We have a boat load of points. Your odds are better in the elk category as two of us have dropped out this year. My son is still a youth so we put him in for everything we usually do. Daughter and I just did quality deer, and I put her in for a second deer. Was hard to get motivated to drop the $$ this year. Another motivator to save money on tags, we have a delicious looking Simental steer heading to the freezer in July.