unaltered.Transparency is a foundation of trust and the lack of answer from @ramslam is clear. This is as unique of a conflict of interest situation as I've ever witnessed.  Add in some previous raffle questions and it becomes more concerning.  I'm sure there will be ample time to discuss in the future.

I agree funds generally go to a good cause from ANY of the state auction tags, but I have this same question and I am not convinced that the average sportsman actually benefits from these auction revenues. 

I honestly don't know that auction tags will be around much longer in WA anyway.  Get this issue in front of the current commission and I'm betting all auction tags go away in a hurry.  With all the uptick in these citizen petitions lately I'm betting somebody is already working on one and I have a pretty good guess where lorna and her friends are going to vote.

So you're saying WDFW is going to turn down that kind of big money for 1 animal per specie? I certainly don't see that happening anytime soon.

I think if you listened to a commission meeting and heard from Lorna and her friends you would be very surprised.   

[Stein]

There is always the choice to support or not support an organization.  I don't know we have enough on our side to be too aggressive about thinning our ranks.

[nwhunter]

If you look at the people involved with most all of these volunteer driven groups involving wildlife, whether its sheep, mule deer, mt goats or elk , many if not most of the board members are either outfitters or avid hunter in all the states. Can it be viewed as a conflict of interest ? I guess thats up to each person and how you choose to view it . Having been on many volunteer groups and boards I do know that almost everyone that involves themselves in any of  these volunteer positions have a personal reason for it otherwise why the heck would anyone volunteer their time, effort and usually personal money to the cause..? I am glad we have people to volunteer for these organizations that have a love for the animals because otherwise we could get board members like we have on the WDFW wildlife commission that have an agenda that is 180 from what we as hunters want with their personal desires to protect predators. I am sure there is room for volunteers on the WWS board as with any volunteer committee there is never enough help. I don't understand everything about where the money goes and money to all the other organizations either but I do support the efforts of volunteers doing a job I don't have time to do so I will go to the banquet next week and support them and wild sheep and I am betting many of these questions will be answered there..

 How is this any different than the fishing industry, guides and commercials, getting on boards and advocating for their paychecks? 

Where is there one fish? That the board is the sole financial beneficiary?   

I would disagree that the board is the sole beneficiary of the Rocky raffle. WWS gets a percentage of the total tickets sold I believe and they do all the marketing and wdfw gets the rest to spend on the sheep which benefits all of us want to be sheep hunters I would think. Then whomever wins the raffle gets to pick from a couple of outfitters if they decide to go with a guide to hunt their ram. Sure the money guys get the tag most of the time but not always. Atleast its a raffle and not an auction tag so we all have a chance.. Last year there was a Rocky wenaha draw tag and hopefully there will be one this year so there is actually two finally..

[trophyhunt]

I'll take one of those please..... what a dream that would be!!!

[MtnMuley]

It's not to say that the funds generated do not go back to conservation but is this the only tool to generate revenue? Proviso or directed funds if necessary? If the species are imperiled what is the road map to successful management?  As it stands now there are many questions and few answers other than comments on pack goats. IMHO that's like plugging a single hole in a sieve and claiming actions when the end result is unaltered.Transparency is a foundation of trust and the lack of answer from @ramslam is clear. This is as unique of a conflict of interest situation as I've ever witnessed.  Add in some previous raffle questions and it becomes more concerning.  I'm sure there will be ample time to discuss in the future.

I agree funds generally go to a good cause from ANY of the state auction tags, but I have this same question and I am not convinced that the average sportsman actually benefits from these auction revenues. 

I honestly don't know that auction tags will be around much longer in WA anyway.  Get this issue in front of the current commission and I'm betting all auction tags go away in a hurry.  With all the uptick in these citizen petitions lately I'm betting somebody is already working on one and I have a pretty good guess where lorna and her friends are going to vote.

So you're saying WDFW is going to turn down that kind of big money for 1 animal per specie? I certainly don't see that happening anytime soon.

I think if you listened to a commission meeting and heard from Lorna and her friends you would be very surprised.   

I have and I agree with you on what Lorna would do. I'm not sure she'll be the deciding factor on that thankfully.

[huntnphool]

If you look at the people involved with most all of these volunteer driven groups involving wildlife, whether its sheep, mule deer, mt goats or elk , many if not most of the board members are either outfitters or avid hunter in all the states. Can it be viewed as a conflict of interest ? I guess thats up to each person and how you choose to view it . Having been on many volunteer groups and boards I do know that almost everyone that involves themselves in any of  these volunteer positions have a personal reason for it otherwise why the heck would anyone volunteer their time, effort and usually personal money to the cause..? I am glad we have people to volunteer for these organizations that have a love for the animals because otherwise we could get board members like we have on the WDFW wildlife commission that have an agenda that is 180 from what we as hunters want with their personal desires to protect predators. I am sure there is room for volunteers on the WWS board as with any volunteer committee there is never enough help. I don't understand everything about where the money goes and money to all the other organizations either but I do support the efforts of volunteers doing a job I don't have time to do so I will go to the banquet next week and support them and wild sheep and I am betting many of these questions will be answered there..

 How is this any different than the fishing industry, guides and commercials, getting on boards and advocating for their paychecks? 

Where is there one fish? That the board is the sole financial beneficiary?   

 Wow, you are seriously twisted right now!

 Are auction tag winners required to hire a guide?…no different than fisherman! 

[CaNINE]

Had a great time last night. Watching the moose tag bid was good entertainment.

[trophyhunt]

Yeah, and the food was pretty good! $55k for the moose tag!!  I think there are a lot of people with money out there, all the auctions went for big money! Couple coolers went for around $3,000!! I bet we raised a ton last night! Was great to see all the peeps I don’t get to see enough! Fun night.

[time2hunt]

It was a great show drank some beer won a gun and met new friends. Would love to see this venue moved over to the East side of the mountain I think Wenatchee would be perfect. As for the wild and rude surprise in the elevator that’s a whole different story lol


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[lhrbull]

yakima would be centrally located

[carpsniperg2]

Yeah, and the food was pretty good! $55 for the moose tag!!  I think there are a lot of people with money out there, all the auctions went for big money! Couple coolers went for around $3,000!! I bet we raised a ton last night! Was great to see all the peeps I don’t get to see enough! Fun night.

Heck $55 I could afford that!!!