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Re: 2022 Permit Returned
« Reply #30 on: June 16, 2022, 11:42:25 AM »
WAC 220-412-080(1)(h) says, in part, as follows:

"(h) If for any reason a successful applicant chooses not to participate in the hunt, they are eligible for point restoration. The successful applicant seeking point restoration must return the special hunting season permit to the department of fish and wildlife Olympia headquarters two weeks before the opening day of the special hunting season so it can be reissued."

Sure sounds like the WAC contemplates the tags being reissued.
"Can" be reissued is different then "must" be reissued.

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True, which is why I said the WAC "contemplates" reissuance instead of "requires" reissuance.

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Re: 2022 Permit Returned
« Reply #31 on: June 16, 2022, 11:42:39 AM »
WAC 220-412-080(1)(h) says, in part, as follows:

"(h) If for any reason a successful applicant chooses not to participate in the hunt, they are eligible for point restoration. The successful applicant seeking point restoration must return the special hunting season permit to the department of fish and wildlife Olympia headquarters two weeks before the opening day of the special hunting season so it can be reissued."

Sure sounds like the WAC contemplates the tags being reissued.
"Can" be reissued is different then "must" be reissued.

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Re: 2022 Permit Returned
« Reply #32 on: June 16, 2022, 11:44:27 AM »
WAC 220-412-080(1)(h) says, in part, as follows:

"(h) If for any reason a successful applicant chooses not to participate in the hunt, they are eligible for point restoration. The successful applicant seeking point restoration must return the special hunting season permit to the department of fish and wildlife Olympia headquarters two weeks before the opening day of the special hunting season so it can be reissued."

Sure sounds like the WAC contemplates the tags being reissued.
"Can" be reissued is different then "must" be reissued.

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Exactly. I'll believe it when I start reading threads from people that have received a turned in tag. Until then they are just disappearing as far as I'm concerned.

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Re: 2022 Permit Returned
« Reply #33 on: June 16, 2022, 11:45:55 AM »
The only reason I entertained returning my tag was because I might not have a ton of time and figured someone out there would devote more to it, but, if it isn’t going to be reissued to someone else I’m definitely not turning it back in. I’m not worried about my points being restored.
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Re: 2022 Permit Returned
« Reply #34 on: June 16, 2022, 12:02:04 PM »
I love how some people think people don’t have the right to question how these things work, people just want a far shake and no you don’t win every time and yes there are flaws  in our system not sure what the right answers are always but I do know we should all want the tags to be used and not be wasted and I still think if you draw one tag that’s it . Even when there was more tags I thought the same thing but don’t worry all my otc tags will be used with a huge smile i

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Re: 2022 Permit Returned
« Reply #35 on: June 16, 2022, 12:31:48 PM »
we crossed this bridge last year too, and multiple people had emails including myself from the dept stating they would be reissuing the tags, and as bullblaster posted, there is a WAC that states it.  I find it really interesting that throughout this entire forum, nobody has a friend or a friend of a friend that got a call and received a "returned tag"  seems that someone on the forum would at least know of or personally know a person that did get the call.  I would think an attorney somewhere would be salivating at this and making the state prove they are following through. 

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Re: 2022 Permit Returned
« Reply #36 on: June 16, 2022, 12:36:45 PM »
we crossed this bridge last year too, and multiple people had emails including myself from the dept stating they would be reissuing the tags, and as bullblaster posted, there is a WAC that states it.  I find it really interesting that throughout this entire forum, nobody has a friend or a friend of a friend that got a call and received a "returned tag"  seems that someone on the forum would at least know of or personally know a person that did get the call.  I would think an attorney somewhere would be salivating at this and making the state prove they are following through.

“Can” be reissued and must are 2 very different words and unfortunately do you think 2 weeks before season is enough time ?

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Re: 2022 Permit Returned
« Reply #37 on: June 16, 2022, 12:40:17 PM »
I believe I have seen posts about a person receiving a permit that had been returned. So I think it does happen, but probably not every time.

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Re: 2022 Permit Returned
« Reply #38 on: June 16, 2022, 12:52:50 PM »
I believe I have seen posts about a person receiving a permit that had been returned. So I think it does happen, but probably not every time.

I understand that if a dude breaks his ankle a few weeks before season, or a fire breaks out in the unit shortly before the season, it may not be reissued due to time constraints. The fact that the department told the member who returned a couple of tags that they wouldn't be reissued with months to do so is absurd. I hope the person he was talking to was just ignorant.

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Re: 2022 Permit Returned
« Reply #39 on: June 16, 2022, 01:04:00 PM »
I believe I have seen posts about a person receiving a permit that had been returned. So I think it does happen, but probably not every time.

I understand that if a dude breaks his ankle a few weeks before season, or a fire breaks out in the unit shortly before the season, it may not be reissued due to time constraints. The fact that the department told the member who returned a couple of tags that they wouldn't be reissued with months to do so is absurd. I hope the person he was talking to was just ignorant.

As mentioned earlier in this thread, I received a returned ewe tag 2 years ago.

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Re: 2022 Permit Returned
« Reply #40 on: June 16, 2022, 01:11:04 PM »
Do they notify you if you receive a turned in tag? Would suck to see all non successful and get a successful and not know about it

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Re: 2022 Permit Returned
« Reply #41 on: June 16, 2022, 01:13:02 PM »
WAC 220-412-080(1)(h) says, in part, as follows:

"(h) If for any reason a successful applicant chooses not to participate in the hunt, they are eligible for point restoration. The successful applicant seeking point restoration must return the special hunting season permit to the department of fish and wildlife Olympia headquarters two weeks before the opening day of the special hunting season so it can be reissued."

Sure sounds like the WAC contemplates the tags being reissued.
"Can" be reissued is different then "must" be reissued.

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Or what season/year it would be reissued.    :dunno:
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Re: 2022 Permit Returned
« Reply #42 on: June 16, 2022, 01:22:50 PM »
I believe I have seen posts about a person receiving a permit that had been returned. So I think it does happen, but probably not every time.

I understand that if a dude breaks his ankle a few weeks before season, or a fire breaks out in the unit shortly before the season, it may not be reissued due to time constraints. The fact that the department told the member who returned a couple of tags that they wouldn't be reissued with months to do so is absurd. I hope the person he was talking to was just ignorant.

As mentioned earlier in this thread, I received a returned ewe tag 2 years ago.

That's awesome! I'm glad you got that opportunity. That's how it should work.

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Re: 2022 Permit Returned
« Reply #43 on: June 16, 2022, 01:25:07 PM »
I believe I have seen posts about a person receiving a permit that had been returned. So I think it does happen, but probably not every time.

I understand that if a dude breaks his ankle a few weeks before season, or a fire breaks out in the unit shortly before the season, it may not be reissued due to time constraints. The fact that the department told the member who returned a couple of tags that they wouldn't be reissued with months to do so is absurd. I hope the person he was talking to was just ignorant.

As mentioned earlier in this thread, I received a returned ewe tag 2 years ago.

That's awesome! I'm glad you got that opportunity. That's how it should work.

My FIL received a returned doe tag last season.  WDFW called him and asked if he wanted it.
It was a few months before season IIRC.

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Re: 2022 Permit Returned
« Reply #44 on: June 16, 2022, 01:28:57 PM »
I believe I have seen posts about a person receiving a permit that had been returned. So I think it does happen, but probably not every time.

I understand that if a dude breaks his ankle a few weeks before season, or a fire breaks out in the unit shortly before the season, it may not be reissued due to time constraints. The fact that the department told the member who returned a couple of tags that they wouldn't be reissued with months to do so is absurd. I hope the person he was talking to was just ignorant.

As mentioned earlier in this thread, I received a returned ewe tag 2 years ago.

That's awesome! I'm glad you got that opportunity. That's how it should work.

My FIL received a returned doe tag last season.  WDFW called him and asked if he wanted it.
It was a few months before season IIRC.

Thank you, so it can happen  :tup:

 


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