First oversize of 09' !

[boneaddict]

I guess I should have used the word granola crunchin animal hugger, or in this case fish.  You won't catch me at any greenpeace rallies anytime soon, though after seeing the previews of the Whale wars show that's on TV now about them, it does look like fun.  The point is I don't get all worked up or teared up over a fish. This however I think is stupid and what it does serve is alienating or dividing another group and essentially has a guy who tends to hate government involvement, or the closure of things thinking just that.   I am not singling out Hoyt, he is the only one that  I know doing it, and I am certain there are hundreds more guiding down there, this is NUTS.  Yes I'd love to catch one, COOL.  To what cost though.

[PolarBear]

 

[Pathfinder101]

NICE FISH!

[bobcat]

Yeah so whats your point Bobcat? or is it as usual just to stir the pot! 

Yep, just stirring the pot, you got that right.   

[M_ray]

figured as much ... !

[Dmanmastertracker]

 

 http://www.gamefishin.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=13911

[cohoho]

Ding, Ding..... Round #2 without the bikini girls holding cards...

[huntnphool]

 

[HawkenBob]

Just a little input for some who are kind of mixed up, and some who are not...Lol

Sturgeon fishing for OVERSIZE is LEGAL.

There have been a couple hundred guides doing this for at least the last 15 years. They target them, and will tell you that at time of booking even if they dont know your a undercover warden on the phone. Its perfectly legal folks.

Some rules changed just for this, like lifting them out of water. Gone are the days of seeing mamoth fish pulled to the gunnels.

It already is single barbless.

Hoyt is a egomaniac.

Hoyt countradicts himself often.

If you think this is un-ethical and C and R wild fish your a hypocrite period.

Carry on with the soup.

[Dmanmastertracker]

Just a little input for some who are kind of mixed up, and some who are not...Lol

Sturgeon fishing for OVERSIZE is LEGAL.

There have been a couple hundred guides doing this for at least the last 15 years. They target them, and will tell you that at time of booking even if they dont know your a undercover warden on the phone. Its perfectly legal folks.

Some rules changed just for this, like lifting them out of water. Gone are the days of seeing mamoth fish pulled to the gunnels.

It already is single barbless.

Hoyt is a egomaniac.

Hoyt countradicts himself often.

If you think this is un-ethical and C and R wild fish your a hypocrite period.

Carry on with the soup.

 The legality that was questioned was A) time of day and B) taking measurement's out of water. I disagree that one is a hypocrite to release wild fish, while targeting hatchery fish during an open season, say in the case of salmon fishing in the salt. Completely different than going out and seeing how many non-legal fish you can catch and tire them out, mishandle them, then let them go. That's the equivalent of going to a river that produces only wild steelhead, where wild fish are illegal to keep and C&R all day long, no comparison. The Columbia is huge river, clearly there are guys as skilled as Hoyt who can go out and find these fish on a fish finder all day long .

[jackelope]

If you think this is un-ethical and C and R wild fish your a hypocrite period.

apples and oranges...using the same gear in the same water to catch either/or nates or hatchery brats is completely different than using a 5lb shad for bait that pretty much guaranteed is only going to get eaten by an oversized sturgeon. it's legal so it is what it is, but to say someone is a hypocrite for c-n-r'ing wild steelhead on the sky or whatever other river is b.s. IMO. there's a reason most of the "S" rivers are closed right now.

[huntnphool]

 

[HawkenBob]

The reason there closed is because people used to keep them. In super low return rivers its closed now period.

But fishing the Hoh and Queets, Duc or Calawah past mid Jan, Just cause they eat the same exact size bait doesent really change it does it? Its still the same...IMO.

[jackelope]

i completely agree/stand by/support/etc the rivers being closed for nate fishing....i probably wouldn't do it quite honestly. i've never fished a river on the peninsula...ever for anything. the last thing nate steelhead need is an open wild fishery IMO...

[M_ray]

Bob you are right the reason they are closed is because we kept too many and gave away the farm on Netting by Natives and they have the same mentality as the oversized guides at the moment and that is to Cash in on the $$$! So lets keep making the same mistakes!   I do C&R wild Steelhead but I would'nt if it took them 30 years to mature spawning age and if I knew it was going to stress them to the point that they wouldn't spawn after being caught! Maybe you should check out the Wild Steelhead Coalition,  http://wildsteelheadcoalition.org/mission.htm
They have Dr.'s, Lawyers, Scientists, Biologists and some very well respected Professionals that actually have scientific data to support that there are very high rates of wild caught fish that spawn after being handled properly in fact sice the WSC was founded and began studying this the numbers are much higher than previously thought!

 I am a member you should be too!  

He he  that was my best Jim Shockey impersonation  

Hoyt is a egomaniac.

Hoyt countradicts himself often.

Oh and I couldn't agree more!!!