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e-bike on state land survey
« on: April 25, 2022, 08:20:13 AM »
https://wdfw.wa.gov/news/wdfw-dnr-seek-public-feedback-electric-assist-biking-state-managed-lands

Survey to kick off New rules for E-Bikes on WDFW/DNR land.

My main comment, look at EASEMENTS to public land, too, not just the land itself.  There are many DNR routes that pass through private land that go to public land.  Why couldn't E-Bikes be use on these routes??

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Re: e-bike on state land survey
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2022, 08:46:03 AM »
my  :twocents:, the bikes that are electric assist and meet the wattage threshold should be allowed. Public lands should be for everyone at all stages of life and these bikes won't harm a thing. I wouldn't support the type that are essentially electric motorcycles, but could see allowing them for handicapped access.

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Re: e-bike on state land survey
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2022, 09:22:14 AM »
Ebikes should have ORV stickers to help pay for, and only use trails designated for motorcycles or larger off road vehicles, with no wattage restrictions.

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Re: e-bike on state land survey
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2022, 09:25:13 AM »
Just because it is a bike doesn't mean that it isn't a potential cause of fires.  Pedal bikes don't burst into flames when the batteries decide to "violently vent".

Same battery technology as cell phones, nav units, ear buds …

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Re: e-bike on state land survey
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2022, 09:29:08 AM »
Ebikes should have ORV stickers to help pay for, and only use trails designated for motorcycles or larger off road vehicles, with no wattage restrictions.
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Re: e-bike on state land survey
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2022, 09:33:02 AM »
I think the only application I would support for use in areas closed to motorize vehicles  is if it’s for handicap access. It definitely gives people an advantage much like a crossbow does during archery season So they should only be allowed in closed areas when that person shows that they have a medical reason to need that advantage

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Re: e-bike on state land survey
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2022, 09:36:58 AM »
I don't have an e-bike so no one should have one!

Just kidding. I don't care if someone uses an e-bike. Took the survey - allow them all.
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Re: e-bike on state land survey
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2022, 09:37:34 AM »
We need less restrictions on public land, not more.  There is no reason to ban ebikes.  What do they hurt?  Who do they harm?  Why does anyone care how hard it is to peddle a bicycle?

 



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Re: e-bike on state land survey
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2022, 09:37:51 AM »
Plenty of ORV trails for handicap to ride, with their ORV stickered ebike.

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Re: e-bike on state land survey
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2022, 09:41:56 AM »
We need less restrictions on public land, not more.  There is no reason to ban ebikes.  What do they hurt?  Who do they harm?  Why does anyone care how hard it is to peddle a bicycle?

This is just the beginning, ebikes are flooding the market and soon, they'll want to convert existing motorized trail systems to non-motorized, but ebike accessible.

Tbey should have to get ORV stickers and be plugged in as motorized vehicles (which they are) and get rid of all these stupid and often violated classes of ebikes.  If its got a battery and electric motor, ORV it!

This will ensure all these trail systems stay open to ORV activites and will provide a boost of much needed revenue to keep them maintained and open. 

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Re: e-bike on state land survey
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2022, 09:44:47 AM »
We need less restrictions on public land, not more.  There is no reason to ban ebikes.  What do they hurt?  Who do they harm?  Why does anyone care how hard it is to peddle a bicycle?

This is just the beginning, ebikes are flooding the market and soon, they'll want to convert existing motorized trail systems to non-motorized but ebike accessible.

Tbey should have to get ORV stickers and be plugged in as motorized vehicles (which they are) and get ride of all these stupid and often violated classes of ebikes.  If its got a battery and electric motor, ORV it.  This will ensure all these trail systems stay open to ORV activites and will provide a boost of much needed revenue to keep them maintained and open.

ORV stickers should be eliminated for all vehicles. 

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Re: e-bike on state land survey
« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2022, 09:45:52 AM »
Ok, how does the state pay for orv trails then?

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Re: e-bike on state land survey
« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2022, 09:47:08 AM »
With the greenies wanting to reduce CO2, it would seem like the state would be encouraging more e-bikes on their land.

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Re: e-bike on state land survey
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2022, 09:50:55 AM »
Ok, how does the state pay for orv trails then?

Maybe use the surplus from the 405 toll lanes?  The state has plenty of money but they are always looking for more ways to squeeze the public.  Everyone is looking for someone else to “pay their fair share”.

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Re: e-bike on state land survey
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2022, 09:56:58 AM »
Ok, how does the state pay for orv trails then?

Maybe use the surplus from the 405 toll lanes?  The state has plenty of money but they are always looking for more ways to squeeze the public.  Everyone is looking for someone else to “pay their fair share”.

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