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Re: Legal spike?
« Reply #30 on: November 07, 2022, 10:13:01 AM »
I would shoot. That is a nub, not a point.
It looks to me like it’s a broken off point. And if it’s 1” long, it could be an expensive “nub.” Or cost you a few years of hunting privileges.

If it was the plus one on a 6 x 6 bull, most hunters would be calling it a 6 x 7!

Those are also the same guys that count eyeguards on Blacktail and Mulies. There is no game warden out there that would push the issue on this bull.
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Re: Legal spike?
« Reply #31 on: November 07, 2022, 10:32:12 AM »
I would shoot. That is a nub, not a point.
It looks to me like it’s a broken off point. And if it’s 1” long, it could be an expensive “nub.” Or cost you a few years of hunting privileges.

If it was the plus one on a 6 x 6 bull, most hunters would be calling it a 6 x 7!

Those are also the same guys that count eyeguards on Blacktail and Mulies. There is no game warden out there that would push the issue on this bull.
Sounds like a gamble you are willing to take but I would not be!

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Re: Legal spike?
« Reply #32 on: November 07, 2022, 10:43:39 AM »
I would shoot. That is a nub, not a point.
It looks to me like it’s a broken off point. And if it’s 1” long, it could be an expensive “nub.” Or cost you a few years of hunting privileges.

If it was the plus one on a 6 x 6 bull, most hunters would be calling it a 6 x 7!

Those are also the same guys that count eyeguards on Blacktail and Mulies. There is no game warden out there that would push the issue on this bull.

I was under the impression that "eyeguards", or brow tines, are counted as  G1s when scoring mule deer or blacktails.
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Re: Legal spike?
« Reply #33 on: November 07, 2022, 10:55:55 AM »
That's actually one where your likely to get written up on. Looks longer than an inch. And...
Allot of wardens will be suspicious that you broke the tip off after harvest hoping to get around the rule... :twocents:

Btw it happens fairly often.

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Re: Legal spike?
« Reply #34 on: November 07, 2022, 11:11:21 AM »
Not worth the anxt for me. I know some guys don’t seem to mInd but I doubt I would be able to get over the worry of losing privileges over something like that
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Re: Legal spike?
« Reply #35 on: November 07, 2022, 11:44:37 AM »
That's actually one where your likely to get written up on. Looks longer than an inch. And...
Allot of wardens will be suspicious that you broke the tip off after harvest hoping to get around the rule... :twocents:

Btw it happens fairly often.

Sorry about the pun but that’s a good point didn’t even think about that👍
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Re: Legal spike?
« Reply #36 on: November 07, 2022, 12:12:41 PM »
Easy pass, not legal.. :beatdeadhorse:

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Re: Legal spike?
« Reply #37 on: November 07, 2022, 12:35:58 PM »
Years ago pre covid when game wardens were seen more often had some friends in the clockum who had game wardens check them and everyone constantly. Wardens were so upset people couldn't tell a true spike they even told them wish no one was allowed to hunt them.. these wardens would be ticketing u and potentially taking property for that one is what he told me.

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Re: Legal spike?
« Reply #38 on: November 07, 2022, 12:52:20 PM »
He really should be removed from the gene pool.

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Re: Legal spike?
« Reply #39 on: November 07, 2022, 01:18:14 PM »
I'm baffled by how people justify there decision......Not saying I am right or wrong, I'm just not willing to gamble it being less than an inch.  It is for sure a protrusion / point coming off the main beam.  Based on how WDFW measures the total length of the point....I have to believe it would be an inch long, but maybe not. 

The red line would have to under 1" long based on my knowledge of the law.   :dunno:


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Re: Legal spike?
« Reply #40 on: November 07, 2022, 05:23:43 PM »
I know lots of guys that would see this same “nub”  on a buck and count that as being an antler point to make something legal to shoot. Then you got the same guys not counting this spike as having a point so they can make that legal to shoot.

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Re: Legal spike?
« Reply #41 on: November 07, 2022, 06:47:13 PM »
I'm baffled by how people justify there decision......Not saying I am right or wrong, I'm just not willing to gamble it being less than an inch.  It is for sure a protrusion / point coming off the main beam.  Based on how WDFW measures the total length of the point....I have to believe it would be an inch long, but maybe not. 

The red line would have to under 1" long based on my knowledge of the law.   :dunno:

Your red line is not in the correct spot and is about 25% longer then that point really is but I agree the point looks like more then an inch. I think whether or not you’re getting a ticket is 50/50 as that’s clearly a spike but it’s a 2x2 spike. And at the discretion of the officer. You’re gambling on the officers attitude not so much on if that’s a 1x2.

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Re: Legal spike?
« Reply #42 on: November 07, 2022, 06:59:44 PM »
2x2 all day , unless you packing a sander LOL that’s an inch easy

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Re: Legal spike?
« Reply #43 on: November 07, 2022, 07:14:03 PM »
I'm baffled by how people justify there decision......Not saying I am right or wrong, I'm just not willing to gamble it being less than an inch.  It is for sure a protrusion / point coming off the main beam.  Based on how WDFW measures the total length of the point....I have to believe it would be an inch long, but maybe not. 

The red line would have to under 1" long based on my knowledge of the law.   :dunno:

Your red line is not in the correct spot and is about 25% longer then that point really is but I agree the point looks like more then an inch. I think whether or not you’re getting a ticket is 50/50 as that’s clearly a spike but it’s a 2x2 spike. And at the discretion of the officer. You’re gambling on the officers attitude not so much on if that’s a 1x2.

My black line is curved.....that because my mouse pad on my laptop and my fingers cant draw a straight line.  according to the WDFW the black line should connect where the protrusion meets the main beam on both sides and that would be your starting point...regardless of where you start the red line.  In my mind it is clearly an inch....but I agree it without having a dead elk, it would be impossible to know for sure. 


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Re: Legal spike?
« Reply #44 on: November 07, 2022, 07:15:25 PM »
Three pages later, with the benefit of videos and enlargements there is still disagreement about the length. In a real world situation where the decision needs to be made quickly it would be really tough to determine if it exceeds an inch.
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