Anti propaganda

[time2hunt]

https://myemail.constantcontact.com/Action-Alert--Washington-s-Bears-Need-Your-Voice-Now-.html?soid=1138445563807&aid=Qp2mGetf8Ok


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[Cougartail]

https://myemail.constantcontact.com/Action-Alert--Washington-s-Bears-Need-Your-Voice-Now-.html?soid=1138445563807&aid=Qp2mGetf8Ok


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"Trophy hunters reacted violently."  Writing a letter to the commission is now violence if it doesn't fit the lefts views?

These people are  goose stepping little Nazi's.

I guess it the best time to be alive in America if you're a Nazi.

[Skyvalhunter]

Here we go putting bear cub pictures and words like "Trophy hunters" on their site to portray a negative aspect of the Spring Bear Hunt. So typical of these anti hunting groups. I keep an eye on these clown anti hunting groups by getting their emails. The all come from the same direction.

[phildobaggins]

LMAOOO!

[Yakirack]

Wow, the sharable graphics are interesting.
Most created yesterday. I'm sure they will use those as their backgrounds on the zoom call.
If they actually cared about all animals it would look something more like.

[Bullkllr]

This is why we all need to be actively participating.

[Mtnwalker]

Hopefully those who testify in favor of hunting at the hearing can get out ahead of them and squash their talking points with well-articulated facts... Focus on disproving their rhetoric from the get-go and take some wind out of their sails

[JimmyHoffa]

If antis really wanted to save bear cubs, then they would fully endorse MORE bear hunting (spring, year round, OTC, etc.) for boars.  "Trophy hunters" want boars.  Boars kill cubs when they come across them.  When the sow is without cubs, she'll be ready to breed again sooner.  The way for the boar to have the best genetic survival is have the most cubs be his own, so he kills all the other cubs.  Lions and other animals do the same.  Want to save cubs?  Kill more boars!  But for the huggy crowd, it is all about money and feels.

[time2hunt]

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[Cougartail]

If antis really wanted to save bear cubs, then they would fully endorse MORE bear hunting (spring, year round, OTC, etc.) for boars.  "Trophy hunters" want boars.  Boars kill cubs when they come across them.  When the sow is without cubs, she'll be ready to breed again sooner.  The way for the boar to have the best genetic survival is have the most cubs be his own, so he kills all the other cubs.  Lions and other animals do the same.  Want to save cubs?  Kill more boars!  But for the huggy crowd, it is all about money and feels.

In Alaska black bears and cubs are killed regularly by wolf packs.

[bearpaw]

If antis really wanted to save bear cubs, then they would fully endorse MORE bear hunting (spring, year round, OTC, etc.) for boars.  "Trophy hunters" want boars.  Boars kill cubs when they come across them.  When the sow is without cubs, she'll be ready to breed again sooner.  The way for the boar to have the best genetic survival is have the most cubs be his own, so he kills all the other cubs.  Lions and other animals do the same.  Want to save cubs?  Kill more boars!  But for the huggy crowd, it is all about money and feels.

Since when would an antihunter consider what's actually best for animals? About their only purpose on earth is to oppose hunting, fishing, and all sorts of other activities they think other people shouldn't be able to do! Their whole life is focused on forcing their personal views on other people! 

[Stein]

You guys think the average ant digs any deeper than an online meme or forwarded picture?

We simply need to at least match the level of voice.  Completely take away the possibility for the commission to say public is in support of XYZ by counting comments.

[buckfvr]

WDFW suggested science supports a spring hunt.  Science "SHOULD" trump all else.  Anti-hunters as well as hunters are considered a special interest group in the matter and falling back on science should prevail, and this, they should be reminded of.   

Also, it has always been my observation a "tie vote" resulted in "status quo", not change.  How in the heck did they pull that off anyway?

[Yakirack]

Be sure to go comment.
https://publicinput.com/G5473

[Bullkllr]

Be sure to go comment.
https://publicinput.com/G5473

A recent comment; wow, but typical of the delusion we're up against.
"I oppose the Spring bear hunt from Britain as do so many others I speak to . How can you possibly kill mother and cubs coming out of hibernation it is just so against all rules of nature and just to satisfy the bloodlust of depraved hunters.
A country is judged on how it treats the people and animals in its care ,these types of unnecessary actions make you know better than Russia or China ."

[Chesapeake]

A British person talking about how folks should treat others and animals. LOL person must not be much for history.

[Bullkllr]

But by the same token, I doubt if many (any?) Brits are speaking up in favor of reinstating our spring bear season.

[JimmyHoffa]

A British person talking about how folks should treat others and animals. LOL person must not be much for history.

:yeah:All those fancy bearskin hats that the British military marches around in are made from real bears from Canada.

[Stein]

A British person talking about how folks should treat others and animals. LOL person must not be much for history.

Doubt the queen is looking for public input on how to manage the royal animals.

[Chesapeake]

Maybe we need to invite the Canuks down here for a culling operation.

Bearskin hats are made from the skin of American black bears, taken annually during the Black Bear Cull in Canada. The British Army takes 100 skins for itself, supposedly a mere fraction of the thousands of bears that are killed to keep numbers in check.

[idaho guy]

[quote author =JimmyHoffa link=topic=268854.msg3650350#msg3650350 date=1646240047
If antis really wanted to save bear cubs, then they would fully endorse MORE bear hunting (spring, year round, OTC, etc.) for boars.  "Trophy hunters" want boars.  Boars kill cubs when they come across them.  When the sow is without cubs, she'll be ready to breed again sooner.  The way for the boar to have the best genetic survival is have the most cubs be his own, so he kills all the other cubs.  Lions and other animals do the same.  Want to save cubs?  Kill more boars!  But for the huggy crowd, it is all about money and feels.
[/quote]   

Exactly I have found large bear crap with bear hair and whole bear claws in it. That’s probably one uncomfortable dump to pass     Hunters killing big males SAVE cubs!

[time2hunt]

https://public.boxcloud.com/d/1/b1!LYKvn-GPRZnr_2f65PCvOkogeNIoM2oCbW6NvwbHTTfjjyWkWKKpDmuF_ETgqv1RY5Xy3P8ZuOyux7CYqtKQ6eMJ9PeSm7ME3TRKiud1TwBegJiPMuaCCbgqrtoA1onqLiOGMZmUaqN2eripR0_Sx8e2KxwCegk5QAAixLfDM2pyVymGsGq6wC3F22Mz1uM3nZGCIuC6BdhBz2WcH9W5HcBA7gUWM2L-xM0a8NbeeY6I76U-aPFPjQ2PGBZ_DFloeK728aWjldntYw_3tvdFOZYXaQUPLXZpUnLiYVRRActCB9oRp57FRShf-rHZ1OXht5UEVZqXICoTLENEApVCpZGCaV9xRcCz4_DFPzgFzC5F47Noq3fL5k57bVdHJGn2Y_2drqm-co9HqmMZwS8a3Ewt1oj2uuAkR07o5dmUKlyKBr-gm4k64P2jFo55_kZ9HJ2EXgxcWzLhqW-YPgTAStzlVSCZDq2Ypg3BhPiq3D7t00WqxvnnsfFGjWqRSxwc7LrZs9PU2qKtRl-0HjT7VMC_i6EmEEjaR4I1DYuBmvORs-MI8FksL3Mdchu-sMheCIasTHmqUkfu1C6MNoXHXGov-diAiZ3bWNyITiG09iAG5ZBsJih1XT7v8dleSgB89vAzIW1Y6fKK_ZFV2EYY0UwcSQIwfqj2NHd7ziwCJtC5NuuITg0M72Yi-0LsexG36Jzrpw3mYq9ibqnWonUia_S-RQsyBGEZ7DWzqpTzXK7pREBWb5fa5gvxmAEpKrbM87I3bSDA_GP-sPx3ch5zbKrc-kl9dj1IducmAi42Q62gVVp-F-3yd6WDFTSuf497WGcRvqyKmx8Otj552RSo7pOKK7SdHD9Sq29PS4RFgYiNAd48liw0XRijvioOZNv_dlwoCXvucbo9BzweORpsucW_yn8N4cvIVnwElVjzst5WgE8QDVLye14lRZw7N85mqDWNW4nJiO9cYuLrs2KrONkddKcXebuZJWm7sBvye-3r5ubR6x0Lqia2XNvThYJBsBDLut5TnPvJcZ5e_cZucnSmK1pqhvS72wX6AV7aFSLyBkOsCDm54Xmba1cRJWGwZVOb9MrGu_nhObiAP_PApEb80Bzu6aHUN3YK8flO-FfYsOtghzE7tMAQM1ni9KvO40JfXrF-qR3jHLbdVpYKpD9SCcUOb5i6ju_6wWsGuPPG7Bk5b5adsFXpbQ0HYAIzhXgjd7U1FHCNb8I-louUE7Z26eqxpfOb7ozAU6qGTogmn2CeFpt2mVgKgPxwcySQBleouuCZZYJh-QW-CkZ9J84_5mczgqx6mS_bTkemxtluL80./download

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[Bullkllr]

Thought this was rather interesting. They have a whole page of sharable bear memes
https://wawildlifefirst.org/stop-the-2022-spring-bear-hunt/

[Bullkllr]

Then there's this gem: 6 page "Spring Bear Action Kit"https://5609432.app.box.com/s/8n9kfu95oc42rvyzsn6frxpeebuybdu1

[Chesapeake]

Folks should read their “mission statement(?)”. They are pretty slanderous of WDFW.

https://wawildlifefirst.org/our-people/

“We have also witnessed many skilled and dedicated Department employees try to reform the agency from within—and management has all too often responded with threats, retaliation, abuse, and dismissal.

We have been brought together by a shared outrage at an agency that evades the law, hides its activities from the public, ignores science and sidelines its scientists, creates a toxic culture for its employees, and manipulates the Commission that is supposed to govern it. And we all share a vision of a future in which WDFW, the Department of Natural Resources, and the Department of Ecology, will all work together to put Washington Wildlife First.”

[Stein]

Folks should read their “mission statement(?)”. They are pretty slanderous of WDFW.

https://wawildlifefirst.org/our-people/

“We have also witnessed many skilled and dedicated Department employees try to reform the agency from within—and management has all too often responded with threats, retaliation, abuse, and dismissal.

We have been brought together by a shared outrage at an agency that evades the law, hides its activities from the public, ignores science and sidelines its scientists, creates a toxic culture for its employees, and manipulates the Commission that is supposed to govern it. And we all share a vision of a future in which WDFW, the Department of Natural Resources, and the Department of Ecology, will all work together to put Washington Wildlife First.”

Funny, I was with them until that last sentence.

[duckmen1]

Then there's this gem: 6 page "Spring Bear Action Kit"https://5609432.app.box.com/s/8n9kfu95oc42rvyzsn6frxpeebuybdu1

Wouldn't expect anything less then a pic of cute cuddly cubs

[Stein]

Cute cubs vs wanton and reckless destruction of trees.  Must be hard on them sometimes to pick one.

[JimmyHoffa]

Then there's this gem: 6 page "Spring Bear Action Kit"https://5609432.app.box.com/s/8n9kfu95oc42rvyzsn6frxpeebuybdu1

Wouldn't expect anything less then a pic of cute cuddly cubs

With milk on it's lips, no less!

[MeepDog]

https://wawildlifefirst.org/stop-the-2022-spring-bear-hunt/
At the bottom of the website theres a 509 area code phone number. You could always give them a call at 3am to talk about bears.

[Bullkllr]

https://wawildlifefirst.org/stop-the-2022-spring-bear-hunt/
At the bottom of the website theres a 509 area code phone number. You could always give them a call at 3am to talk about bears.

I tried to sign up for their email alert list, but I don't think I passed the vetting process for some reason. I should have used a fake name.

[Bullkllr]

This article was linked on the Washington Wildlife First website. The author is president of WWF.
It was an opinion piece published in the Spokesman Review in response to an earlier one written by Kim Thorburn regarding "hunting is under attack" in Washington.

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2021/jan/27/claire-loebs-davis-i-agree-commissioner-thorburn-c/
from
https://wawildlifefirst.org/news/

I found these quotes highly interesting, and highly contradictory of nearly every argument they are using to cancel spring bear. Here they were all about the science, experts (bios) and the law. Nearly everything I have read and heard re spring bear sounds like the opposite.

"Indeed, I suspect most hunters and nonhunters alike would agree that WFDW should respect science and follow the law. Unfortunately, it does neither."
and
"Will commissioners listen to their experts, examine science and follow the law? Or will they take Thorburn’s lead, disregarding facts and demonizing informed citizens as anti-hunting ideologues?"
Maybe its nothing, but it seems like a possible point to use in communicating with Commissioners or in the last round of public comments. 

[Timberstalker]

That article is full of lies.

[Bullkllr]

That article is full of lies.

Oh Absolutely! That's their whole platform: lie, lie, lie, and get enough easily-manipulated people to jump on their side. I was pointing out how they can't even be consistent with their lies.

The bad thing is they have traction and their efforts seem to be working. What will they attack next after spring bear?

[Chesapeake]

What stood out to me over the fact that a lawyer was so willing to slander and attack everyone in site
were these two.

That is nonsense, of course. Ethical hunting is not an “anti-hunting” ideology: One goal of the Game Management Plan that Thorburn is supposed to follow is to promote “high standards of hunter ethics and … principles of fair chase.”

It would be interesting to have her group define what it is they consider to be "Ethical hunting".

That is why my firm has sued WDFW, on behalf of both hunters and nonhunters.

What hunters is it that she is suing WDFW on behalf of? Maybe the different "Defund WDFW" folks?