Spotters over 60 zoom

[Iveexcaped3]

I’m heavily considering getting a quality spotter (buy once cry once kind) for those of you that have experience with them what’s your take. Ive looked at the Swaro’s and zeiss. Any other companies I’m maybe missing? A lot of the areas I’m glassing is 1-2 miles so the extra zoom will help a lot

[huntnfmly]

Vortex razor line very good glass and some people cannot tell the difference between them and the really high end optics but then some people can and they will pay the difference
Do yourself a favor and look thru both don’t forget leupold gold ring models  as well

[Iveexcaped3]

Vortex razor line very good glass and some people cannot tell the difference between them and the really high end optics but then some people can and they will pay the difference
Do yourself a favor and look thru both don’t forget leupold gold ring models  as well

Neither company offers past 60 zoom, thanks though

[huntnfmly]

Vortex razor line very good glass and some people cannot tell the difference between them and the really high end optics but then some people can and they will pay the difference
Do yourself a favor and look thru both don’t forget leupold gold ring models  as well

Neither company offers past 60 zoom, thanks though

Whoops my bad I was thinking 60mm objective I guess the word zoom in the title should have given me a clue lol 😂

[Crunchy]

I have a swaro 20-60x65 spotter and rarely do I ever zoom much further than 35ish.  If I had to do it over again I would get the wide angle zoom 25-50 I think it is.  I am usually glassing in the 400-800 yard range.

[pickardjw]

Kowa has a 30x-70x eyepiece.

Agree with Crunchy though. Are you trying to actively glass at 60x or just get a better look at something after spotting at a lower power?

[cwuhunter]

There is a reason vortex is 1/3 of the price of Swaro, Leica, ZEISS….

[Iveexcaped3]

Kowa has a 30x-70x eyepiece.

Agree with Crunchy though. Are you trying to actively glass at 60x or just get a better look at something after spotting at a lower power?

I’m constantly needing more. I’m spotting at 1300+ the 70 will help with the distance

[jackelope]

More than likely you won’t be able to effectively use all 60x of zoom.

[pickardjw]

https://shop.gohunt.com/collections/spotting-scopes/products/kowa-tsn-99a-prominar-pure-fluorite-angled-spotting-scope-with-te-11wz-ii-zoom-eyepiece?_pos=5&_fid=fe165614b&_ss=c

Send an email to Cody at gohunt if you want a professional opinion as well. He helped me with some optics questions, guy knows his stuff. Or Doug at CameralandNY

[GWP]

I agree that unless you spend top dollar for the biggest objective you can get, actually, not even then, the 60 will be pretty compromised.
Every high powered optic I have looked through gets ‘iffy’ on details and brightness, the higher power you go to. Back it off some and it actually better on detail.
If possible, go try some. Store, someone that has one, and see what you think.
Trying a set of Swarovski binocs sure ruined me for Leupold Gold Rings. Leupold’s are pretty nice. Swarovski’s are WONDERFUL.

[Bob33]

Exit pupils get pretty small at magnifications over 60x. Even with a 100mm objective the exit pupil at 60x is only 1.6mm. That's a pretty small beam which means limited light transmission and the need to be perfectly centered behind the eyepiece. Add in heat mirage and the need to keep the optic perfectly still and it's a real challenge. I'd be looking at Swarovski's 115mm objective module if you really want magnification that high.

[millerwheeler]

Vortex razor line very good glass and some people cannot tell the difference between them and the really high end optics but then some people can and they will pay the difference
Do yourself a favor and look thru both don’t forget leupold gold ring models  as well

The difference is night and day anyone that says they can’t tell the difference is  lying to themselves

[Taco280AI]

If you're not willing to drop the $$$$ on Swaro, do yourself a favor by not looking through them. Once you do, thar will be all you want.

[tsgman]

I sat side by side with a Swaro 20-60 x80, 20-65 Vortex razor,  and a Vangaurd 15-45x65 a few weeks ago while looking for a spotter to purchase.   The step up in view is noticeable for each step up in glass, but the comfort on they eye is almost more noticeable to me.  Eye fatigue gets to a person pretty quickly with cheap glass.  Swaros feel like awe, home.  Vortex is like a paper cut annoyance after a bit,  and the Vangaurd was more uncomfortable.   

I ended up with a Kowa 883 with the TZ11 wide angle eye piece.  It feels like home too.  They are highly rated,  and I have never heard them compared to as inferior to Swaros.  Kowa is worth checking out.

Mirage will effect your ability to glass long range before your spotters magnification usually. 

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[Magnum_Willys]

Check out the Maven 80mm
Better than Swaro 65mm in clarity and brightness and weight close.

50 zoom is plenty.   65mm if packing, otherwise 80-90mm

[fowl smacker]

Just looked through Maven Swarovski, Leupold, and ended up with a Vortex Razor 27-60x85.  I determined it to be the best bang for my buck.

[MtnMuley]

I run the Swaro 30-70 eyepiece on the 95mm and BTX on the 115mm. There's very little difference between the 95 and 115 when using the eye piece. However, the 115 gathers noticeably more light than the 95 with the BTX. I run my magnification up to 70 all the time with the 95mm and don't have issues with clarity in most lighting situations. The only time I run into clarity issues is if I add the extender. You need good lighting conditions then.

[Magnum_Willys]

Muley: If you could only keep one ? 95 or 115 ? Eyepiece or BTX? Thinking about going to 17-40 for packing and swap 65 for bigger for truck work.

[Ironhead]

I also have a Swaro 95 with a 30-70 eye piece. You can definitely run it up to 70 power without clarity issues.

[Benny]

100%. If the air is good 70x is perfect clarity. 95 is a big dog though. You’ll know it’s in your pack! But it is so good I end up packing it more than the 65.

[MtnMuley]

Muley: If you could only keep one ? 95 or 115 ? Eyepiece or BTX? Thinking about going to 17-40 for packing and swap 65 for bigger for truck work.

Definitely the 95. I use the eyepiece a lot more than the BTX, and do a lot of glassing with the 15's or NL12's.

[Magnum_Willys]

Thk u! Yea the NL 12’s are so nice I’m dragging feet on going to ranging binos but the remote targeting feature is tough to pass up.

[WAcoueshunter]

Thk u! Yea the NL 12’s are so nice I’m dragging feet on going to ranging binos but the remote targeting feature is tough to pass up.

For many years, I've carried both 10x on my chest and 15x in my pack.  The NL 12s took their place, and do both jobs very well.  They are pretty amazing.  Allows me to not worry as much about the weight and space of the big glass in my pack. 

[X-Force]

Just looked through Maven Swarovski, Leupold, and ended up with a Vortex Razor 27-60x85.  I determined it to be the best bang for my buck.

What kind of light conditions were you in?

I’ve looked through the same and maven really stood out, especially the last 15-20 min of shooting light.

[Iveexcaped3]

I run the Swaro 30-70 eyepiece on the 95mm and BTX on the 115mm. There's very little difference between the 95 and 115 when using the eye piece. However, the 115 gathers noticeably more light than the 95 with the BTX. I run my magnification up to 70 all the time with the 95mm and don't have issues with clarity in most lighting situations. The only time I run into clarity issues is if I add the extender. You need good lighting conditions then.

Thank you, someone that understood what I was asking. I was thinking hard about the swaro’s and wondered if the additional 20mm is worth the extra $1500. I’d definitely be going the eye piece route, personally not a fan of the btx.

[BKMFR]

I use a Swarovski 20-60 eye piece, 1.7x magnifier, and a 95 obj.... works great when heat isn't an issue.

[fowl smacker]

Just looked through Maven Swarovski, Leupold, and ended up with a Vortex Razor 27-60x85.  I determined it to be the best bang for my buck.

What kind of light conditions were you in?

I’ve looked through the same and maven really stood out, especially the last 15-20 min of shooting light.

Overcast 8am-ish Not first light, but not fully light. 

[Magnum_Willys]

Yea Maven blew my 65 Swaro away.  I was looking at bodies thru Swaro and counting points with Maven.

[Magnum_Willys]

I use a Swarovski 20-60 eye piece, 1.7x magnifier, and a 95 obj.... works great when heat isn't an issue.

Can you run a 20-60 by itself on a 95ATX, or does it become a 30-70 on the 95 I think???

[huntandjeep]

I have a swaro 20-60x65 spotter and rarely do I ever zoom much further than 35ish.  If I had to do it over again I would get the wide angle zoom 25-50 I think it is.  I am usually glassing in the 400-800 yard range.

I started with a 20x60 eyepiece on My Swarovski , then bought the 25x50 Wide angle. Glad I did . The 25 stays on the scope 95% of the time

[Benny]

I must be the minority. If I could have 500x on a scope I would 

[pickardjw]

I must be the minority. If I could have 500x on a scope I would 

https://optcorp.com/products/celestron-cpc-deluxe-1100-hd-telescope?gclid=Cj0KCQjwk5ibBhDqARIsACzmgLQHaKwPbqvXTa-adEEFWJkaj1ghPYQE1j1Uz_nYor0G4lTwInCA9b0aAtbuEALw_wcB

Might be a bit heavy to pack in but spotting deer on Mars should be a breeze