STOP KILLING THE BABY MAKERS

[fishngamereaper]

I can't believe so called sportsman are judging and belittling people for their personal and legal harvest choices.
Pathetic.
Pretty sad look for the forum.

Btw I have personally harvested antlerless animals in WA in my 40 year's of hunting.  So put me on top of the "not a sportsman" list.

[jrebel]

I can't believe so called sportsman are judging and belittling people for their personal and legal harvest choices.
Pathetic.
Pretty sad look for the forum.

Btw I have personally harvested antlerless animals in WA in my 40 year's of hunting.  So put me on top of the "not a sportsman" list.

 

I think the majority of hunters / sportsman would fall into this category.  The one's that don't....good on you.  I'm equally as happy that you made the choices you did and only killed bucks.  I bet they were all trophy bucks too because killing one with milk on it's lips would be very unsportsmanlike......(sarcasm) 

[browney5er]

I honestly can’t believe that this is even a topic for discussion between so-called sportsmen in this state. PATHETIC.

Dude, literally half this forum thinks "ghost camps" are ok, an old man who bought a permit and killed a branch antlered bull (400+ ") in a spike only unit was cool, and a kid making grrr-ing noise in a bush was fair game to shoot in the dark.

Don't look to this site as a beacon of good judgement...


That’s been obvious to me for quite some time. Just blows me away what people that call themselves Sportsman are willing to say out loud.

For the record- I am not opposed to killing does if the biology says it is ok



I pretty much said the same thing above. I personally have no desire to shoot a doe but if the herd can handle it or if it is deemed necessary to sustain a healthy herd I have no problems with doe hunts.

[browney5er]

YOU CAN’T FIX STUPID!

[KFhunter]

I can't believe so called sportsman are judging and belittling people for their personal and legal harvest choices.
Pathetic.
Pretty sad look for the forum.

Btw I have personally harvested antlerless animals in WA in my 40 year's of hunting.  So put me on top of the "not a sportsman" list.

 

I think the majority of hunters / sportsman would fall into this category.  The one's that don't....good on you.  I'm equally as happy that you made the choices you did and only killed bucks.  I bet they were all trophy bucks too because killing one with milk on it's lips would be very unsportsmanlike......(sarcasm)

He said he's killed anterless, why the attack?  He's agreed with you since the beginning of this thread         

[jrebel]

I can't believe so called sportsman are judging and belittling people for their personal and legal harvest choices.
Pathetic.
Pretty sad look for the forum.

Btw I have personally harvested antlerless animals in WA in my 40 year's of hunting.  So put me on top of the "not a sportsman" list.

 

I think the majority of hunters / sportsman would fall into this category.  The one's that don't....good on you.  I'm equally as happy that you made the choices you did and only killed bucks.  I bet they were all trophy bucks too because killing one with milk on it's lips would be very unsportsmanlike......(sarcasm)

He said he's killed anterless, why the attack?  He's agreed with you     

I’m agreeing with him.  I’m disagreeing with the guy (s) making statements about people who kill does…not being sportsmen.   Maybe could have worded it different.   The guys that only kill bucks are awesome…especially if they are only killing mature bucks.  My guess is this is not the case.  They have likely killed small bucks which is where the sarcasm came into play.   

100% agree with fiahandgamereaper. 

[KFhunter]

gotcha

As a youth if I brought home anything bigger than a forkie I got chewed out by pops   

"why'd you bring that old nasty thing home for?!"

[Lapua07]

Bone,

Please continue to post pictures of big muleys. I don't see them any more. Regardless of what wdfw,natives, predators....are doing.. I hardly post or login to argue anymore. I don't have the time. Between kids work and maintaining cows I'm about to buy a camera myself. Opinions are like the hind end of political ideals.. no need to say anything more. I'm just happy to be in the mountains.

[Jake Dogfish]

I tend to agree with the OP.
The wdfw is promoting predators and it is inhumane to starve them.  You never hear that at commission meetings.

[boneaddict]

Going to try Lapua. Thank you.  It gets harder every year.

I know the predator agenda has a lot to do with all this Jake.  My Dad talked about this as far back as I can remember. 

[Onewhohikes]

I will have to agree with the OP in that there is way too many doe tags given out when you count all the different groups. No to say that's a blanket statement for all areas like the islands. It just seems that cutting back for a while until some kind of rebuilding should be in order. That combined with predator control seem to be the best avenue. I just know that in areas like the Methow a person used to seen tons of doe and to go out and not see a single one in the high country is rediculous. Not everyone has the ability/time to hunt predators, and we can't hunt wolves. I believe reducing/eliminating doe permits along with predator control is the key. Something has to be done because we are on a slippery slope to non existence. If you were to look at the overall Helecopter deer survey numbers for units they do them in you would be astonished by the low deer population. Hunters are the true conservationists but sometimes we don't act like it.

[boneaddict]

Perfectly said.

[LDennis24]

I will have to agree with the OP in that there is way too many doe tags given out when you count all the different groups. No to say that's a blanket statement for all areas like the islands. It just seems that cutting back for a while until some kind of rebuilding should be in order. That combined with predator control seem to be the best avenue. I just know that in areas like the Methow a person used to seen tons of doe and to go out and not see a single one in the high country is rediculous. Not everyone has the ability/time to hunt predators, and we can't hunt wolves. I believe reducing/eliminating doe permits along with predator control is the key. Something has to be done because we are on a slippery slope to non existence. If you were to look at the overall Helecopter deer survey numbers for units they do them in you would be astonished by the low deer population. Hunters are the true conservationists but sometimes we don't act like it.

Of course not! I'm only here to brag about what benefits me and mine... I shoot cow elk but don't see the purpose in shooting a doe. I hardly shoot bucks half the time unless it's huge cuz I focus on elk hunting. Maybe just shut down all mule deer hunting West of the Columbia for about 5-6 years. That would help a bit. 

[NOCK NOCK]

This has been a great discussion.

I think most can agree alot of herds are down in population.

Deer survival is what is needed to improve herds, not just does, bucks too, it does take 2 to tango. 

Why can we not get behind and support improvements that do not involve loss of opportunity?

#1 Multi-season permits should be gone.

#2 Better protection of wintering grounds. Ever seen how many deer get killed on the Wenatchee-Cash.-L Town Hwy?  Wildlife fencing would
     ease this loss ***BTW, nobody is maintaining the Swak sheep fence, it worked at the start, but now with all the holes in it sheep are getting
     on the road constantly and getting hit.

#3 Kill more predators, its hard hunting, but ya got to be out there.

#4 Shorten Archery season, and make OTC antlerless units draw only with limited permits. (I hunt archery and am willing to give this up for my
     user group) IF

#5 Make modern season a touch bit earlier, or shorter. Just like this year with snow coming during the season, it happens most years, puts deer
     on the move and makes them easier to see.

#6 Legislate/Enlighten/Inform/ of Native hunting that is not science/quantity/monitored properly.

I could go on, but you should get the idea here............ALL of the above would have a positive effect on the herds population. Lets try every thing possible before we take away opportunity from anyone who just wants to kill a deer (doe) Some folks are not able to hunt easily to be able to do what is needed to kill a buck.

[NOCK NOCK]

I will have to agree with the OP in that there is way too many doe tags given out when you count all the different groups. No to say that's a blanket statement for all areas like the islands. It just seems that cutting back for a while until some kind of rebuilding should be in order. That combined with predator control seem to be the best avenue. I just know that in areas like the Methow a person used to seen tons of doe and to go out and not see a single one in the high country is rediculous. Not everyone has the ability/time to hunt predators, and we can't hunt wolves. I believe reducing/eliminating doe permits along with predator control is the key. Something has to be done because we are on a slippery slope to non existence. If you were to look at the overall Helecopter deer survey numbers for units they do them in you would be astonished by the low deer population. Hunters are the true conservationists but sometimes we don't act like it.

Of course not! I'm only here to brag about what benefits me and mine... I shoot cow elk but don't see the purpose in shooting a doe. I hardly shoot bucks half the time unless it's huge cuz I focus on elk hunting. Maybe just shut down all mule deer hunting West of the Columbia for about 5-6 years. That would help a bit. 

That would do dangerous things to the blacktail population.