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Has anybody produced 270 reduce recoil loads for the youth? If so, what was the recoil like after development?
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I followed this for .243 and it's pretty awesome. My son really likes shooting the reduced recoil if we are doing longer range sessions and then switches back to hunting loads to zero and hunt.
https://hodgdon.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/trail-boss-reduced-loads-2018.pdf
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Lots of options depending on how little recoil you want. You could just go with a faster burning powder such as IMR 4064 or Reloder 15 and use the minimum starting load.
Or for even more reduction in recoil use an even faster powder. I had good luck with IMR 4227 for my daughter's 7mm-08. It would also work well in the 270. Another good powder to try is IMR3031.
Here's an article that might help:
https://www.handloadermagazine.com/reduced-rifle-loads
And some Speer data, see the IMR 4064 and Reloder 15 data at the bottom of the sheet.
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Re: 270 reduced recoil loads
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Good info from bobcat. Read the linked article. I usually use h/imr 4895 at 60% of the published max and work up to acceptable groups. Older manuals seem have more imr data. I have used imr 4198 when my dad broke his shoulder but I can’t find that recipe.
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Re: 270 reduced recoil loads
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Another idea would be to load some light mono bullets. I’ve loaded 110gr Barnes TTSX bullets for my .270 and at 3000fps they’re pretty light kicking (I prefer to duplicate .257 weatherby ballistics by pushing them to 3500 though…)
Barnes also makes a 95gr TTSX in this caliber, loaded with a light charge of faster burning powder, it would be like shooting a .243.
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Re: 270 reduced recoil loads
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I've done some low recoil experimenting with various calibers (though not 270).
Not filling the case with powder can cause major burn rate inconsistencies with some powders. The powder will burn different if the powder is all at the back of the case against the primer, or if it's spread out across the bottom of the case, or all in the front of the case against the bullet. I noticed this significantly when using about 3.5 grains of titegroup behind a 55 grain FMJ bullet (this was a subsonic load published on HODGEON site). I was shooting 7" groups at 50 yards and could hear audible differences between shots.
Trailboss is great because a full case of it usually produces near subsonic velocity in many calibers and bullet weights (~800-1500 fps). I have read that trailboss lacks a lubricant in the powder so your barrel may foul quicker.
I've had good success with low charges of BlueDot powder in a 223, based on data provided on the internet by a guy who goes by the name of "seafire" on some forums. Some people swear by his loads, some people swear at him for his loads. Seafire tested and posted load data and results using bluedot in some other calibers also. I don't remember if he published data for 270 win, but I think i remember seeing data for 30-06 which is about the same. For my 223 i'm using 11 grains of bluedot behind a 50 grain v-max and it is going 2500 fps and no pressure signs on the cases. Reduced recoil and reduced noise. Also less heat generated in the barrel. Last group I shot was 3 shots in 3/4" at 70 yds with a cheap scope. Good enough for coyotes around the house.
Also, a muzzle brake or suppressor will reduce recoil in any rifle.
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Re: 270 reduced recoil loads
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I started my son out with a 270 for his first rifle at 12 years old using 110 gr bullets and H4895 that was very light recoiling. Here is a link from Hodgen on reduced loads with 4895https://imrpowder.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/h4895-reduced-rifle-loads.pdf
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You might also consider a muzzle brake. Installed correctly (by a gunsmith) it will reduce recoil substantially. Using a muzzle brake has a very minimal effect on accuracy and will allow your young person to practice with the same ammunition he or she will hunt with.
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light bullets and slow it down.. should be able to push recoil down to near 10#ish...that is below most light 20ga shotgun loads if your kid is shooting one of those now... you will need to hunt and peck to find load the rifle likes as far as reasonable accuracy, or maybe you will get lucky and the gun will like whatever you press for it...
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When my son started hunting at age 10 I used 15grs of TrailBoss behind a 130gr Speer HotCor for training loads. There is almost zero recoil. For his hunting loads I used 41.0 grains of RL15 and the same bullets. He’s killed two bucks with that load. One WT one muley. Both very large mature bucks. Both pass through shots.
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Re: 270 reduced recoil loads
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If you want the lightest recoil possible, trail boss and the lightest bullet you can find can't be beat. You can work up from there if you want.
If you just want to tame it a bit, many other options exist as mentioned above.
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