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.350 legend info?
« on: May 09, 2022, 12:32:17 AM »
I am clueless when it comes to all the different caliber sizes etc. Is the new 350 legend legal fir big game, bigger than 243?

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Re: .350 legend info?
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2022, 12:37:18 AM »
It's a straight wall .223.  I would say deer sized game to a couple hundred yards.  Sounds like promising reviews from those who have used it on deer in short range hunting.

Reports are it has less recoil than a .243. 

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Re: .350 legend info?
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2022, 12:41:01 AM »
It's a straight wall .223.  I would say deer sized game to a couple hundred yards.  Sounds like promising reviews from those who have used it on deer in short range hunting.

Reports are it has less recoil than a .243.
I don't know what straight wall means, is it legal in wa for big game?

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Re: .350 legend info?
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2022, 12:42:40 AM »
Abd yes they say inside 200 yards it's supptti be the greatest and fastest but they don't recommend past 200.

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Re: .350 legend info?
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2022, 02:38:21 AM »
The brass is straight with no shoulder / neck.  Here are a couple pics…..the second pic has straight wall and in comparison to a necked rifle cartridge. 

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Re: .350 legend info?
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2022, 05:06:15 AM »
Yes it’s legal
https://www.howlforwildlife.org/take_action  It takes 10 seconds and it’s free. To easy to make an excuse not to make your voice heard!!!!!!

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Re: .350 legend info?
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2022, 07:38:11 AM »
Yes legal in WA state.  350 Legend was designed specifically as a deer hunting cartridge for Midwest states (Ohio, Iowa, etc.) that require a straight wall cartridge with minimum 35 caliber.  Was designed to harvest deer out to 200 yards.  Low recoil, especially if you adopt it in an AR platform.   And those 0.355" caliber bullets are much more available than .357 or .358 bullets right now.....I've thought of getting a 350 Legend just because of the prevalence of bullets compared to my .358 caliber cartridges....I peruse the reolading websites and see 35 cal bullets in stock, only to realize it's the .355s....

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Re: .350 legend info?
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2022, 07:39:02 AM »
It’s not the fastest (not even close) nor the greatest. It was purpose built for hunters that are restricted to using straight walled cartridges for deer. There’s much better options for use around here.

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Re: .350 legend info?
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2022, 08:13:48 AM »
Bigger bullet than 243,but doesn't have the velocity that the 243 has.
I don't know if there is any truth to this.
Someone told me the Legend head spaces off where the brass meets the bullet. :dunno:

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Re: .350 legend info?
« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2022, 08:19:17 AM »
It’s not the fastest (not even close) nor the greatest. It was purpose built for hunters that are restricted to using straight walled cartridges for deer. There’s much better options for use around here.

 :yeah:

It was designed to utilize a loophole to allow for rifles to be used in areas where there are rifle restrictions (shotgun only).

I don't see any reason why someone not hunting in those areas would choose it as a hunting round other than during ammo shortages it seems to be the only thing on the shelves around here.

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Re: .350 legend info?
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2022, 01:38:37 PM »
It is also the only caliber that I have seen in the past year or so that is always in stock in Walmart.......lots of stock.

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Re: .350 legend info?
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2022, 06:01:01 AM »
Not enough power to kill a moo cow at point blank between the eyes, the guy tried a couple of times, cow ran off finally…

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Re: .350 legend info?
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2022, 06:55:38 AM »
Not enough power to kill a moo cow at point blank between the eyes, the guy tried a couple of times, cow ran off finally…

Armor plated cow?

350 Legend fires a 170gr bullet with 1879 ft-lbs of muzzle energy, 882 ft-lbs energy still at 200 yards.   Which is ballistically equivalent to a 30-30 with 170gr bullet out to 200 yards....granted 30-30 bullet is higher BC so drops less and less wind effected....but energy wise is similar.  Except 350 Legend has a wider meplat and makes a larger hole. 

Growing up, when time to butcher our cows/pigs/sheep we used a 22 to the head.  Today's cows must have evolved to have thicker skulls now....  darn you Darwin....

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Re: .350 legend info?
« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2022, 07:46:51 AM »
Not enough power to kill a moo cow at point blank between the eyes, the guy tried a couple of times, cow ran off finally…

Armor plated cow?

350 Legend fires a 170gr bullet with 1879 ft-lbs of muzzle energy, 882 ft-lbs energy still at 200 yards.   Which is ballistically equivalent to a 30-30 with 170gr bullet out to 200 yards....granted 30-30 bullet is higher BC so drops less and less wind effected....but energy wise is similar.  Except 350 Legend has a wider meplat and makes a larger hole. 

Growing up, when time to butcher our cows/pigs/sheep we used a 22 to the head.  Today's cows must have evolved to have thicker skulls now....  darn you Darwin....
don’t get your panties back n a bunch because the 350 legend sucks…. Tough cow *censored*ty cartridge

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Re: .350 legend info?
« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2022, 09:06:54 AM »
Not enough power to kill a moo cow at point blank between the eyes, the guy tried a couple of times, cow ran off finally…

Armor plated cow?

350 Legend fires a 170gr bullet with 1879 ft-lbs of muzzle energy, 882 ft-lbs energy still at 200 yards.   Which is ballistically equivalent to a 30-30 with 170gr bullet out to 200 yards....granted 30-30 bullet is higher BC so drops less and less wind effected....but energy wise is similar.  Except 350 Legend has a wider meplat and makes a larger hole. 

Growing up, when time to butcher our cows/pigs/sheep we used a 22 to the head.  Today's cows must have evolved to have thicker skulls now....  darn you Darwin....
don’t get your panties back n a bunch because the 350 legend sucks…. Tough cow *censored*ty cartridge

Panties in a bunch? 

I don't even have a 350 Legend.  Just posting facts. 




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Re: .350 legend info?
« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2022, 03:43:06 PM »
I'm a big 35 caliber fan, and I really wanted to like this cartridge when it came out.  But, it just seems a little 'meh' compared to other options.  If I needed a 35 caliber straight walled cartridge, I'd probably go with a 357 maximum before this.  Maybe a 357 mag in a leveraction - because I like the platform, and I'm getting an extra 150-250 fps out of a carbine length barrel compared to a handgun.

And for true 35's I'd rather shoot a 35 rem, 356 win, or 358 win...

I'm guessing this cartridge will probably fade away.

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Re: .350 legend info?
« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2022, 04:31:20 PM »
Yeah there is a reason I don't have a 350 Legend.  Already have the 356Win, 35 Whelen, 357 Magnum, etc.   Am just jealous the .355 bullets are so available compared to .358......

356 Win is my favorite woods carry rifle for scouting/defense/western forest hunting, frequently carry it instead of a revolver (my model 627 is 2.75lb).  Comes at 6lbs 0.8oz with red dot sight.  220gr Speer Hot Cor.  Will be loading 225gr Hawk bullets once they finally arrive.   

I think the 350 Legend will survive as a niche in the midwestern states that it was designed to be legal in. 

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Re: .350 legend info?
« Reply #17 on: May 15, 2022, 04:51:48 PM »
Agreed the 350 Legend will survive, because of the restrictions in those midwest states.

There are just better choices that are legal here, so its hard to find a reason to want one.
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Re: .350 legend info?
« Reply #18 on: May 17, 2022, 06:06:57 AM »
Not enough power to kill a moo cow at point blank between the eyes, the guy tried a couple of times, cow ran off finally…

don’t get your panties back n a bunch because the 350 legend sucks…. Tough cow *censored*ty cartridge

The 350 Legend is a great caliber for deer out to 200 yards.
Just like any other caliber if a jackazz places a bad shot a house cat will take off after being shot.
Sounds like that is what happened to this poor shot cow.
Ive killed a ship load of downed cows when I worked at a 650 cow dairy farm with a 38spl Smith & Wesson 642.
No comparison to a 350 Ledend so I call BS on this one.
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Re: .350 legend info?
« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2022, 07:17:17 AM »
I actually use a 350 for putting down downers on our dairy. Works great, very quick and clean. Have alot of options and this is now our go to. Also helps ammo is pretty easy to find.

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Re: .350 legend info?
« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2022, 04:27:15 PM »
Yeah there is a reason I don't have a 350 Legend.  Already have the 356Win, 35 Whelen, 357 Magnum, etc.   Am just jealous the .355 bullets are so available compared to .358......

356 Win is my favorite woods carry rifle for scouting/defense/western forest hunting, frequently carry it instead of a revolver (my model 627 is 2.75lb).  Comes at 6lbs 0.8oz with red dot sight.  220gr Speer Hot Cor.  Will be loading 225gr Hawk bullets once they finally arrive.   

I think the 350 Legend will survive as a niche in the midwestern states that it was designed to be legal in.

Yes, I agree on the 356 win.  When I do hunt with rifles, the 356 is usually the first one I grab.  I like Marlin's action.  And I've loaded up a few 'grouse loads' with .357 SWCs.  My more recent big game load is a 203 gn solid copper Hammer bullet.  They shoot well, but I have yet to shoot a critter with it.

Hammer does make some .355 for the legend.

The nice thing about the true 35 calibers, is you can load 357 pistol bullets for plinkers and small game.  I've got loads of those - flat nosed and HPs suitable for tubular mags.  Some of the 35 bullets intended for the 35 Remington can be too lightly constructed for a 356/358/35 whelen.

 


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