WDFW 2022 Proposals?

[RobinHoodlum]

RE: Yakima herd management...

Yes, shocked to see such a whiplash ratcheting up of cow permits yet again. Not as bad as what they did a few years ago, but still seems like "boom-bust" management to me. We'll be back to scraps the first time they get one survey below objective survey or can't complete it due to weather.

Bull tag restriction makes zero sense if there are legitimately 11,000+ elk in the population, there's got to be somewhere in the neighborhood of 2,000 bulls.

The fact that 2 years of no data were used to justify elimination of over-the-counter archery cow tags still irks me. Guess they think offering a higher number of early only and late only draw tags evens the allocation in terms of opportunity. Harvest, not so much. 

[dreamingbig]

RE: Yakima herd management...

Yes, shocked to see such a whiplash ratcheting up of cow permits yet again. Not as bad as what they did a few years ago, but still seems like "boom-bust" management to me. We'll be back to scraps the first time they get one survey below objective survey or can't complete it due to weather.

Bull tag restriction makes zero sense if there are legitimately 11,000+ elk in the population, there's got to be somewhere in the neighborhood of 2,000 bulls.

The fact that 2 years of no data were used to justify elimination of over-the-counter archery cow tags still irks me. Guess they think offering a higher number of early only and late only draw tags evens the allocation in terms of opportunity. Harvest, not so much.

Quality archery elk tags were decreased 27% statewide.  Rimrock lost 33%.  Having 5 to 15 archery QE tags for these units is absurd.  Success rates are still 20% or less.


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[Skyvalhunter]

That's terrible news

[Ridgerunner]

The new permit numbers are pretty depressing if you are an elk hunter in this state.  With this commission I'm going to be shocked if they approve OIL permit levels at the level they were proposed. 

[Rainier10]

The new permit numbers are pretty depressing if you are an elk hunter in this state.  With this commission I'm going to be shocked if they approve OIL permit levels at the level they were proposed.

I agree.  I was so dissappointed in the last commission meeting.  Testimony was falling on deaf ears with a predetermined vote.

It is a sad day when hunters are "shocked" if the commission follows the recommendation of department.  It won't be long and the WDFW will be pointless, just let the commission shut it all down, no need for WDFW.  The input of WDFW doesn't matter.

[steeleywhopper]

We now have an Anti-Hunting Commission and things are not going to get better until they are ousted!

[dreamingbig]

Where are we at with senate confirmations?  Slimmer of hope keeping one or two of them from being confirmed.

But then again two more pro-hunting votes have terms expiring this year.


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[GASoline71]

RE: Yakima herd management...

Yes, shocked to see such a whiplash ratcheting up of cow permits yet again. Not as bad as what they did a few years ago, but still seems like "boom-bust" management to me. We'll be back to scraps the first time they get one survey below objective survey or can't complete it due to weather.

Bull tag restriction makes zero sense if there are legitimately 11,000+ elk in the population, there's got to be somewhere in the neighborhood of 2,000 bulls.

The fact that 2 years of no data were used to justify elimination of over-the-counter archery cow tags still irks me. Guess they think offering a higher number of early only and late only draw tags evens the allocation in terms of opportunity. Harvest, not so much.

When we went for almost 10 years with 200 to 250 cow permits in the Yakima Herd GMU's, it made the 20 cow permits for the same GMU's happen over the last few years.  But to just suddenly bring them back to 150 doesn't seem right to me either.  There needs to be a middle ground here with cow and bull permits.  This feast or famine approach is getting ridiculous.

In the new regs, I also see that Little Naches (346) has 150 cow permits, and the Umtanum has 150 cow permits and includes 342 AND 346 in the boundaries.  WTF?

Gary 

[fishngamereaper]

RE: Yakima herd management...

Yes, shocked to see such a whiplash ratcheting up of cow permits yet again. Not as bad as what they did a few years ago, but still seems like "boom-bust" management to me. We'll be back to scraps the first time they get one survey below objective survey or can't complete it due to weather.

Bull tag restriction makes zero sense if there are legitimately 11,000+ elk in the population, there's got to be somewhere in the neighborhood of 2,000 bulls.

The fact that 2 years of no data were used to justify elimination of over-the-counter archery cow tags still irks me. Guess they think offering a higher number of early only and late only draw tags evens the allocation in terms of opportunity. Harvest, not so much.

When we went for almost 10 years with 200 to 250 cow permits in the Yakima Herd GMU's, it made the 20 cow permits for the same GMU's happen over the last few years.  But to just suddenly bring them back to 150 doesn't seem right to me either.  There needs to be a middle ground here with cow and bull permits.  This feast or famine approach is getting ridiculous.

In the new regs, I also see that Little Naches (346) has 150 cow permits, and the Umtanum has 150 cow permits and includes 342 AND 346 in the boundaries.  WTF?

Gary

I was looking at that... doesn't make sense.
They also have the late cow tags now... area's that see migration. So what's the goal... provide opportunity, or herd control... putting hunting pressure on the herd's in December when they are heading for the welfare lots ..hmm..

If this is management I'm confused.

[Bullmoose]

Looks like Muzzle loader don't get the a lot of tags like the others again this year