collapse

Advertisement


Author Topic: Colville-tribe-releases-nine-lynx-into-washing  (Read 8665 times)

Offline wadu1

  • Grumpy
  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (+30)
  • Old Salt
  • *****
  • Join Date: Sep 2008
  • Posts: 7248
  • Location: Tacoma
  • RMEF, DU, NRA, PFE, NWTF
Re: Colville-tribe-releases-nine-lynx-into-washing
« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2022, 06:08:47 PM »
Used to be a pair of them near the Swan Lake Campground (SE of Republic) in the late 60's and early 70's. Saw them more than once while hunting or fishing the lake.
"a fronte praecipitium a tergo lupi"

Offline WapitiTalk1

  • Business Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (+9)
  • Old Salt
  • *****
  • Join Date: Oct 2011
  • Posts: 7909
  • Location: Wet Side, Rainier, WA
  • Groups: RMEF, NRA, US Army (R)
Re: Colville-tribe-releases-nine-lynx-into-washing
« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2022, 06:44:29 PM »
Used to be able to take them back in NW MT. I think the limit was 3 cats, only 1 can be a pointy eared cat.
Darton Archery Maverick II
Traditions Vortek StrikeFire Smoke Pole
Weatherby VG-2 Boomstick
"Poking at a campfire with a stick is one of life's great satisfactions." Patrick F. McManus

Offline JakeLand

  • WA State Trappers Association
  • Trade Count: (+35)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Oct 2011
  • Posts: 4496
  • Location: Wet side
Re: Colville-tribe-releases-nine-lynx-into-washing
« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2022, 05:56:58 AM »
I’m not for transplanting any of these predators period , there’s a distinct reason that they’re not here. Started with wolves and how did that work out ? Then Fisher and now Lynx transplant predators changes the whole balance of areas or regions and not for the good I’m seeing it and dealing with it when it comes to the Fisher as you guys are with the wolves .

Offline zwickeyman

  • Past Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (+23)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2014
  • Posts: 1746
  • Location: Victor Idaho
Re: Colville-tribe-releases-nine-lynx-into-washing
« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2022, 06:00:54 AM »
I’m not for transplanting any of these predators period , there’s a distinct reason that they’re not here. Started with wolves and how did that work out ? Then Fisher and now Lynx transplant predators changes the whole balance of areas or regions and not for the good I’m seeing it and dealing with it when it comes to the Fisher as you guys are with the wolves .

 :yeah:

I 100% agree
The mountains are calling and I must go

Offline buckcanyonlodge

  • Business Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (+9)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jun 2011
  • Posts: 2345
  • Location: Gifford, Lake Roosevelt, Wa.
    • Buck Canyon Lodge
Re: Colville-tribe-releases-nine-lynx-into-washing
« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2022, 01:28:25 PM »
I’m not for transplanting any of these predators period , there’s a distinct reason that they’re not here. Started with wolves and how did that work out ? Then Fisher and now Lynx transplant predators changes the whole balance of areas or regions and not for the good I’m seeing it and dealing with it when it comes to the Fisher as you guys are with the wolves .

 :yeah:  Next ...  coming to the woods near you...... no bobcat hunting....
Thanks for all for your past support...We officially pulled the plug and have retired from the Biz. Still dabble a little in real estate.
Call Westergard Real Estate  for your REAL ESTATE needs in the Tri-County area. Hunting/Recreational or retirement properties. Tri County Area 509-722-3949

Offline buckfvr

  • Washington For Wildlife
  • Trade Count: (+7)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jun 2010
  • Posts: 4515
  • Location: UNGULATE FREE ZONE UNIT 121
Re: Colville-tribe-releases-nine-lynx-into-washing
« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2022, 01:40:53 PM »
I’m not for transplanting any of these predators period , there’s a distinct reason that they’re not here. Started with wolves and how did that work out ? Then Fisher and now Lynx transplant predators changes the whole balance of areas or regions and not for the good I’m seeing it and dealing with it when it comes to the Fisher as you guys are with the wolves .

 :yeah:  Next ...  coming to the woods near you...... no bobcat hunting....

 :yeah:

Offline KFhunter

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Legend
  • ******
  • Join Date: Jan 2011
  • Posts: 34512
  • Location: NE Corner
Re: Colville-tribe-releases-nine-lynx-into-washing
« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2022, 01:43:05 PM »
I’m not for transplanting any of these predators period , there’s a distinct reason that they’re not here. Started with wolves and how did that work out ? Then Fisher and now Lynx transplant predators changes the whole balance of areas or regions and not for the good I’m seeing it and dealing with it when it comes to the Fisher as you guys are with the wolves .

 :yeah:  Next ...  coming to the woods near you...... no bobcat hunting....

They tried to shut down some snowmobile trails already in the Kettle Range,   I met with the bio students from I think WSU at the trail head, they wanted to put a GPS tracker on my snowmobile.  The young gal was very cute and flirty, I didn't take the bait  :chuckle:

Later the club found out they were trying to justify closing the area due to lynx recovery.

Now the tribe is planting them there, the whole area is up for wilderness designation.    That would suck, it's fine as is.   


This was like 10-12 years ago, the Lynx has long been used as a tool to attempt to close that whole area

Offline idaho guy

  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jun 2012
  • Posts: 2826
  • Location: hayden
Re: Colville-tribe-releases-nine-lynx-into-washing
« Reply #22 on: March 12, 2022, 05:15:57 PM »
I’m not for transplanting any of these predators period , there’s a distinct reason that they’re not here. Started with wolves and how did that work out ? Then Fisher and now Lynx transplant predators changes the whole balance of areas or regions and not for the good I’m seeing it and dealing with it when it comes to the Fisher as you guys are with the wolves .

 :yeah:  Next ...  coming to the woods near you...... no bobcat hunting....

They tried to shut down some snowmobile trails already in the Kettle Range,   I met with the bio students from I think WSU at the trail head, they wanted to put a GPS tracker on my snowmobile.  The young gal was very cute and flirty, I didn't take the bait  :chuckle:

Later the club found out they were trying to justify closing the area due to lynx recovery.

Now the tribe is planting them there, the whole area is up for wilderness designation.    That would suck, it's fine as is.   


This was like 10-12 years ago, the Lynx has long been used as a tool to attempt to close that whole area
     

My first thought was they will use it to justify ending bobcat hunting in the lynx areas.  Also antis love to use “ endangered “ species to shut down recreation like snowmobiles etc.

Offline Alan K

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+8)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Sep 2008
  • Posts: 3025
  • Location: Lewis County, WA
  • University of Idaho Alumni
Re: Colville-tribe-releases-nine-lynx-into-washing
« Reply #23 on: March 12, 2022, 05:33:46 PM »
That's the BS about all of these reintroduction, and frankly the endangered species act itself. It's used as a cudgel to forward bigger agendas and isn't about the conservation itself. I don't think many outdoorsmen would be against these reintroductions or trying to help out endangered species on their own, but we know that it will be used to shut down other forms of hunting and recreation and litigated over to the point that they'll never be managed.  Makes it difficult if not impossible to support.

Online hunter399

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Feb 2014
  • Posts: 8696
  • Location: In Your Hunting Spot
  • Groups: NRA RMEF
Re: Colville-tribe-releases-nine-lynx-into-washing
« Reply #24 on: March 12, 2022, 07:45:48 PM »
We are allowed to hunt black Bear in grizzly bear recovery zone still. :dunno: As long as we don't shoot any grizz.
Lynx recovery zones historically do shutdown ,roads,trails,forest tree harvest and reforestation.
The north half......
Natives still believe it's part of the reservation and it's not.
They only retain hunting rights to it.
So honestly to act as If they own it or to try and pull the co-exist stuff is a little far fetched. Saying they are released on the reservation is not true.
And like said in my first post,are we throwing native bobcat under the bus. Will lynx kill all the bobcat in the area.
I'm not saying I agree with them release lynx,
But maybe more research so go into what's there before you just let them go.
Honestly I thought natives where on the hunters side with wolves and stuff ,this really shows they are not.
I'd be more worried about the natives trying to reclaim some of the North half .All that has to happen is someone accidentally shoots a lynx,natives sue the federal government for not protecting lynx and try to claim a portion of the North half back to the reservation. Then boom ...no more hunting for us.
I can deal with gated roads,and walking in to hunt,and some annoying road shutdowns, I would be more worried about natives reclaiming the North half.

Offline KFhunter

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Legend
  • ******
  • Join Date: Jan 2011
  • Posts: 34512
  • Location: NE Corner
Re: Colville-tribe-releases-nine-lynx-into-washing
« Reply #25 on: March 12, 2022, 08:09:12 PM »
We are allowed to hunt black Bear in grizzly bear recovery zone still. :dunno: As long as we don't shoot any grizz.
Lynx recovery zones historically do shutdown ,roads,trails,forest tree harvest and reforestation.
The north half......
Natives still believe it's part of the reservation and it's not.
They only retain hunting rights to it.
So honestly to act as If they own it or to try and pull the co-exist stuff is a little far fetched. Saying they are released on the reservation is not true.
And like said in my first post,are we throwing native bobcat under the bus. Will lynx kill all the bobcat in the area.
I'm not saying I agree with them release lynx,
But maybe more research so go into what's there before you just let them go.
Honestly I thought natives where on the hunters side with wolves and stuff ,this really shows they are not.
I'd be more worried about the natives trying to reclaim some of the North half .All that has to happen is someone accidentally shoots a lynx,natives sue the federal government for not protecting lynx and try to claim a portion of the North half back to the reservation. Then boom ...no more hunting for us.
I can deal with gated roads,and walking in to hunt,and some annoying road shutdowns, I would be more worried about natives reclaiming the North half.

Grizz areas we didn't have a spring bear hunt (irrelevant now)

We can't night hunt bobs in lynx recovery areas

We still can't snowmobile in Caribou protection areas even though they've been extinct in WA for a good 4-5 years now

Lynx don't kill bobs for the most part, bobs are meaner

Fisher do kill lynx


Offline JakeLand

  • WA State Trappers Association
  • Trade Count: (+35)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Oct 2011
  • Posts: 4496
  • Location: Wet side
Re: Colville-tribe-releases-nine-lynx-into-washing
« Reply #26 on: March 12, 2022, 08:47:22 PM »
Fisher kill most everything, had 5 marten eaten and one destroyed by a Fisher this year it was like having a Wolverine following my trapline

Online hunter399

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Feb 2014
  • Posts: 8696
  • Location: In Your Hunting Spot
  • Groups: NRA RMEF
Re: Colville-tribe-releases-nine-lynx-into-washing
« Reply #27 on: March 12, 2022, 09:08:54 PM »
We are allowed to hunt black Bear in grizzly bear recovery zone still. :dunno: As long as we don't shoot any grizz.
Lynx recovery zones historically do shutdown ,roads,trails,forest tree harvest and reforestation.
The north half......
Natives still believe it's part of the reservation and it's not.
They only retain hunting rights to it.
So honestly to act as If they own it or to try and pull the co-exist stuff is a little far fetched. Saying they are released on the reservation is not true.
And like said in my first post,are we throwing native bobcat under the bus. Will lynx kill all the bobcat in the area.
I'm not saying I agree with them release lynx,
But maybe more research so go into what's there before you just let them go.
Honestly I thought natives where on the hunters side with wolves and stuff ,this really shows they are not.
I'd be more worried about the natives trying to reclaim some of the North half .All that has to happen is someone accidentally shoots a lynx,natives sue the federal government for not protecting lynx and try to claim a portion of the North half back to the reservation. Then boom ...no more hunting for us.
I can deal with gated roads,and walking in to hunt,and some annoying road shutdowns, I would be more worried about natives reclaiming the North half.

Grizz areas we didn't have a spring bear hunt (irrelevant now)

We can't night hunt bobs in lynx recovery areas

We still can't snowmobile in Caribou protection areas even though they've been extinct in WA for a good 4-5 years now

Lynx don't kill bobs for the most part, bobs are meaner

Fisher do kill lynx
I didn't know grizzly recovery zone had anything to do with spring bear ? Explain......

Bobcat hunting at night in lynx areas ,we know why that came about.

And the caribou areas shutdown that's just the forest service
There famous for shuting down areas for one reason or another ,never to reopen those roads.

Offline highcountry_hunter

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Longhunter
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2010
  • Posts: 721
Re: Colville-tribe-releases-nine-lynx-into-washing
« Reply #28 on: March 12, 2022, 10:22:29 PM »
Odd that they state in the article that wildfire is a leading cause in lynx habitat loss considering the colville rez is decimated by wildfire on a nearly yearly basis. 2022 was the summit trail fire of 48k acres, 2019 was the Williams flats fire of over 45k acres, in 2015 the north star fire was over 215k acres. And those are just the big ones.

Offline Alchase

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Legend
  • ******
  • Join Date: Apr 2007
  • Posts: 20319
  • Location: Tinker AFB, OK
Re: Colville-tribe-releases-nine-lynx-into-washing
« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2022, 11:00:43 PM »
Odd that they state in the article that wildfire is a leading cause in lynx habitat loss considering the colville rez is decimated by wildfire on a nearly yearly basis. 2022 was the summit trail fire of 48k acres, 2019 was the Williams flats fire of over 45k acres, in 2015 the north star fire was over 215k acres. And those are just the big ones.

Interesting, fire has always been a natural way for nature to "clean up". How is it that a fire is now considered habitat loss?  :dunno:
Only 2 defining forces sacrificed themselves for you:
The American Soldier and Jesus Christ. One died for your freedom, the other for your soul.

My rock,
He trains my hands for war and my fingers for battle.
Psalm 144.1

 


* Advertisement

* Recent Topics

Who’s walleye fishing? by Karl Blanchard
[Today at 09:00:15 PM]


Colockum Archery Bull Tag by oldleclercrd
[Today at 08:47:44 PM]


I’m on a blacktail mission by Boss .300 winmag
[Today at 08:03:51 PM]


Anybody hunt with a 25 Creedmoor? by jjhunter
[Today at 08:01:10 PM]


Fun little Winchester 1890 project by JDHasty
[Today at 08:00:51 PM]


VA Loan Closing Costs by pianoman9701
[Today at 07:21:46 PM]


2025 NWTF Jakes Day by wadu1
[Today at 07:04:31 PM]


Selkirk bull moose. by trophyhunt
[Today at 06:40:17 PM]


September mule deer velvet by erronulvin
[Today at 05:10:22 PM]


Colorado Results by hookr88
[Today at 04:04:40 PM]


Mudflow Archery by Rugergunsite308
[Today at 03:21:25 PM]


Fishing in the tri cities area by metlhead
[Today at 03:08:35 PM]


DR Brush Mower won't crank by EnglishSetter
[Today at 02:31:19 PM]


Mason County Youth Buck Nov 1-16 by ASHQUACK
[Today at 02:18:39 PM]


Swakane Ram by hillbillyhunting
[Today at 12:21:34 PM]


Rimrock Bull: Modern by zagsfan1
[Today at 11:00:13 AM]


Sportsman Alliance files petition to Gov Ferguson for removal of corrupt WA Wildlife Commissioners by dreamingbig
[Today at 10:44:31 AM]


Getting back into dogs by Machias
[Today at 10:40:03 AM]


After a couple years of poor health,... by Skillet
[Today at 08:49:46 AM]


Drew Cleman Mountain Any Ram! by starbailey
[Today at 07:04:50 AM]

SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2025, SimplePortal