Trespassing?

[hunter399]

Good thing I got liability too cuz Smossy is clearly tripping already!  You called me boy! I'm a man! He, him, sir, master, gentleman, and the like...

Karl, the brown trout are what your looking for. Not crappie, the browns during hunting season! Massive Kype's and crazy red bellies!

Whoa I all most thought you was gonna say KING 👑
There can only be one king to rule them all.
His name is inslee
 

[Smossy]

Good thing I got liability too cuz Smossy is clearly tripping already!  You called me boy! I'm a man! He, him, sir, master, gentleman, and the like...

Karl, the brown trout are what your looking for. Not crappie, the browns during hunting season! Massive Kype's and crazy red bellies!

Whoa I all most thought you was gonna say KING 👑
There can only be one king to rule them all.
His name is inslee
 

Tripping already? I been "tripping" for many years.

[Karl Blanchard]

Good thing I got liability too cuz Smossy is clearly tripping already!  You called me boy! I'm a man! He, him, sir, master, gentleman, and the like...

Karl, the brown trout are what your looking for. Not crappie, the browns during hunting season! Massive Kype's and crazy red bellies!

brown trout on private? Is this the trespassing thread or the pooping outside thread 

[jackelope]

I was gonna trespass on LD's land but I hear the crappie fishing isn't worth a crap 

And I don't dare trespass on Rainiers dirt as all the giant elk sheds are a tripping hazard. He told me I'm not allowed in the hospital pre season this year so guess I'll stick to public pavement😁

Fixed it for you....to keep you safe.

[Smossy]

I was gonna trespass on LD's land but I hear the crappie fishing isn't worth a crap 

And I don't dare trespass on Rainiers dirt as all the giant elk sheds are a tripping hazard. He told me I'm not allowed in the hospital pre season this year so guess I'll stick to public pavement😁

Fixed it for you....to keep you safe.

Self admittance to favoritism. Forums are corrupt.

[Karl Blanchard]

I was gonna trespass on LD's land but I hear the crappie fishing isn't worth a crap 

And I don't dare trespass on Rainiers dirt as all the giant elk sheds are a tripping hazard. He told me I'm not allowed in the hospital pre season this year so guess I'll stick to public pavement😁

Fixed it for you....to keep you safe.

still probably won't help 

[LDennis24]

Aah, pavement will wreck your knees and ankles. Especially if your tripping either on a boneless brown or a crappie left in the road! That's acceptable behavior in Seattle, but only if it's when being used as bait. And remember, bait piles must be separated, so go to another block each time you leave a bait pile. King Inslee will send his goons if you leave too much corn in your bait pile also.

[Pinetar]

I was gonna trespass on LD's land but I hear the crappie fishing isn't worth a crap 

And I don't dare trespass on Rainiers dirt as all the giant elk sheds are a tripping hazard. He told me I'm not allowed in the hospital pre season this year so guess I'll stick to public pavement😁

Fixed it for you....to keep you safe.

still probably won't help 

Whoa Karl, Crappie fishing over Turkey hunting with them kiddos? Get you priorities straight before one of these trespassers blasts them birds. Fishing is for when there is nothing to shoot.

[Rainier10]

One of things we go over teaching hunters education is the number one complaint of private land owners is trespassing.

[LDennis24]

Back to the topic of discussion. Karl, if you want to fish Rock Lake and don't wanna bring the boat I can get you into the beach. No crappie though, just excellent trout fishing. PM me. Folks who ask  are usually granted access. Last year everyone was cut off due to littering. Yet people still came on shore from their boats and started fires. In a hot dry summer, then throw trash in the fire pit and think that's acceptable. Kids love s'mores that taste like burnt trash!

[509]

So let me see if I have this straight.  I pay a ton of money for a bunch of land.  I then pay a ton of money every year after that in property taxes for the right to continue to own my land.  On top of that I have to provide the documentation to everyone that wants access through my land that they don't have access when there is a sign from DNR that says "authorized vehicles only beyond this sign"?......................

IF what you say is TRUE.......

GET RID OF THE DNR SIGN!!!

IF what you say is true.  DNR has NO JURISDICTION OVER YOUR LAND.  Do not let them post that sign.

Call them and have it removed. 

Put up your OWN SIGN...NO LEGAL ACCESS to public land beyond this point.  Then add a PRIVATE ROAD and NO TRESSPASSING sign underneath it.



Why is there a sign from DNR that says "authorized vehicles only beyond this sign"

That language says "authorized vehicles".  That means VEHICLES, not restrictions on public access. 

The Forest Service, BLM and other agencies use the SAME LANGUAGE when the road is closed to vehicles, BUT OPEN TO PUBLIC USE.

IF there is NO PUBLIC EASEMENT on your property.  Get rid of that SIGN!!!!  Why is it posted in the first place??

That is why JOE BLOW is going across your property.  If I saw that sign, I would walk right up that road particularly if I knew that there was DNR beyond your property.

And you would be wrong and be the exact kind of person that I wouldn't want near my property. This is just like the corner crossing debate. Everyone feels so entitled to anything labeled public or government owned and you don't know what your talking about. So you go in anyways and cause a problem for the landowner to deal with and then the LEO that shows up can't hardly do anything cuz people play stupid and the law as it's written says "knowingly" entering private property. So you say "Oh I didn't know"  so the matter gets written off as unimportant and nothing happens. Then it happens over and over and over cuz people THINK they can do whatever they want and don't respect private property. You just want to spout off about being an important American citizen with tax dollars paying for the right to disrespect people and their property. Rainier10 is talking about people like you just driving in and acting like they can do whatever they want. It would be great if everyone walked in past the gate instead of destroying it. All of you who pop off about public land entitlement don't have a clue.

Oh, I have a clue. 

As a professional forester for 50 years with both private industry and government I have seen private owners post PUBLIC LAND.  Steal PUBLIC TIMBER.  AND ALL THAT TIME COMPLAIN ABOUT THE PUBLIC.  It works both ways.

Yes, the PUBLIC is  "entitled to anything labeled public or government owned" particularly public land.

Give me a break.

I have had landowners try to kick me off public land.  I calmly dial 911 and ask a deputy sheriff to show up.  Guess what, at the point every landowner said, "yes, that is public land, but YOU should still ask permission to since I live here".  I did help knowing the Federal, state and local law enforcement personnel.

Kicking the public off public land is a THEFT of government property.  It is that simple.   

BTW... I reviewed and checked the legal easements to the Wenatchee River that the Game Department bought years ago.  There are almost a hundred of them.  Some of those easements cost hunters and fisherman THOUSANDS of DOLLARS in license fees.  Now, the NEW landowners want the easements terminated at NO COST to them!!!

Sounds like the public has a legal easement across your property and you don't like it.  Fine, you never should have given DNR a public easement across your property.  Your lucky they agreed to limit vehicle traffic.

The public is getting ripped off by private landowners left and right in Washington and other states.  Time to end it.

DNR has an easement and it is very specific who can use it, what it can be used for and what they have to do every time that they do use it. I can guarantee you the public does not have an easement to mine.  If they did the county wouldn't be seeking federal funds to purchase an easement from me and improve the road for public use.  The county is looking to do it because there is no easement and DNR doesn't want to modify their easement because they don't care about the public accessing the land from my side of the property, like I said before there are multiple legal public easements to the exact same spot, no need to cross my property to get there.  BPA had to pay in 1990 for an easement to access their powerlines that had been there forever because they never had a legal easement.

IF what you say is TRUE.......

GET RID OF THE DNR SIGN!!!

IF what you say is true.  DNR has NO JURISDICTION OVER YOUR LAND.  Do not let them post that sign.

Call them and have it removed. 

Put up your OWN SIGN...NO LEGAL ACCESS to public land beyond this point.  Then add a PRIVATE ROAD and NO TRESSPASSING sign underneath it.

Add your name to the sign.  If your stealing public access to their land, it wil simplify the process of contacting the authoritities.

[Rainier10]

So you think it would be in my best interest to rip down an official Sign from property that is not mine? I appreciate the advice but I think I will refrain from following your directions.

Fyi on my property I do have signage with my contact information on it.

I don’t make a habit of posting land that I don’t own and I don’t rip signage down from adjacent property that is managed by others.

Maybe your advice would apply to other property elsewhere, I really have no idea. What I do know is it doesn’t apply to my property and my easements with DNR and BPA. That’s not just my personal opinion it is the opinion of my lawyers and the lawyers for the county.

[Karl Blanchard]

Found this one today. Think you should take this idea and run with it Rainier 

[Rainier10]

That’s a great sign Karl.

On a serious note, I have what I consider great signage covering myself. Hunter orange 12x12 signs about access, hunting,fishing, trappping…….by written permission only. My signs are posted so from any sign if you look right or left you can see the next sign. Typically 60-80 yards apart. It looks hideous but even at that I have had people say “ I didn’t see the sign where I parked and crossed the fence.”

What never entered my mind was the 12x12 square with “NOTICE” across it makes a perfect target for hunters to target practice on midday of rifle season.

It is so frustrating the lack of respect some, not you Karl, have for property that isn’t theirs. It is even more frustrating to hear what I should do as a private land owner to inform others that it is private and prove that there is no easement or that what I’m saying is TRUE.

[Dan-o]

That’s a great sign Karl.

On a serious note, I have what I consider great signage covering myself. Hunter orange 12x12 signs about access, hunting,fishing, trappping…….by written permission only. My signs are posted so from any sign if you look right or left you can see the next sign. Typically 60-80 yards apart. It looks hideous but even at that I have had people say “ I didn’t see the sign where I parked and crossed the fence.”

What never entered my mind was the 12x12 square with “NOTICE” across it makes a perfect target for hunters to target practice on midday of rifle season.

It is so frustrating the lack of respect some, not you Karl, have for property that isn’t theirs. It is even more frustrating to hear what I should do as a private land owner to inform others that it is private and prove that there is no easement or that what I’m saying is TRUE.

What makes you think Karl hasn't tried to hit your 12 X 12 signs?
 

I jest Mr. B.   

On a serious note, you've clearly gone above and beyond in taking care of your land, including how you've posted it...
The abuse has to be infuriating.