330pm Friday 9/23Commission to talk about spring bear

[Special T]

3:30 pm

Wildlife Committee - Commissioners Thorburn, Smith, Anderson, Rowland (Watch with TVW)
Location:  Ocean Shores Convention Center, Rooms:  Pacific Halls A, B, and D

Agenda topics:
- Spring Bear Policy planning and scheduling
   - Structured-decision making
- Game Management Plan scope and schedule proposal
- General discussion – current events

https://wdfw.wa.gov/about/commission/meetings/2022/22-24sept2022-fwc-agenda

Watch via tvw

https://tvw.org/video/washington-state-department-of-fish-and-wildlife-2022091138/?eventID=2022091138

[follow maggie]

I hope you guys can get it back.

[Tbar]

It was yesterday

[Tbar]

And a nightmare!

[duckmen1]

Commission needs an overhaul. Commission for wildlife and conservation. Not political agenda. We are in a sad state with what is going on and the loss hunters and fisherman keep facing. We have false hope for our state. But some hope is better than no hope. Always pray for a turn around. Try to spread a good word for hunters and fisherman and do our part.

[NRA4LIFE]

And a nightmare!

I'm pretty sure I know the answer, but how bad was it?

[mcrawfordaf]

Lorna thinks we're "way way way way way down the road" on the spring bear subject and is pretty much set in stone that we shouldn't have it.

[WWC]

Here is the recording from TVW.

https://tvw.org/video/washington-state-department-of-fish-and-wildlife-wildlife-committee-2022091137/?eventID=2022091137

[Special T]

I totally read the schedule wrong. I'm gonna listen to the mess online.

[buckfvr]

Commission needs an overhaul. Commission for wildlife and conservation. Not political agenda. We are in a sad state with what is going on and the loss hunters and fisherman keep facing. We have false hope for our state. But some hope is better than no hope. Always pray for a turn around. Try to spread a good word for hunters and fisherman and do our part.

The "state" needs an overhaul.  I have no hope for our state, unless we can unload the corruption of murray, van dewedgie, and insleez.  Folks need to overhaul their voting and move on from status quo and seek honesty for the people not just who votes for you.  If you dont vote for those incumbents, they havent the time of day for you.

You can only be a constituent or the enemy.

[In_Grained_Outdoors]

Kind of funny they hold these meetings right in the middle of the hunting seasons. Almost like they don't want our opinions   

[jrebel]

This meeting is a train wreck....Lorna has made up her mind and she is very clear that it will not change.  She is unwilling and unable to open her mind to any side other than her own....tree hugging, environmental terrorist!!  She is unfit to sit on the commission if she cannot be open minded.  She has contradicted herself multiple times.  These meetings get my blood pressure higher than it needs to be. 

[jrebel]

The body language of the other commissioners when Lorna Smith speaks tells the story.      She is nuts. 

[HillHound]

Me too. I can’t watch her, it is infuriating how close minded she is. If only Rowland and Smith would follow through with their recorded promise of shooting them selves in the head if they were forced to do their job and discuss spring bear season again. If not for the other many reasons that alone, threatening self harm if forced to do your job, In a recorded meeting should get them both kicked off the commission. They are the most unprofessional group of animal rights activists I’ve ever seen.

[Special T]

I could be wrong on this and I'm only 3/4 through listening... but it appears that the Antis are stuck.  They can't won't clarify to make a hard stand for or against spring bear, BECAUSE of thier previous justification of needing more info. They don't want to be put on the record or have a detailed explanation for  voting against spring bear. To me stalling seems like the tactic they are after. Delay seems to be the preferred tactic of anti hunters.

[jrebel]

I could be wrong on this and I'm only 3/4 through listening... but it appears that the Antis are stuck.  They can't won't clarify to make a hard stand for or against spring bear, BECAUSE of thier previous justification of needing more info. They don't want to be put on the record or have a detailed explanation for  voting against spring bear. To me stalling seems like the tactic they are after. Delay seems to be the preferred tactic of anti hunters.

It's either a stall tactic....or they are truly that ignorant that they have no clue what they are doing. 

[Bushcraft]

Commissioner McIsaac's response to Looney Lorna was pure gold.

[Buzz2401]

It really feels like there is no saving this state.  We ignore facts and let our policies be formed by how people feel.

[wheels1]

In the original 5to4  we 2 will never change  but in the scheme of things we have 3 we could  swing  really only need 1 maybe  2