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Re: What’s your fuel price limit?
« Reply #60 on: June 08, 2022, 09:00:06 PM »
The left wants high oil prices because it will drive oil out of the market to be replaced by renewables (and they are bought off).  The republicans are more straight forward, just bought off. 

Of course the government could do something, or at least pretend, but they don't because that's how our system works unfortunately.  Biden and Mitch aren't too worried at the gas pump because neither of them have actually pumped their own gas or probably even remember how to.

Same result, different administration, artificial market with little to no competition with profit protected by the various governments around the globe.

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Re: What’s your fuel price limit?
« Reply #61 on: June 09, 2022, 05:42:48 AM »
Gone are the days when a kid could take a gas can down to the gas station put $.25 in and have enough gas to mow laws for a week.
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Re: What’s your fuel price limit?
« Reply #62 on: June 09, 2022, 07:06:53 AM »
Zero to do with profits, all agenda driven. Sure the oil companies are making money now, but the future looks bleak.
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Re: What’s your fuel price limit?
« Reply #63 on: June 09, 2022, 09:04:02 AM »
 :yeah:

No way I'd be investing in the future/expansion if I were an oil company given what the current administration has said about ending the industry. Make all the money they can while they still can. If this administration comes around, or is hopefully replaced, and their positions on oil change then it could be considered again.

There isn't really a limit for me price wise.  I've always set money aside for hunting season throughout the year, I just upped the amount I'm setting aside now.  Trimmed the unnecessary things in life, hardly ever eat out anymore.  No more frivolous/impulse purchases. I'll have the fuel money put away to stick with my original plans even if it gets to something crazy like $10/gallon. Worst case I'd put it on a card if my set aside ran dry.  It's all about priorities, and hunting season is darn near #1 for me.

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Re: What’s your fuel price limit?
« Reply #64 on: June 09, 2022, 09:26:49 AM »
Biden is actually pushing for more drilling, you have to separate him from the party platform.  He is very worried about elections and willing to change course rapidly where the platform is more steady (similar to virtually all presidents).  He knows $6 gas will crush them at the polls, so the platform quickly takes back seat to polling.  Many on the left are livid at what they see as him abandoning the climate platform for short term economic reasons.

I think companies aren't increasing production for a variety of reasons.  The small producers can't get financing as banks learned their lessons.  For the big guys, many/most/all of their C level is paid on short term returns and there is no real push for them to plan for more production in the future when they can absolutely crush it in the short term and leave that for someone else to figure out.  Nobody is pushing them to drill so they don't.

They also learned a big lesson on how it can go from $100 to $20 or even negative and the longer it stays above $100 the more likely they will be to increase production.

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Re: What’s your fuel price limit?
« Reply #65 on: June 09, 2022, 09:28:50 AM »
Biden is actually pushing for more drilling, you have to separate him from the party platform.  He is very worried about elections and willing to change course rapidly where the platform is more steady (similar to virtually all presidents).  He knows $6 gas will crush them at the polls, so the platform quickly takes back seat to polling.  Many on the left are livid at what they see as him abandoning the climate platform for short term economic reasons.

I think companies aren't increasing production for a variety of reasons.  The small producers can't get financing as banks learned their lessons.  For the big guys, many/most/all of their C level is paid on short term returns and there is no real push for them to plan for more production in the future when they can absolutely crush it in the short term and leave that for someone else to figure out.  Nobody is pushing them to drill so they don't.

They also learned a big lesson on how it can go from $100 to $20 or even negative and the longer it stays above $100 the more likely they will be to increase production.

Can you cite a time Biden has said anything pro drilling and domestic production in the last 12 months?
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Re: What’s your fuel price limit?
« Reply #66 on: June 09, 2022, 09:42:03 AM »
March 31 speech, surprisingly blunt and no surprise the environmentalists are livid:

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For U.S. oil companies that are recording their largest profits in years, they have a choice.  One, they can put those profits to productive use by producing more oil, restarting idle wells, or producing on the sites they already are leasing — giving the American people a break by passing some of the savings on to their customers and lowering the price at the pump.

They have everything they need.  Nothing is standing in their way.  And they’ve indicated they will be producing an extra 1 million barrels of oil per day, probably starting as early as this fall.  That’s progress.

But some companies have been pretty blunt.  They don’t want to increase supply because Putin’s price hike means higher profits.

One CEO even acknowledged that they don’t care if the price of a barrel of oil goes to $200 a barrel.  They’re not going to step up the production.

I say: Enough.  Enough of lavishing excessive profits on investors and payouts and buybacks when the American people are watching, the world is watching.

U.S. oil companies made nearly $80 billion in profit last year.  And this year, those profits are expected to continue to soar.

This is a time — not the time to sit on record profits.

It’s time to step up for the good of your country, the good of the world; to invest in immediate production that we need to respond to Vladimir Putin; to provide some relief for your customers, not investors and executives.

Right now, the oil and gas industry is sitting on nearly 9,000 unused but approved permits for production on federal lands.  There are more than a [12] million unused acres they have a right to — to pump on.

Congress should make companies pay fees on wells on federal leases they haven’t used in years and acres of public land they’re hoarding without production.

Companies that are already producing from these wells won’t be affected.  But those sitting on unused leases and idle wells will either have to start producing or pay the price for their inaction.

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Re: What’s your fuel price limit?
« Reply #67 on: June 09, 2022, 09:58:20 AM »
My cutoff is whatever the pumps asks for, I won't pay one penny over asking price!

What are people going to complain about next, we elected these idiot officials that shut down our own production and kill our GDP.  Everything in this world cost money, if you really want to hunt, you cut back on other things and hunt, if you don't, then don't pay for the extra fuel.  Having some arbitrary cutoff seems ridiculous.
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Re: What’s your fuel price limit?
« Reply #68 on: June 09, 2022, 10:04:26 AM »
My cutoff is whatever the pumps asks for, I won't pay one penny over asking price!

What are people going to complain about next, we elected these idiot officials that shut down our own production and kill our GDP.  Everything in this world cost money, if you really want to hunt, you cut back on other things and hunt, if you don't, then don't pay for the extra fuel.  Having some arbitrary cutoff seems ridiculous.

I think it's not so much an "arbitrary cutoff" as much as "what's the top you can afford". I for one am on a budget and there most definitely is a number the pumps might hit where even getting to work is going to start being an issue.

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Re: What’s your fuel price limit?
« Reply #69 on: June 09, 2022, 10:07:56 AM »
I'll probably do less scouting or do longer, but less trips. I'll be doing my usual hunting trips. If gas cost is an issue I will work an extra side job or two to pay for the fuel.

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Re: What’s your fuel price limit?
« Reply #70 on: June 09, 2022, 10:16:47 AM »
I'll probably do less scouting or do longer, but less trips. I'll be doing my usual hunting trips. If gas cost is an issue I will work an extra side job or two to pay for the fuel.

My wife has been a stay at home for the last 7 years with our kids. She had to get a part time this year at a grocer so she could help with food costs. *censored* is tough.

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Re: What’s your fuel price limit?
« Reply #71 on: June 09, 2022, 11:29:03 AM »
I'll probably do less scouting or do longer, but less trips. I'll be doing my usual hunting trips. If gas cost is an issue I will work an extra side job or two to pay for the fuel.

My wife has been a stay at home for the last 7 years with our kids. She had to get a part time this year at a grocer so she could help with food costs. *censored* is tough.

Yes, I understand that. I used to be there financially when my wife was staying home with the kids. I was always working two jobs and falling behind. This inflation would be really hard for us back then as it is for many now. Luckily I am in a better place financially. I feel for everyone that is hurting and hope it doesn't get much worse. The party that pretends to support the middle class and poor is the one that makes us suffer. Hopefully you get lucky early this hunting season.

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Re: What’s your fuel price limit?
« Reply #72 on: June 09, 2022, 11:56:10 AM »
I'll probably do less scouting or do longer, but less trips. I'll be doing my usual hunting trips. If gas cost is an issue I will work an extra side job or two to pay for the fuel.

My wife has been a stay at home for the last 7 years with our kids. She had to get a part time this year at a grocer so she could help with food costs. *censored* is tough.

Yes, I get that, I wasn't trying to be an ass, and I truly feel for the people having to make these difficult decisions, just thought it was an odd question to ask people when they can't afford gas to hunt.
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Re: What’s your fuel price limit?
« Reply #73 on: June 09, 2022, 12:49:44 PM »
I'll probably do less scouting or do longer, but less trips. I'll be doing my usual hunting trips. If gas cost is an issue I will work an extra side job or two to pay for the fuel.

My wife has been a stay at home for the last 7 years with our kids. She had to get a part time this year at a grocer so she could help with food costs. *censored* is tough.

Yes, I get that, I wasn't trying to be an ass, and I truly feel for the people having to make these difficult decisions, just thought it was an odd question to ask people when they can't afford gas to hunt.

I understand, it is an odd question to ask. A better one could be "what are you doing to offset high fuel costs to ensure you still have a hunt?" or something like that.

It's just frustrating hearing some guys go off about how they already waste money other places so gas won't be an issue and that people are "pouting" about gas. I don't waste any money and I'm not pouting - the middle class (the actual middle class) is getting crushed. I envy ya'll who have the means to do everything you normally would this year but for my family we'll already have to cut out a lot of planned camps, a trip to the coast and thanksgiving with my brother in Colorado if these fuel prices stick around.

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Re: What’s your fuel price limit?
« Reply #74 on: June 09, 2022, 01:05:42 PM »
I'll probably do less scouting or do longer, but less trips. I'll be doing my usual hunting trips. If gas cost is an issue I will work an extra side job or two to pay for the fuel.



My wife has been a stay at home for the last 7 years with our kids. She had to get a part time this year at a grocer so she could help with food costs. *censored* is tough.
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