First oversize of 09' !

[Antlershed]

It does look like it was about 2030hrs, so does that mean they should have cut the line at 2130

Yep. 

[NW-Eric]

nice going paul, only 2 weeks away i cant wait

[Hoytstaffshooter83]

Im not sure why anyone is trying to say this fish was in any way illegal, sunset was 830 or  so that means I had till 930 to fish, so that fish was hooked 20 min before legal time was up, as already stated there was PLENTY of light, it wasnt even "dusk"  or at least what I consider it to be....... is that all most of you on here have time for ? to try and queston the legailty of something when you were not there in the first place? if thats the case I would hope you turn your attention to something more productive....

[Dmanmastertracker]

  Hoyt, this is not the first time you've thrown up a post like this and taken flack for it, at least the 3rd that I've seen. You aren't getting it, people here may not all be guide's, like you, but we've been doing this longer and get offended when someone brags about things that push the limits of what is legal and what is not, or even thing's that may be legal, but are not best practices. Either your watch is broken, or you again just plain didn't care when you took the photos, I can tell you that photo was not taken any earlier than 10pm, I work outside every night and on a clear night there is twilight past 10, no twilight in your photo. Are there any other boats out there with you? Why, do you know the only secret spot on the River?? The one thing that pissed me off more than any of that is the sling around the fish, partially lifting it out of the water, which AGAIN is ILLEGAL. You can practically see the eggs popping out of the fish and that is BS! pop the hook and let 'em go! I caught the biggest wild coho easily in my life a few years ago, I was tempted to lift out take measurement's, but I knew it was not legal, so I did not. Sometimes you have to do that. I bit my tongue this far, but for you to be indignant over some pretty mild comment's is ridiculous. I know your not a bad guy, just think about what you throw up here a little more and you won't get those kind of comments.

[Hoytstaffshooter83]

I really am not sure what to say other then.. are you kidding me?   the ignorance in your post is great!! lets take this from the top...... the fish was hooked at 910-912 I recall looking at my phone at 910 and it was not long after the fish was hooked...... 100% legal, you may be some expert with time but not in this case, after fighting the fish for 31 min... I lost my anchor and it took id guess 10 min to find it in the dark... that would be around 945..... so after finding it and pulling anchor, we ran back to the marina ( about 2 min in my boat) and the boat was on the trailer and off the water by 10:02.. I looked at my cell phone.. and we both know those are not wrong on time..  if you look CLOSE at the pic that fish is 100% still in the water and not being lifted out at all..... also 100% legal.... as far as the rope goes, if you know anything about sturgeon anatomy then you know they have no bones...... when they get that long SUPPORT is really important, otherwise you can HURT them.. so I use the rope as a way to support them for a measurement and pics before they are let go...... one person is at the head.. the rope is in the middle  and one person is on the tail/back fins  for 3 points of support over the WHOLE FISH.. that is the BEST way to not harm them......  I am also curious to how I was bragging? by posting saying hey! we got the first oversize of the year to my boat? how is that ANY diff then any other post? you really need to look closer and think things through before posting.. nothing we did that night was even borderline illegal......... so the next time you question my ethics have some actual facts to back your statements up.......

[fishaholic86]

I was on that boat the fish was hooked just after 9 oclock with in ten to fifteen minutes, it was never taken in any way out of the water and if you look the water is still flowing over the fins. the fish was released quickly and with as little stress as possible. the fish was released between 9:30-9:45 and we were off the water at 10 on the dot.

[shoot-em-dead]

Do you guys have to question ethics every time anyone posts anything. I for one am really getting tired of it. Seems like it doesn't matter what the topic is, someone has to start complaining.

[shoot-em-dead]

PS congrates on a spectacular fish

[Hoytstaffshooter83]

Thanks man! bout time someone else says they are getting tired of it, I fish 6 days a week at least... but I know nothing and do everything wrong.. or at least thats how it seems on here, I have no idea why anyone pays me? thanks for the tip, ill let you know how it goes, if you ever want to fish, the trip is on me! im a fair guy, you helped me, let me return the favor......

[singleshot12]

Do you guys have to question ethics every time anyone posts anything. I for one am really getting tired of it. Seems like it doesn't matter what the topic is, someone has to start complaining.

I think people are overly concerned because sturgeon fishing is  basically a delicate fishery. Nobody has really fished them much until just the last ten years. These oversize spawners are 30-80 years old on average. Sturgeon fishing appears to be a very popular sport now with dozens of guides and "a ton" of uneducated fishermen out there targeting these oversize fish for the thrill of the fight.
I don't think sturgeon are AS TOUGH as people think they are.These fish go under a tremendous amount of stress being hooked,fought,and handled. I have personally found several 6 to 10 footers in the last few years washed in dead from apparently over exhaustion or from being poorly handled
If this continues this fishery will be shut down,,and I think that is why some of us are overly concerned

[Dmanmastertracker]

Do you guys have to question ethics every time anyone posts anything. I for one am really getting tired of it. Seems like it doesn't matter what the topic is, someone has to start complaining.

I think people are overly concerned because sturgeon fishing is a delicate fishery. Nobody has really fished them much until just the last ten years. These oversize spawners are 30-80 years old on average. Sturgeon fishing appears to be very popular sport now with dozens of guides and "a ton" of uneducated fishermen out there targeting these oversize fish for the thrill of the fight.
I don't think sturgeon are AS TOUGH as people think they are.These fish go under a tremendous amount of stress being hooked,fought,and handled. I have personally found several 6 to 10 footers the last few years washed in dead from apparently over exhaustion or from being poorly handled
If this continues this fishery will be shut down,,and I think that is why some of us are overly concerned

Well said. Some don't get these comment's, younger folks that are encouraged by one or two older folks who should know better. I don't blame the young guy, who is learning, but those that encourage unethical behavior by cheering them on, and to the poster that said ethics aren't important, that is the ONLY thing that is important in fishing and hunting. I too have seen these fish washed up on shore. To me it's the equivalent of fishing a closed salmon season, having a photo shoot and calling it a good day, it just isn't done by any of the well-respected guides on the Sound. I feel like I'm trying to do someone a favor and they don't get that. Reputation is everything in guiding, it's the difference between getting new clients, or not.

[bullcanyon]

It is getting kinda old.  If you don't like him.  Avoid him.  You guys that are always on his arse are getting to be more of an annoyance than he is.  Maybe step back and take a look at yourself and figure out why you are so disgruntled.  You gotta have something more positive going on in your lives. You might want to force yourself to take a break from the ol computer for a few days.

[Dmanmastertracker]

 Your off base. I had this person on ignore for over a year and did not even respond to his post's until this one thread for over a year. Know what your talking about before you post.

[luvtohnt]

                        
    
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               Location:  W122°38'24.0", N45°37'48.0",     0m                
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Official sunset was 8:38. If you ever doubt someone all you have to do is save their picture and open it in some kind of picture program and it will give you the time stamp. So either his camera was never changed during daylight savings time or he doesn't know how to read a watch!! Notice in the upper right corner the date and time stamp.


Brandon

[jackelope]

should i start getting the padlock out??