Critique My Rifle Build

[yorketransport]

If I were a betting man, I would bet that rotational energy has next to no impact on energy delivered or bullet expansion.  When bullets open, I don't recall ever seeing any evidence they were spinning, there is no bending of the petals as you would expect if they kept spinning.  The force on the petals I have seen is always perfectly linear back the direction they came from. 

The coppers I hunt with won't open below 1500 reliably, I do agree you have valid concerns there.

I didn't read every reply, did you consider some version of a bullpup?  Seems it might be easier to deal with the barrel being too short than finding a bullet that will work.

Energy may not be the best way to describe it, but expansion and penetration are impacted significantly by increasing the bullet's RPMs on impact. Some of the bullet testing I did involved shooting the same ammunition at ballistic gel from different twist barrels. The higher RPMs made lead core bullets expand more violently. Solid copper bullets which shed petals showed greater dispersion of the petal fragments and increased penetration depth while tracking in a straighter line.

[bearpaw]

Have you considered a single action rifle? A single action with a 16" barrel would probably be about the same length as a bolt action with a 12" barrel!
Custom Barrel: https://www.bullberrylegacy.com/oldcustom-encore-barrels

If you want more than one shot check out this double: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/925940239
I don't think you could put suppressors on a double though? 

[bearpaw]

With a little innovative thinking and custom work on a rifle stock blank perhaps you could mount your savage action into a stock differently, move the whole action and barrel to a more rearward modern position with the bolt action sitting in the cheek area of the stock. Thus your barrel could be cut at 16 inches and the whole rifle would still be very short. You would have to get creative on trigger placement and scope mounting because they will need to be mounted further forward from the bolt action than customary positioning.

Check out the positioning of this bolt action onto the stock and the trigger and scope positioning: https://deserttech.com/srs.php

Might be easier to just order a rifle here, you can get this in the 300 RUM and other high performance calibers: https://deserttech.com/rifle-builder.php?r=2

[bearpaw]

This rifle has a half MOA guarantee: https://deserttech.com/srs.php   

[fly-by]

Have you considered a single action rifle? A single action with a 16" barrel would probably be about the same length as a bolt action with a 12" barrel!
Custom Barrel: https://www.bullberrylegacy.com/oldcustom-encore-barrels

Or a single shot pistol with a brace.

CVA Scout Pistol
Farrow Tech Grip
Brace of your choice
Suppressor

CVA makes a few chamberings that come threaded.

14" .44 Mag and 11" .300 BO pictured here.

[bearpaw]

There are definitely some short rifle alternatives already out there.
Some other interesting topics here too: https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-shortest-sniper-rifle

[James]

These are some great ideas, thank you.

I have never shot a bullpup rifle and such. I need to find a place I can get my hands on one and see how they feel.

Those overall lengths adding a suppressor and it’s still short!

[jasnt]

Cutting edge lasers will expand at 1200 FPS.

I think the easiest answer to this is 2 rifles.  One for hunting thick timber and one for clear cuts.     

I’m not much help here. I prefer long barrels and open spaces. 

[TooTallMike]

Super late to the party but this is what I built years ago

Virgin 700 receiver.
13” 308 win 1/7 twist from x caliber
Black collar arms chassis
Sb1913 brace
Throw on bipod

Shooting 165gr CEB lazer (all copper)
Varget
2450fps.

Still has 1000ftlbs at 600 yds. Going 1650fps.

I personally wouldn’t shoot game at that distance unless conditions were PERFECT. But then I’d probably just try to get closer.

I even made an MOA subsonic using 194gr expanders by Lehigh defense.

Super fun to shoot

And hopefully you get to build one too just make sure to have Dana (dreadi) cerakote it for you.

Best of luck

Btw this is technically a pistol

[headshot5]

I didn't read every reply, but I saw savage is making a 110 pistol now. 

https://www.savagearms.com/content?p=firearms&a=product_summary&s=57797

[dreadi]

Super late to the party but this is what I built years ago

Virgin 700 receiver.
13” 308 win 1/7 twist from x caliber
Black collar arms chassis
Sb1913 brace
Throw on bipod

Shooting 165gr CEB lazer (all copper)
Varget
2450fps.

Still has 1000ftlbs at 600 yds. Going 1650fps.

I personally wouldn’t shoot game at that distance unless conditions were PERFECT. But then I’d probably just try to get closer.

I even made an MOA subsonic using 194gr expanders by Lehigh defense.

Super fun to shoot

And hopefully you get to build one too just make sure to have Dana (dredi) cerakote it for you.

Best of luck

Btw this is technically a pistol

So you can keep it loaded in the truck too!

[James]

Great stuff guys, thank you.

Mocking up some stuff right now and trying to figure out where the best tradeoff of all the variables. Trying to take a lot of the comments here to heart and revaluate and make sure I end up with an optimized solution.

[TooTallMike]

Great stuff guys, thank you.

Mocking up some stuff right now and trying to figure out where the best tradeoff of all the variables. Trying to take a lot of the comments here to heart and revaluate and make sure I end up with an optimized solution.

I saw go with whatever you want! That’s the beauty of our tools you can make it whatever you want. Just don’t put red anodized parts on it because then I will make fun of you.

😂😂😂

[dreadi]

Great stuff guys, thank you.

Mocking up some stuff right now and trying to figure out where the best tradeoff of all the variables. Trying to take a lot of the comments here to heart and revaluate and make sure I end up with an optimized solution.

Come see me about suppressor options when you’re ready.


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