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Offline BaseballStud20

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What did I do wrong?
« on: May 11, 2009, 06:15:16 PM »
So I located a bird this morning about 9 am and he was probably about 200 yards away. I worked my way down a little closer and he was sounding off like every ten seconds. I set up on a down slope and started making some soft calls. He replied immediately every time and started to sound like he was coming in pretty fast. I think he was about 70 yards away the last time I heard him and every time I called after that I heard nothing. I figured he was coming in silently so I just quit calling and decided to wait. I kept hearing this weird noise that sounded like a deep whooping sound, it started out slowly and then got faster and faster, kinda like an old generator starting up. I had no idea what it was and then it started to rain. I got impatient and it was only about 30 minutes since I heard him last. I decided to work my way out slowly and call a few times as I went. I got absolutely nothing from that so went to a different area. My question is...what should I have done differently in that situation? I kept second guessing myself and really did not know what to do.

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Re: What did I do wrong?
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2009, 06:22:39 PM »
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I kept hearing this weird noise that sounded like a deep whooping sound, it started out slowly and then got faster and faster, kinda like an old generator starting up

  That was grouse you heard...  thier in thier breading season also
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Re: What did I do wrong?
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2009, 06:24:27 PM »
I was wondering if that's what it was. Have never heard anything like that before though. Thanks Wayne.

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Re: What did I do wrong?
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2009, 07:11:40 PM »
My opinion in the way the season is right now, one if anything you did wrong you had him gobble too much and another hen you could not hear interceptd him. The hens where I'm hunting have not been setting the nest so every time they hear a gobble they run to it. Yesterday I had a big tom that hung up at 150 yards and would gobble and strut, th hens would come to him and about an hour after that they slowly dissapeared on him. SO he'd gobble and they'd pop right back into his view. Give thm another week and a lot of these hens should be on the nest for good.....let's hope
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Re: What did I do wrong?
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2009, 07:48:25 PM »
It is hard to tell what you did wrong if you did wrong. with it being this late in the season he could have played this game many times and has been called to and sometime when you get fired up and they are to you might have called to much to where he hung up and figured if you were that intense that you should just come to him.

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Re: What did I do wrong?
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2009, 08:07:08 PM »
Yeah, thinking about it now I probably did call too much. Dang it.

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Re: What did I do wrong?
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2009, 08:25:50 PM »
Like Onehorn has any room to talk about calling too much, hahahaha, inside joke. But could be lots of things. When you think you think you are calling just enough, call less...most of the time. If he was gobbling every ten seconds, were you firing back with hen calls every ten seconds? If he is gobbling that much to begin with, shut up and give him the silent treatment, maybe earlier than you did. But who knows? Gobblers are irrational.

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Re: What did I do wrong?
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2009, 08:40:01 PM »
After they answer me like that I call maybe once every 10-15 minutes, if he cuts me off while I'm calling I shut up.  You get them so fired up they figure hey she wants me she can come and get me...like she would if she was a real hen.  Wait a while....45 minutes or more.  Then slip out backwards circle around and try it from a different location.  They will rarely cross creeks, fences, heavy brush, etc...  He could have been hung up and not able to cover the last yardage.  Coyote or bobcat or lion made have tried to put a sneak on him, lots of things you have no control over could have happened.  Go right back after him, you know where he's hanging out, you got half the battle won.  This is the FUN part, doing battle with one.

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Re: What did I do wrong?
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2009, 09:09:17 PM »
Yeah, hopefully I can get on to another bird tomorrow that will just as vocal as that one. And this time I wont screw it up. I'll try to call less and see if that get's him to come in.

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Re: What did I do wrong?
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2009, 09:31:35 PM »
Hey if you were up in the area I told you about, make sure you cover your back with a nice sized tree.  A few years ago I was up there calling and got done, stood up and there was a very respectable tom lion crouched down about 30 feet away.  Once I stood up he stood up and just stood there for about 30 to 45 seconds.  Never was worried, turned and walked away.  I was blown away at how quiet he was.  Watching him walk away he never so much as rustled a leaf.  I can only imagine what would have happened had I kept on calling.   :yike:
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Re: What did I do wrong?
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2009, 10:22:10 PM »
Yeah I was up in that area. Did not see any sign of lions but ill be careful next time im up there.

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Re: What did I do wrong?
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2009, 01:29:39 PM »
I called in two lions in a turkey setup 2 years ago and I was surprised how loud they were. You could hear them walking 80 yards away. But I was also surprised how once we stood up they weren't afraid at all. Actually, they put more of a sneak on us once they figured out what were were rather than when we were "turkeys."
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Re: What did I do wrong?
« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2009, 02:55:07 PM »
Agree with the other replies:
1) We all tend to call way too much even though we don't need to ... call only as much as you need too (seldom) and let his natural curiosity and sex drive work against him.  My general rule is as he comes closer to call tons softer and a lot less often.
2) Highly propable that a hen intercepted him as TT mentioned. Or might have been some of his buddies.
3) With your first calls he had you pegged to within 1 sq ft of area.  It's also not natural for him to continually hear calling coming from that same square foot or tree since turkeys do move around a lot.  Did you try "throwing you voice" at all?  Did you try "raking the leaves" or a hat "wing flap" for realism? You also mentioned you moved ... was there a chance he spotted you?
4) Just the nature of the beast ...  :bash:

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Re: What did I do wrong?
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2009, 06:38:38 AM »
that pretty much sums up my whole weekend they did that the hole time we would locate call try and cut the distance an they would stop answering man it was frustrating. but in colville the weather would change every hour and it was clear skys at night with a full moon and I think that really screwed them up. but we saw a ton of birds just to far away to get a shot.
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Re: What did I do wrong?
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2009, 07:35:11 AM »
You'll learn that sometimes everything right ends up being wrong. Persistance and practice is about all you can get right with those things. Keep at it, it will work out for ya.

 


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