Hydro-Dip (Camo Process)

[huntnphool]

I had a great conversation with Adam at http://www.hydro-dip.com/index.htm it sounds like they are very resonable for price and try to maintain a 10-14 day turn around time. Right now they are getting about $125.00 for a rifle stock and $450.00 for an entire rifle, barrel, action, trigger, stock, rings and scope. He says once this is done, rust on the outside, "Fagetabout It"

  These prices are for any of the typical camo patterns too, even the ones royalties have to be paid to like Realtree, Mossyoak, Kings etc.

  I told him about the site and he was excited enough to become a sponsor, I will be getting back with him on that.

  They are doing Brownings repair work right now and just got a contract to do Kimber as well as several others. He says they are still small enough to do retail jobs, single piece, and could accomodate pretty much anyones needs on the site.

  There is a shop min. price of $100.00 and most jobs are charged at a rate of $.75/sq." my deer skull that I want done would be about $75.00 but with the min. it will cost me $100.00. I am going to pick up a replica skull from Bucklucky that is notched out for a skull plate, like a dumb ass I generally cut them off rather than do euro's , I am then going to glass the plate to the replica skull, smooth the edges and send it to them to be camo dipped. I will take pics of the process as I go and post them for peeps to do the work themselves.

  Anyhow, I am excited to have these guys want to become sponsors and can't wait to see some of the jobs people get them to do.

Here is a pic of a AR they did.

[coop2424]

That is really resonable for pricing.  Please make sure to post pictures of the skull you get dipped I am thinking I want to do that to one I just want to see how it turns out.

[bowhunterforever]

Looks like they do some good work cause the AR looks awsome. What did they charge for the AR and clip?

[rougheye]

thats a great idea    cant wait to see it

[jackelope]

Looks like they do some good work cause the AR looks awsome. What did they charge for the AR and clip?

pretty sure phool lifted that pic off of their site. i don't think thats his gun.

[Huntbear]

Looks like they do awesome work.  How durable is it for us "wetsiders" for rifles and handguns?

[huntnphool]

Looks like they do awesome work.  How durable is it for us "wetsiders" for rifles and handguns?

 As I posted its ideal for wetsiders, once its done rust issues are almost non existant, at least on the outside. Helps reduce scratches and rubs in the bushes also.

Looks like they do some good work cause the AR looks awsome.  What did they charge for the AR and clip?

 The pic is from their site but Adam told me it was $450.00. Here is a handgun they did Bear.

[WonkyWapiti]

I just checked out the website and they look like they do some really nice work.

[ivarhusa]

Ah, but a camo rifle should be shown against a camo background...



My Savage Model 10.  Yeah, the ammo sleeve kinda gives it away.

Ivar

[huntnphool]

another picture

[huntnphool]

and a couple stocks done by them.

[Huntbear]

I guess i meant how well does it hold up for us that are brush busters.  I wear the finish on my stocks where it rubs on my handgun, or pack, or just on brush.  Not worried about rust, I fix that myself.  I just want a great finish that will hold up to my abuse. lol

[jackelope]

i wouldn't mind getting a stock done, but for  a little more money you could buy an upgraded stock in whatever camo pattern or color you want from a place like bell and carlson. they do some cool work for sure....and if i were interested in a whole gun or something other than a stock, i'd be interested for sure.

[huntnphool]

I guess i meant how well does it hold up for us that are brush busters.  I wear the finish on my stocks where it rubs on my handgun, or pack, or just on brush.

 I asked him about that and he said its very hard and durable, not just paint.

[Huntbear]

well if he becomes a sponsor, I may have to get him to do a stock or two.  My brother needs his redone and his birthday is coming up...  I want mine to change.. plain black is boring.

[washingtonmuley]

$450 for an entire gun sounds pricey to me. Nice work though.

[huntnphool]

$450 for an entire gun sounds pricey to me. Nice work though.

 It actually sounded pretty good to me, I expected it to be a little higher.

[PacificNWhunter]

Very cool Phool. I can't wait to see your skull get finished.

[Hillbilly270]

where are these guys located?  $450 seems pretty high to me as well.
someone else had posted these guys on here before but i think the process is the same and they are in washington and the price is way cheaper
http://www.northwesthydroprint.com/

[huntnphool]

where are these guys located?  $450 seems pretty high to me as well.

That was my bad, I should have been more clear. The $450 was for the AR-15 with all the little parts. It takes approx. 14 dips to get the finished product on the AR's is why. Adam said most rifle barrel and actions are about $300.00.

the process is the same and they are in washington and the price is way cheaper

The process is very similar but I found the quality at Hydro-Dip to be top notch. Although they are not in Washington, (Idaho), my parts need to be shipped either way so location means little to me. Hydro-Dip trys to keep their turn around time at 10-14 days, I have found other locations are a little longer. The other determining factor for me was the patterns, Hydro-Dip has the camo patterns that I want, most of the other places I checked out did not offer them because of additional royalties.

Anyway I hope that clears up the average rifle cost issue, I thought posting the pic made it clear what I was talking about but I read my post and see it was very vague.

[huntnphool]

Looks like Adam signed up as "HydroDip"  I will get him to get on here and introduce himself and answer some of your questions.

[littlebuf]

thats pretty sweet, does he do trucks 

[HydroDip]

Hello Everyone,
My name is Adam Minic. I am the G.M. for Hydro-Dip located in Meridian Idaho. Thank you HuntNPhool for the very kind words!

I wanted to give everyone a little backround on the Hydro-Dip boys journey...  Hydro-Dip is owned by Scott and Todd Springer. I myself run the day to day operations of the business as the G.M.. We opened our doors to the public January 2008. Most of our success as a company was identifying where our coatings are best served. Opening a business of this level in a down economy has really given us perspective. We have been blessed to work with well over 30 fortune 500 companies in the last year. Aerospace technology has been a key area of focus for our business. We are ISO 9000 compliant and have full tracking and traceability standards that are at the highest levels due to the rigorous demands of the Aerospace industry. Our philosophy was to incorperate these demands into all facets of our retail business. We originally opened the company to offer coatings to mainly sportsmen. As avid coyote, deer, and elk hunters we needed a way to coat our guns the right way. We quickly realized there was not enough work in the nation to support a business on coating firearms alone. Naturally Aerospace and executive leer jets are a great fit as many production cycles are based on 15-30 year cycles and we can wrap contours better than aluminum core veneers that they currently use. Our coatings are lightweight, durable, and enhance the value of the printed item considerably in some cases. We also custom match many of the world's existing veneers which is a dream come true for designers.

Whether it comes to our faith, family, business, hunting, fishing, etc.. we give it everything we have. We all contribute our strengths to achieve success as a team. Scott designed our entire website, and is in charge of all photography, search placement (#1 on google!!! woohooo). Todd is the numbers guy who pitched this concept hard enough to get us all on board on levels unimaginable. He is also known around the shop as master dipper (mathmateical whiz, and our inhouse engineer). How many shops in the country can you purchase dipping done by the owner of the company? My backround is in sales, marketing, detailing, color matching, and upper management. It has taken countless hours to become master decorators and our shop has three on staff. Needless to say we have a top notch team and you can see from our website we take alot of pride in our coatings. We are proud of what we have accomplished as a company.

If you have some time please check out our website. http://www.hydro-dip.com

My contact details in case anyone wants more info...

(Please do not contact me on how to become a dipper, I get at least 5 people a day with that request and it is a million times more than anyone believes it to be. If you want to become a competitor please don't bother asking me for info. It's funny because I don't think anyone calls Chevrolet and asks how do I become an auto manufacturer. People have the misconception that you take a item dip it in a tank and thats it. For more info on some of our processing procedures visit our processing page for perspective: http://www.hydro-dip.com/process.htm I just had to mention this because this is not a business you set up in a garage and just dip)

Thank you.


Adam Minic
adam@hydro-dip.com
208-288-1008

[huntnphool]

Great stuff Adam, welcome to the site

[HydroDip]

thats pretty sweet, does he do trucks 

Yes, we do truck accessories. Hydro-Dip does camo wheels for Les Schwab tire center in 4 western states. We also dip bug shields, fender flares, side mirrors, grills, bumpers, etc...

Just email me personally for pricing:
adam@hydro-dip.com

Thanks,
Adam Minic
Hydro-Dip

[Huntbear]

Welcome to the site.  I must say your work is impressive, and you will eventually be doing some work for me.

[HydroDip]

Welcome to the site.  I must say your work is impressive, and you will eventually be doing some work for me.

HuntBear--  Thank you! I am looking foward to working with you. Just let me know if you have any questions whatsoever.

Adam Minic
Hydro-Dip

[littlebuf]

this stuff is really cool man, ive got a hk p2000 i may need to send your way, its my daily carry and some crazy camo pattern would sure be cool

[Huntbear]

Welcome to the site.  I must say your work is impressive, and you will eventually be doing some work for me.

HuntBear--  Thank you! I am looking foward to working with you. Just let me know if you have any questions whatsoever.

Adam Minic
Hydro-Dip

I do have a question on durability.  I am thinking about having my rifle stock done.  However, it seems no matter what "finish" that I get on my stocks, they all rub off, on contact spots, like on my gun belt, or my pack, etc.....  How does your finish hold up in those situations.  Seems like unless any finish is injection molded into the stock, it will not hold up.

[HydroDip]

Welcome to the site.  I must say your work is impressive, and you will eventually be doing some work for me.

HuntBear--  Thank you! I am looking foward to working with you. Just let me know if you have any questions whatsoever.

Adam Minic
Hydro-Dip

I do have a question on durability.  I am thinking about having my rifle stock done.  However, it seems no matter what "finish" that I get on my stocks, they all rub off, on contact spots, like on my gun belt, or my pack, etc.....  How does your finish hold up in those situations.  Seems like unless any finish is injection molded into the stock, it will not hold up.

HuntBear- We spray a vinyl semi-gloss or matte finish that is very durable as far as decorative coatings go. We use the same industrial coating line that the top firearm compaines use. The difference is we apply additional coats of topcoat in comparison to factory finishes. It will withstand 80 sanding strokes to break through the topcoat finish with a mid grit sandpaper. Any item that has a real high usage rate is going to wear over time. Our coatings are designed for asthetic appeal and to eliminate the outside maintenance of the firearm and will withstand brush beating just fine but there are cases were pistols will have some wear from sliding the firearm in and out of a tight tacktical holster. In this instance you are better off leaving the pistol uncoated. We do offer a full 1 year warranty on our workmanship and stand behind our coatings. My personal rifle a Tikka 300 WSM has withstood many hunts with very little wear. Fact is powdercoat is more durable but our vinyl topcoats hold up just fine under normal usage.

Adam Minic
Hydro-Dip

[Huntbear]

Thanks for the reply, that is what I was hoping to hear.  As soon as I can round up the money will be sending my rifle stock to you to have done.

[ivarhusa]

Next month the M2D CAMO company will begin applying their particular pattern to gunstocks and such, with this hydro process.  (I've heard good things about the M2D camo, and just bought their parka.)

http://www.m2dcamo.com/news.html


Ivar

[mossback91]

I think I need a camo motorcycle!!

[huntnphool]

Looks like they have done it Moss

[mossback91]

Thats awesome!! Im thinkin some kings desert camo........or sooo many other possibilties!!

[huntnphool]

Just do it Moss

[HydroDip]

Looks like they have done it Moss

Huntnphool- This is Erik Buell of Buell motorcycles autographing our camo bike. We have had the privledge of working on some awesome projects.

FYI- That camo pattern is actually Next G-1. We do have Mossy Oak now though...

Adam Minic
Hydro-Dip

[bearmanric]

guess i dont need to camo my calls. thanks. Rick

[huntnphool]

That is very cool Adam, I need to make a road trip and check out the shop and process. I have a few things I need done and need to show you how big they are to get a accurate quote.

[trippledigitss]

Hey guys - I know this topic is a bit old but I found it in a search for camo dip. I just got one of these camo dip kits from mydipkit.com and it is pretty cool. The stuff is a little tempermental and it took me a few practice dips to figure it out to make things look better but I think I'm getting it now. I just dipped this little Bushnell 3-9x40 scope and it turned out pretty nice. I still want to put a couple more clear coats on it so there is still tape over the zoom dial and lenses and rubber rings around the eye peice - cuz of course I didnt want to get paint or camo on them - so thats why it looks bad in those areas

The kit was $100 and comes with ALOT of film, it says 1 sq meter, but its a roll about 24" wide and 12 or so feet long. I think I'll run out of activator long before I run out film. Basically you prime & paint your part, put the film on top of water, like in a plastic bin, then spray it with this activator stuf then dip your part, let it dry then clear coat it. Seems pretty durable too. I have tried to scratch it off with a finger nail and it wont scratch thru the clear coat very easy at all - you really have to try hard to scratch it. You can check out videos on campdipkit.com, mydipkit.com or on YouTube.

 I think the scope looks good but these dont really do it justice. Anyway, whatever its worth...

[trippledigitss]

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[Swag]

Better bang for the buck....... http://www.northwesthydroprint.com/Pricing.html

[addicted]

Hey guys - I know this topic is a bit old but I found it in a search for camo dip. I just got one of these camo dip kits from mydipkit.com and it is pretty cool. The stuff is a little tempermental and it took me a few practice dips to figure it out to make things look better but I think I'm getting it now. I just dipped this little Bushnell 3-9x40 scope and it turned out pretty nice. I still want to put a couple more clear coats on it so there is still tape over the zoom dial and lenses and rubber rings around the eye peice - cuz of course I didnt want to get paint or camo on them - so thats why it looks bad in those areas

The kit was $100 and comes with ALOT of film, it says 1 sq meter, but its a roll about 24" wide and 12 or so feet long. I think I'll run out of activator long before I run out film. Basically you prime & paint your part, put the film on top of water, like in a plastic bin, then spray it with this activator stuf then dip your part, let it dry then clear coat it. Seems pretty durable too. I have tried to scratch it off with a finger nail and it wont scratch thru the clear coat very easy at all - you really have to try hard to scratch it. You can check out videos on campdipkit.com, mydipkit.com or on YouTube.

 I think the scope looks good but these dont really do it justice. Anyway, whatever its worth...

how did the turrets and variable power ring work out?

[trippledigitss]

Those are good prices on that website and the nice thing is you are guaranteed to get a nice professional finish. But with all the film in this kit I think I could easily do 10 complete rifles, barrels stocks & all or countless pistols & scopes. You can really dip alot with one kit -but.... the quality is all up to you. Try to hurry or cut corners and you will mess it up for sure.

I just took those pics this morning so I havent peeled the tape off yet to check the power ring. But the turrets turned out fine. I unscrewed them and they come off with no troubles and were perfectly clean underneath. I wll put the last clear coats on tonight and then tomorrow I'll pull all the tape off and see the final product. I'll let you know how it turns out.

[washelkhntr]

So what happens if you screw it up? Does it come off easily (before you have clear coated) so you can start over again?

[trippledigitss]

Yes & no.... but pretty much yes. I dipped a light switch cover and was not really happy with the results so I rubbed it all off with a scratch pad - for like pots & pans - after it dried & before I clear coated it and it came all off pretty easy. Then I re-painted it and re-dipped it and it came out pretty nice. I also dipped one of my AR15 Pmags and didnt like it - it wasnt that bad, just not perfect and I'm kinda picky. But after it dried it wouldnt scrub off very well so I painted over it and dipped it again and it turned out alot better. I guess if you cleaned it off before it dries it might be easier. But I'm sure there are things that you are not going to want to have to scrub & repaint, I cant really think of any right now but it seems like there would be some things. I dont know if I'd want to have to do that to my rifle barrel if I got a bad dip - but I guess you could and it really wouldnt hurt it. I've found that the water temp and amount of activator can really affect the results. Too warm of water and the film spreads out really fast, too much activator and its really sticky/slimy after you dip - too little activator and it doesnt take nice and wrap around the part well. It took some practice before I got good results.

I started a new thread under General Gear called Camo Dip Kit and have some of this info posted there if you are interested.

[Suncrest Sniper]

Better bang for the buck....... http://www.northwesthydroprint.com/Pricing.html

Those are really good prices!! Half of what the place over near Boise, ID wanted to do my TC stock. $80.00 is a lot better than $160.00 any day!!

Thanks big time for that link.

SS