2023 spring bear comment period

[Skyvalhunter]

I see it as going thru the motions because we weren't happy with the results. I don't see this as changing anyone's mind at this point.  Maybe later if we were to get some commissioners on our side. But that's just me

[trophyhunt]

I see it as going thru the motions because we weren't happy with the results. I don't see this as changing anyone's mind at this point.  Maybe later if we were to get some commissioners on our side. But that's just me

not just you, I feel like a fool sending another comment to people who don’t give two chits what we have to say.

[RB]

Does anyone know a Podcast, or Blog that would support this and get the word out to more people? Could the pro hunting side get good press somehow for support? A news journalist that would cover this objectively and show the facts, and not just the dramatic opinions?

[nwwanderer]

WDFW could use their own data for that if they had the resource interest in mind.  Starting a little push for the controllers would be a good thing.  Just saying

[Special T]

Ive read the petition it asks some good questions and makes some good statements. The fact is we need to cast a different net.

Since schools depend on the management of funds via timber sales.  Has the WDFW Commission  interacted with the DNR on the cost of  bear tree damage. The DNR should have a person that could answer these questions. Surely they have bear peelings in reports or maps right? My kids school district has to make some cuts because they are not getting timber dollars that they have depended on in the past.

https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/washington-state-supreme-court-trust-lands-fund-schools/281-e6e5e39f-7bb3-4d68-bb96-a3655bc64794

If you are early in the comment que for Friday I would ask the commissioners if they have had a presentation by anyone as to the real measured costs of bear damage. How much money is affected by this in the DNR? My kids school is affected, are yours?

[Stein]

 

Not only current dollars, but future dollars where bidders/buyers may be inclined to include projected losses due to bear damage.  I don't know how the whole timber sale thing works, but you get the idea.

[Special T]

Not only current dollars, but future dollars where bidders/buyers may be inclined to include projected losses due to bear damage.  I don't know how the whole timber sale thing works, but you get the idea.

The important part is that its government based numbers AND it has to do with our kids and schools. Hunting is the cost effective solution to management.

[GASoline71]

Kinda feel like a stupid fool sending a comment, haven’t we’ve done this a few other times? It’s like talking to children who are jumping up and down yelling w fingers in their ears!!  But, fool me again into thinking our comments matter… comment sent…

Man I know it sucks.  It's asinine we even have to defend ourselves in this.  But one pro-hunting comment not sent, will be replaced with 10 anti-hunting comments.

My comments sent...

Gary

[elkrack]

The comment section is a joke. It should be one comment per person. Having it completely open to as many comments as wanted is not an accurate sample. It’s a waste of time leaving a comment in there. The agenda is set and courts are probably the only solution to this matter.  if they are even a possibility 

[highcountry_hunter]

My kids school district has to make some cuts because they are not getting timber dollars that they have depended on in the past.

Did the school give lack of timber dollars as a specific reason for budget cuts? Because in the last few years I’ve never seen so much timber move in the NE corner. Lumber and plywood prices were through the roof until last summer and the mills were practically begging for more logs. Even tho lumber prices have dropped significantly, they are still right at the pre-pandemic level and the mills are still asking for logs.
Lots of DNR sales going on. Not to mention the Good Neighbors Agreement where the DNR sets up and manages timber sales on Forest Service lands which is a good source of income for the DNR.


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[Skyvalhunter]

Over on the west side near me Weyco & Campbell (who purchased alot of their land) has done the majority of logging. Not sure if they contribute to the schools. The state has done some. The forest service is pretty much non existent in logging over here as it takes an extensive. Amount of time and paperwork just to het a timber sale approved.