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Re: STOP KILLING THE BABY MAKERS
« Reply #105 on: October 19, 2022, 07:37:10 PM »
Pretty sure putting in for a draw, with the sole intent of stopping others hunters from hunting that draw....is what the anti hunting, bunny hugger, liberal, left wing nuts do.  To me this is nothing more than an intentional act that puts you in the same boat as any anti hunting wing nut out there.  Prove me wrong with your twisted logic.  You don't have to agree like the fact that these doe tags exist, but you should respect that fact that other hunters appreciate the opportunity.  Buying a tag to impose your thoughts and will on others for the sole purpose of taking opportunity away is wrong.  One could argue an act of domestic terrorism....or hunter harassment....which is also illegal. 

And go.....

Holy smokes!
There are so many other things that this post could apply to! Like one party supporting someone in an opposing group to flood and minimize the voting power by having so many candidates!
While it 'may' be a bit harsh, the argument has merit.
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Re: STOP KILLING THE BABY MAKERS
« Reply #106 on: October 19, 2022, 08:08:55 PM »
I wish they would stop giving out for hermits
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Re: STOP KILLING THE BABY MAKERS
« Reply #107 on: October 19, 2022, 08:24:32 PM »
I’m a domestic terrorist now, really JReb, that’s cute

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Re: STOP KILLING THE BABY MAKERS
« Reply #108 on: October 19, 2022, 08:27:53 PM »
8 pages during the middle of modern season and this is where we're at? :chuckle: I agree with bone's mission. There's several units where there should be zero antlerless harvest these days period. WDFW doesn't really care about herd health and that's been proved. There are several units where I feel doe harvest isn't an issue and is controlling herd numbers in a good way. Many of the areas it's detrimental are where predators run wild as mentioned earlier. Again reiterating the point that WDFW doesn't  care when it really boils down to it. Absurd lion populations, record bear populations, thriving coyote populations, abundance of wolves, decimated winter range, urban development, OTC archery, muzzy, rifle deer tags, etc. Allowing doe harvest in many of these area is strictly to gain a dollar in their pocket. It's disgusting and wrong from so many angles in today's world. I could care less if people disagree with this statement, but it's basically facts so carry on........

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Re: STOP KILLING THE BABY MAKERS
« Reply #109 on: October 19, 2022, 08:28:19 PM »
I’m a domestic terrorist now, really JReb, that’s cute
haha that’s some funny sh-t
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Re: STOP KILLING THE BABY MAKERS
« Reply #110 on: October 19, 2022, 08:39:58 PM »
On Whidbey Island we kill does... so some random Chevy or Buick won't.  The island is over run with deer.  We didn't get the big disease kill off like some of the other islands did (that needed it).  But, our "herd" can take it.  Deer are like rats with antlers around here...

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Re: STOP KILLING THE BABY MAKERS
« Reply #111 on: October 19, 2022, 08:40:43 PM »
I’m a domestic terrorist now, really JReb, that’s cute
Careful Biden might send the FBI after you. :chuckle:

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Re: STOP KILLING THE BABY MAKERS
« Reply #112 on: October 19, 2022, 08:46:20 PM »
I’m a domestic terrorist now, really JReb, that’s cute


Just like your original post....I will make it clear that I was not targeting any one person with that statement.  ;)  I was however venting and voicing my opposition to a stance that many have taken.  Though a bit dramatized......I do think the correlation could be made. 

Because you assume I was calling you a terrorist.....lets go down the road that could connect these dots. 
-  If every environmental wingnut spend 13 dollars to draw for quality tags and OIL tags with the sole purpose of depriving you the opportunity to hunt, how would that make you feel?  This topic has come up many times on this forum and it appears most hunters would be apposed at the actions of anti groups doing exactly what you are doing.
-  Do you consider some environmental wingnut, far left wing groups to be domestic terrorists?  You know, the ones who burnt down the street of dreams homes in Snohomish county a few years ago....or the ones that spike trees in hopes of doing harm to loggers, etc. etc. etc. 
-  Could you be associated with said groups if you are buying a tag for the sole purpose of depriving me or my family the opportunity that the state says exists.....right or wrong.  Why do you get to decide right from wrong, or impose your will on me and my family and deprive us (or others that don't share your belief) of what would otherwise be 100% legal?  It could be said that you are depriving a family of nutrition / sustenance.  To say buying beef is cheaper....is not the case for all.   

I will wait for your response.  For the record....I don't believe your a domestic terrorist.  I am simply making a point that buying a tag for the sole purpose of depriving others of the "LEGAL"  opportunity to shoot a doe.....is wrong and could be viewed as hunter harassment.  The domestic terrorist may be a stretch...but it clearly makes a point. 

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Re: STOP KILLING THE BABY MAKERS
« Reply #113 on: October 19, 2022, 08:46:35 PM »
I’m not sure of the last time a killed a doe or cow. Maybe mid 70s for a doe, mid 80s for a cow?  Both for freezer fillers I’m sure.  I’ll pass on both nowadays, it’s much more about the hunt for me.
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Re: STOP KILLING THE BABY MAKERS
« Reply #114 on: October 19, 2022, 09:23:37 PM »
The blame lies squarely with dfw, not the hunters.

Expecting hunters to abstain from filling lawful doe tags is a bit much to ask, especially the weekend warriors who've no idea the year to year population trends. 



I agree with the OP but this is ^^ right... I think most would expect that the WDFW wouldn't do something this stupid as issuing doe tags in areas where the deer are hurting but then again... :( 

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Re: STOP KILLING THE BABY MAKERS
« Reply #115 on: October 19, 2022, 09:29:53 PM »
In the GMU I hunt just these past days I've seen 30+ does,5+ 2 pointers and a handful of spikes not to mention a handful of legal mule deer. Scout around plenty of deer to go around in my opinion. Some people consider road hunting “Hunting “ and then complain they can see no deer from the comfort of their heated seat.

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Re: STOP KILLING THE BABY MAKERS
« Reply #116 on: October 19, 2022, 09:39:34 PM »
:bash:


If you think the population is where it should be then by all means....otherwise YOU are contributing to the problem.  Stop complaining about not seeing anything, stop complaining about Natives, stop complaining about predators.  STOP complaining the WDFW doesn't know what they are doing.  Of course they don't, they issued you a legal permit to do something absolutely DUMB.
The loss of opportunity, well, when they are all gone come on here and whine some more.     
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rant mildly over.   I've avoided trashing anyones post on here by being negative, so I created my own. 
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Re: STOP KILLING THE BABY MAKERS
« Reply #117 on: October 19, 2022, 09:42:24 PM »
:bash:


If you think the population is where it should be then by all means....otherwise YOU are contributing to the problem.  Stop complaining about not seeing anything, stop complaining about Natives, stop complaining about predators.  STOP complaining the WDFW doesn't know what they are doing.  Of course they don't, they issued you a legal permit to do something absolutely DUMB.
The loss of opportunity, well, when they are all gone come on here and whine some more.     
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rant mildly over.   I've avoided trashing anyones post on here by being negative, so I created my own. 
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Amen!! I never understood the mentality of killing does in areas with struggling numbers.

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Re: STOP KILLING THE BABY MAKERS
« Reply #118 on: October 19, 2022, 10:21:42 PM »
“I will wait for your response “…..
Dude, gtfu…. Like bone owes you an explanation. You said something stupid. Get over it and quit trying to say you didn’t say what you did.
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Re: STOP KILLING THE BABY MAKERS
« Reply #119 on: October 19, 2022, 10:29:51 PM »
Why not ban bait and trail cameras in the state.  It would make it more of a hunt.  It would reduce the harvest rate substantially in some areas.  It would also help to not suck the deer on to private properties as some folks have very elaborate baiting stations and many cellular trail cams.
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