Oak creek open up for natives

[Jake Dogfish]

It’s open exclusively to tribal members.  Lots of people are natives but don’t have those special rights.

so the tribal members don’t stress out the elk when they are in there then?

You tell me. 

[Buzzsaw461]

Doesn’t surprise me. This state is screwed up in more ways than one.

[trophyhunt]

No longer will I bash any non natives for sneaking in early in that area, natives are allowed inside the gate to gather antlers, and harvest elk if it is within their time line. I guess this isn’t new but it’s the first I heard of it. Such BS

How do we blame the “indians”, when we the “white” people gave them that!!!!  See where I’m coming from?   Its not their fault.  Hell give me the option of hunting elk year round and I’m gonna kill some chit.  And many many many on here would do the same damn thing.   

If you had the right to shoot 2 point mule deer, but you knew it wasn’t good for the herd, would you still do it? If you had the right to pick up antlers in winter grounds where the elk were stressed, and your encroachment made it worse for them, would you do it? If you could hunt at night and get away with it would you? If you could break tribal laws to sell jerky would you? My point….. and you already know this, just because you can, is it right?  There is a f&@king reason why we should leave the elk alone this time of year, doesn’t matter what race you are. Damn

[MADMAX]

Ruh roh

[MADMAX]

 

[Buzzsaw461]

 Well said:

No longer will I bash any non natives for sneaking in early in that area, natives are allowed inside the gate to gather antlers, and harvest elk if it is within their time line. I guess this isn’t new but it’s the first I heard of it. Such BS

How do we blame the “indians”, when we the “white” people gave them that!!!!  See where I’m coming from?   Its not their fault.  Hell give me the option of hunting elk year round and I’m gonna kill some chit.  And many many many on here would do the same damn thing.   

If you had the right to shoot 2 point mule deer, but you knew it wasn’t good for the herd, would you still do it? If you had the right to pick up antlers in winter grounds where the elk were stressed, and your encroachment made it worse for them, would you do it? If you could hunt at night and get away with it would you? If you could break tribal laws to sell jerky would you? My point….. and you already know this, just because you can, is it right?  There is a f&@king reason why we should leave the elk alone this time of year, doesn’t matter what race you are. Damn

[trophyhunt]

They don't walk more than 20 feet from a road so calm down.

thank God!!

[rtspring]

No longer will I bash any non natives for sneaking in early in that area, natives are allowed inside the gate to gather antlers, and harvest elk if it is within their time line. I guess this isn’t new but it’s the first I heard of it. Such BS

How do we blame the “indians”, when we the “white” people gave them that!!!!  See where I’m coming from?   Its not their fault.  Hell give me the option of hunting elk year round and I’m gonna kill some chit.  And many many many on here would do the same damn thing.   

If you had the right to shoot 2 point mule deer, but you knew it wasn’t good for the herd, would you still do it? If you had the right to pick up antlers in winter grounds where the elk were stressed, and your encroachment made it worse for them, would you do it? If you could hunt at night and get away with it would you? If you could break tribal laws to sell jerky would you? My point….. and you already know this, just because you can, is it right?  There is a f&@king reason why we should leave the elk alone this time of year, doesn’t matter what race you are. Damn

Your “damn” right I would.  Its a dog eat dog world these days! Especially the “hunting community”.  Like I said “ we gave them those rights!!!”””  So blame the people who gave them the rights to get antlers early!   

If you could buy $1.00 a gallon gas but no one else could, would you?   Your damn right you would. 

We can play the “stress” card all we want! But if by that thinking we shouldn’t be chasing el around for 3-4 months in the fall….  Way more stress than some shed hunters. Save the, well elk are weak in the spring speech.  I don’t think thousands of elk die from shed hunters!!!!

[cem3434]

Damn Jerry, chill out as we don't need you blowing a gasket. 

We all know you're passionate about hunting and conservation, but we need to figure out how to team up (somehow) with the natives. They have the "right" to hunt, whereas we only have the "privilege" to hunt in the eyes of the law. I agree with you on doing the right thing versus what your allowed to do, but again they have the "right" to do so where we do not.

If WDFW has their way, all the elk hunting will be shutdown in that area in the next 10 years as there wont be a sustainable population to support all of the 4 legged predators. Just look at the slashing of the permits after years of overharveting, showing they have no ability to manage the herds while predator populations continue to thrive. If we can't get on the same page to fight WDFW and all of the antis, natives will be the only people still allowed to hunt in this state in the near future.

[rtspring]

No longer will I bash any non natives for sneaking in early in that area, natives are allowed inside the gate to gather antlers, and harvest elk if it is within their time line. I guess this isn’t new but it’s the first I heard of it. Such BS

How do we blame the “indians”, when we the “white” people gave them that!!!!  See where I’m coming from?   Its not their fault.  Hell give me the option of hunting elk year round and I’m gonna kill some chit.  And many many many on here would do the same damn thing.   

If you had the right to shoot 2 point mule deer, but you knew it wasn’t good for the herd, would you still do it? If you had the right to pick up antlers in winter grounds where the elk were stressed, and your encroachment made it worse for them, would you do it? If you could hunt at night and get away with it would you? If you could break tribal laws to sell jerky would you? My point….. and you already know this, just because you can, is it right?  There is a f&@king reason why we should leave the elk alone this time of year, doesn’t matter what race you are. Damn

Your “damn” right I would.  Its a dog eat dog world these days! Especially the “hunting community”.  Like I said “ we gave them those rights!!!”””  So blame the people who gave them the rights to get antlers early!   

If you could buy $1.00 a gallon gas but no one else could, would you?   Your damn right you would. 

We can play the “stress” card all we want! But if by that thinking we shouldn’t be chasing el around for 3-4 months in the fall….  Way more stress than some shed hunters. Save the, well elk are weak in the spring speech.  I don’t think thousands of elk die from shed hunters!!!!

I completely see your side!!! But sometimes look at who caused the problem not those that gained rights from the people who put the problems into law. 

Some people think we shouldn’t hunt
some people think we shouldn’t kill pregnant cow elk
Some people think we should kill predators!  But the law says we can so guess what?    WE DO IT ANYWAYS!!!

[trophyhunt]

Damn Jerry, chill out as we don't need you blowing a gasket. 

We all know you're passionate about hunting and conservation, but we need to figure out how to team up (somehow) with the natives. They have the "right" to hunt, whereas we only have the "privilege" to hunt in the eyes of the law. I agree with you on doing the right thing versus what your allowed to do, but again they have the "right" to do so where we do not.

If WDFW has their way, all the elk hunting will be shutdown in that area in the next 10 years as there wont be a sustainable population to support all of the 4 legged predators. Just look at the slashing of the permits after years of overharveting, showing they have no ability to manage the herds while predator populations continue to thrive. If we can't get on the same page to fight WDFW and all of the antis, natives will be the only people still allowed to hunt in this state in the near future.

Honest question, do you think the natives give two F’s about the resource management or if we non natives have rights to hunt ?  Why would they, they have their cake and eat it too.  I’m F’ing tired of us versus them, we are the same for GODS sake. We lose spring bear, hound hunting, baiting, and the future looks bleak for non native hunters, but, tribal get to keep living free and do
What they want for ever.  I wonder if we have a civil war against our government, who’s side will they be on? 

[Mudman]

Its not about who is deserving or what is right or what is best for the animals.   It IS about who has politcal power, who has $ for campaigns, who wins over the liberal judges, who wins public opinion, who controls the media influence?  That is not the hunter but instead the conservational native liberal voter with the $.  So he is right.  It isnt native fault for taking advantage of opportunity.   They didnt have those 40 years ago.  Much like our laws, mandates, rights infringed, taxes and elections the fault is ours as a people staring at our phones with our head in the sand ignoring the truth and following the tech media propaganda.    Honestly it is an amazing accomplishment of Native peoples from 1980 to 2022!!!  Look how far they have come!   Almost as fast as Las Vegas being built on gamblers $$.  Interesting parallel. 

[trophyhunt]

I can’t blow my gasket here, it’s too censored

[KFhunter]

Damn Jerry, chill out as we don't need you blowing a gasket. 

We all know you're passionate about hunting and conservation, but we need to figure out how to team up (somehow) with the natives. They have the "right" to hunt, whereas we only have the "privilege" to hunt in the eyes of the law. I agree with you on doing the right thing versus what your allowed to do, but again they have the "right" to do so where we do not.

If WDFW has their way, all the elk hunting will be shutdown in that area in the next 10 years as there wont be a sustainable population to support all of the 4 legged predators. Just look at the slashing of the permits after years of overharveting, showing they have no ability to manage the herds while predator populations continue to thrive. If we can't get on the same page to fight WDFW and all of the antis, natives will be the only people still allowed to hunt in this state in the near future.

Honest question, do you think the natives give two F’s about the resource management or if we non natives have rights to hunt ?  Why would they, they have their cake and eat it too.  I’m F’ing tired of us versus them, we are the same for GODS sake. We lose spring bear, hound hunting, baiting, and the future looks bleak for non native hunters, but, tribal get to keep living free and do
What they want for ever.  I wonder if we have a civil war against our government, who’s side will they be on?

They will continue to hunt, fish, trap and do all the things we no longer cannot. 


Thanks to blue voters, not them.  Our blue dem courts are very sympathetic to litigation brought by them.   


RT has this right, don't bark up the wrong tree.   

[dreamingbig]

So they used to gather antlers?  Tell me the precedent.


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