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Help ID odd sound in the woods
« on: April 03, 2022, 09:07:40 PM »
Heard an odd sound in the woods the other day, kind of a loud belch that echoed through the trees.  I think it was a black bear but am not sure.  It made the sound twice, closer the second time, and I think it was directing it at me.

Both times I made some noise cracking dry twigs as I headed to a calling stand. 

The first time, I accidentally cracked some dry twigs and within less than a minute the first belch sounded from a few hundred yards away.   

Two minutes later I was 75 yards farther and brushed through some alders that were bent down across the old road.    Immediately the belch/bawl came at me again, this time from around a bend only 100 yards up the road. 

It seemed to be an interrogatory sound, asking, “Who or what are you who is breaking brush over there?”   I considered calling back immediately with a hand call, but decided to set up my lion stand and see if the critter would come to that.  I heard a few faint sounds in the first five minutes, then nothing for the rest of the hour. 

We’ve heard black bears make some weird sounds in spring, likely mating sounds, though never this particular sound.  It is a bit early but IME males of every species start looking and calling well before the females get interested.  A beef cow could make this sound, as could elk, probably deer, probably coyote and I’m sure a bear or cougar could make it.

Guesses and educated guesses as to ID welcome. 

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Re: Help ID odd sound in the woods
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2022, 09:17:46 PM »
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Re: Help ID odd sound in the woods
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2022, 09:35:11 PM »
I've heard whitetails make some very loud burping like noises, grunts I guess, in the fall only (one about 5 seconds before he died).  Never any other part of the year though.  I have also heard bears make a groaning type sound.  I doubt there are any hippos or alligators around.
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Re: Help ID odd sound in the woods
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2022, 11:47:49 PM »
I've heard that porcupines make a lot of human like sounds, haven't heard or seen any around but several neighbors say they are everywhere this year.

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Re: Help ID odd sound in the woods
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2022, 12:16:53 AM »
any moose around?

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Re: Help ID odd sound in the woods
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2022, 12:18:14 AM »
Wasn't a sparrow hawk, was it?  They make a sound similar to belching on their dives.
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Re: Help ID odd sound in the woods
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2022, 08:10:29 AM »
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Re: Help ID odd sound in the woods
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2022, 08:14:37 AM »
Elk barking?

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Re: Help ID odd sound in the woods
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2022, 09:09:23 AM »
Elk barking?

It was considerably different from any elk bark I've heard, and I don't think there are any elk in the area where I was.  Possible but very unlikely and I don't think it was elk.  Never have seen an elk nor elk track in that drainage.

Was not the swoop of a hawk or bird, though not a bad guess from someone who only had my verbal description. Quite different.  Made by vocal cords. 

I hadn't even considered moose, but (other than a steer bawl) the sound is closest to a bull moose doing that brief, loud grunt/bark challenge they do.  Northern Olympic Peninsula, moose extremely unlikely, almost equally unlikely to be a cow brute.

My first guess would be cougar, if my calling sounds had started.  But this was either random or more likely, a response to the brush crackling sounds I was making.   That context makes me think it was an amorous bear looking for a mate.  Steve Rainshadow knows more about cougar sounds.  Do they query the sound of something moving in the woods near them?  I heard a large footed cougar make a rapidly repeating cha-cha-cha sound in response to cougar vocals on a calling stand one time.  That one sounded like a baritone chipmunk and each of the "cha" bits was a bark somewhat like what I heard the other day. 

Curious here but will likely never know for sure what made the sound.


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Re: Help ID odd sound in the woods
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2022, 09:29:24 AM »
I drew number 74 of the 75 tags for the first moose hunt in NH in 80 years back around 1989 before I moved here. My area was along the Kancamagus highway. I bought a cassette tape of a Canuck doing moose calling and learned it pretty well. Off to scout two weeks before the season, I draped a couple of cameras around my neck and stopped in at the nearest ranger station to my area and asked if they could point me in the direction of a nice bull so I could take some pictures. They directed me to a small lake down the road. I got there and did a few cow calls, waited, did a few more. No sign of a moose. I drove a couple more miles down the road and found a hiking trail. I went down the trail doing my cow moose calls and nothing. On the way out as I was doing the calls, I kept hearing these bull frogs doing a low croak, but still no moose. Back to the pond and around to the back of it. There was a tall boulder that I scrambled up and started cow calling again. After a very short while, I started hearing breaking branches and could see a large bull coming toward me...croaking like a bull frog as he walked! I had been shadowed down that other trail by a bull moose. That may be what you heard in the woods.

My partner and I came back for the three-day season two weeks later. It poured rain like I'd never seen before. Although I though I had that bull tied to a tree, we never saw hide nor hair of him or any other moose the whole time. We were one of only 16 who didn't tag out that year. It was a huge disappointment but a great experience.
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Re: Help ID odd sound in the woods
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2022, 09:56:19 AM »

 Was not the swoop of a hawk or bird, though not a bad guess from someone who only had my verbal description. Quite different.  Made by vocal cords.

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I guess similar to a bull frog
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Re: Help ID odd sound in the woods
« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2022, 07:39:54 PM »
Pianoman, loved the moose story.  The first three moose I heard after moving to British Columbia in the 70’s, I mistook for other animals.  Funny and embarrassing both, and I missed out on one easy bull if I’d only known it was a moose.  The sound last week was a pretty typical bull moose challenge, and if I'd been on the Thompson Plateau or in the Chilcotin I would call it a moose without puzzling further...  but not likely between Sequim and Port Angeles.   :dunno:

Cylvertip, growing up in Eastern WA we called nighthawks bullbats.  Loved that distinctive soft roar of their swoop in the dark dusk of an evening.


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Re: Help ID odd sound in the woods
« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2022, 08:49:48 AM »
Will add that several long time woodsmen in this area think that the sound was made by a cougar.  Doggone, wish I had stepped behind a bush and given it a Rainshadow juvenile cougar whistle to see if it would reply or come closer.  It was definitely coming my way and the easiest path was on the old road. Might have made for an easy shot.  I had a Rainshadow cougar whistle call around my neck, plus an open reed "do anything" predator call.




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Re: Help ID odd sound in the woods
« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2022, 11:10:43 AM »
 :dunno:  Deer or Raven.
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Re: Help ID odd sound in the woods
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2022, 06:53:22 PM »
Embarrassingly enough, I spent a few minutes last Saturday trying to find what ever it was that was chirping at me from a stand of alders and hemlocks.  It sounded a lot like a bird of some sort giving me a rather rhythmic scolding.  I finally figured out that it was a branch about 10' off the ground rubbing on another tree that the breeze would move around; EGAD!
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Re: Help ID odd sound in the woods
« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2022, 08:48:59 PM »
Have you tried Google and YouTube to see if there's a video with the same or similar sound? Impossible for us to tell without hearing it.

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Re: Help ID odd sound in the woods
« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2022, 10:55:04 PM »
Tried to find the sound online and on Youtube, but no luck.  Listened to a bunch of sounds!

Listening to animals in the wild has convinced me that many species make a much wider variety of sounds than we know about.  We are perhaps famiiar with their main mating sounds etc. but over my years afield, many have surprised me by making sounds I had no idea that kind of critter could make. 

Heard a cougar sound like an owl, a black bear moan and whine and wail much like a whale song, coyotes make so many sounds I can't keep track, lynx that sound like a cow moose in heat, and then like a mule deer doe snorting at me.  Am still curious about the recent belch in the woods, and about a few others...


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Re: Help ID odd sound in the woods
« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2022, 06:49:29 AM »
Chupacabra  :yike:

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Re: Help ID odd sound in the woods
« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2022, 08:19:57 AM »
Had a wolf make a pretty strange sound when I was close in heavy timber.  Seemed like he was trying to flush me out for the chase. 
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Re: Help ID odd sound in the woods
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Re: Help ID odd sound in the woods
« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2022, 08:41:24 AM »
Crows are very active right now. And they have many unique vocalizations. I'm guessing crow or raven.

 


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