2022 Hunting proposals adopted by the commission

[time2hunt]

What a crook of monkey !!


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[Pinetar]

I’m going to apologize in advance. *censored* our governor and *censored* our commission!!! I’m already in for this year but it will be my last in this state!

      I will take that bet

[Houndhunter]

What we need is a Blue Dog to run, it's the only hope in this state I'm afraid.  After the Rossi election it became pretty clear that there is little chance of anyone with an R next to their name winning.

The only other person that could fit that bill is past state senator Dean Takko,  but I'm less versed  in positions outside of hunting.  I do know that Blake was well respected by the republicans on the natural resources comittie.

Dean Takko would be a great candidate as far as democrats go. He's a big time hunter.

[TriggerMike]

So they're now saying the Yakima elk herd is at or slightly above objective 

They increased cow tags in the Yakima units but decreased the bull permits. What could possibly be responsible for bull numbers to decrease while cows increase 

[kirkl]

So they're now saying the Yakima elk herd is at or slightly above objective 

They increased cow tags in the Yakima units but decreased the bull permits. What could possibly be responsible for bull numbers to decrease while cows increase 

The two or three years of only giving out 20 cow tags brought the herd back to objective lol. He did say they did a good flyover in february so maybe they havent done that in a couple years prior? who knows.

[bobcat]

I wonder if the jerky businesses are doing well?

[dreamingbig]

So they're now saying the Yakima elk herd is at or slightly above objective 

They increased cow tags in the Yakima units but decreased the bull permits. What could possibly be responsible for bull numbers to decrease while cows increase 

Shooting bulls is “trophy hunting”!   Duh! 

But to be serious, it makes no sense.  The 25% reduction in quality archery elk tags was not addressed at the meetings.  Not sure what WDFW is driving at other than perhaps knowing a lot of bulls are being taken by other user groups so hoping to get bull to cow ratio back inline?


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[elkchaser54]

They cut doe and buck tags in the blue mountains even though the white tail populations aren't hurting in any way. It makes no sense

[Stein]

So they're now saying the Yakima elk herd is at or slightly above objective 

They increased cow tags in the Yakima units but decreased the bull permits. What could possibly be responsible for bull numbers to decrease while cows increase 

Shooting bulls is “trophy hunting”!   Duh! 

But to be serious, it makes no sense.  The 25% reduction in quality archery elk tags was not addressed at the meetings.  Not sure what WDFW is driving at other than perhaps knowing a lot of bulls are being taken by other user groups so hoping to get bull to cow ratio back inline?


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Has to be.  Like everything WDFW, there is as little transparency as possible.  I can't think of any reason to do this other than the bull/cow ratio is incredibly bad.

[Tbar]

So they're now saying the Yakima elk herd is at or slightly above objective 

They increased cow tags in the Yakima units but decreased the bull permits. What could possibly be responsible for bull numbers to decrease while cows increase 

Shooting bulls is “trophy hunting”!   Duh! 

But to be serious, it makes no sense.  The 25% reduction in quality archery elk tags was not addressed at the meetings.  Not sure what WDFW is driving at other than perhaps knowing a lot of bulls are being taken by other user groups so hoping to get bull to cow ratio back inline?


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Do you have any info or just throwing out a theory? What are the ratios? Is there a concern? Are they below 12?

[Stein]

WDFW survey in 2021 had the bull ratio at 25% in the Blues.  Like many things WDFW, we get to guess at the motives as transparency isn't warranted.

[Tbar]

So they're now saying the Yakima elk herd is at or slightly above objective 

They increased cow tags in the Yakima units but decreased the bull permits. What could possibly be responsible for bull numbers to decrease while cows increase 

Shooting bulls is “trophy hunting”!   Duh! 

But to be serious, it makes no sense.  The 25% reduction in quality archery elk tags was not addressed at the meetings.  Not sure what WDFW is driving at other than perhaps knowing a lot of bulls are being taken by other user groups so hoping to get bull to cow ratio back inline?


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Has to be.  I can't think of any reason to do this other than the bull/cow ratio is incredibly bad.

Without knowing more than I witnessed at the feed lots, I see zero representation for this move.    This is a reduction coming off of a 90+% reduction!  It screams naive or a lack of due diligence.  With it being above objective ( ) there was probably some flexibility to have a considerable bump in bull hunt but without clarity it leaves users guessing.  The entirety does not sit well.

[Tbar]

WDFW survey in 2021 had the bull ratio at 25% in the Blues.  Like many things WDFW, we get to guess at the motives as transparency isn't warranted.

All of the measurables in the blues signify a collapse.  The commission has shown both a willingness and seeming desire for this.

[dreamingbig]

So they're now saying the Yakima elk herd is at or slightly above objective 

They increased cow tags in the Yakima units but decreased the bull permits. What could possibly be responsible for bull numbers to decrease while cows increase 

Shooting bulls is “trophy hunting”!   Duh! 

But to be serious, it makes no sense.  The 25% reduction in quality archery elk tags was not addressed at the meetings.  Not sure what WDFW is driving at other than perhaps knowing a lot of bulls are being taken by other user groups so hoping to get bull to cow ratio back inline?


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Has to be.  I can't think of any reason to do this other than the bull/cow ratio is incredibly bad.

Without knowing more than I witnessed at the feed lots, I see zero representation for this move.    This is a reduction coming off of a 90+% reduction!  It screams naive or a lack of due diligence.  With it being above objective ( ) there was probably some flexibility to have a considerable bump in bull hunt but without clarity it leaves users guessing.  The entirety does not sit well.

I don’t think it was justified.  I have zero rationale for why they did it…. My guess was low bull to cow ratio.  Why else would they slash bull permits when herd is approaching objective again?


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[Stein]

WDFW survey in 2021 had the bull ratio at 25% in the Blues.  Like many things WDFW, we get to guess at the motives as transparency isn't warranted.

All of the measurables in the blues signify a collapse.  The commission has shown both a willingness and seeming desire for this.

Hard to argue that, numbers crashing and they increase cow tags.  Probably lots of local politics at play, but again, we get to guess.  Their own total abundance numbers show fewer elk than at least back to 2005.  Yearly calf numbers crashing too.