Don McIsaac resigns from the Commission

[GASoline71]

  How could anyone have hope??  We live in a Blue state, ran by the WORST Governor ever if you're a true outdoorsman. Looking back at what has transpired, it's all been planned. Starting back to outlawing dogs for cats and bears. They have been slowly and methodically picking and implementing regulations that would one day set up their big plan. Everything that is now in place cannot be changed, like hound hunting. So, since the predators are here to stay, their only argument for "saving" the deer, elk, and fish population is to ban all hunting. I've seen it coming for so long, and people looked at me like I was a conspiracy theorist. These peolpe pushing this stuff truly dont care about our game population, they care about being antihunting. So, if they dont see first hand how predators effect our game, its worth it to them if it means banning hunting.

The state never "outlawed" hound hunting and baiting for bears.  That was done by a ballot initiative in 1996 that had a very well put together and misleading ad campaign by multiple anti-hunting and AR groups.  Groups which some of the current commission members are proponents of to this day.  That's why it's so hard to get that law changed.  It would take another ballot initiative to be voted on "by the people" to overturn it.  Which it would never fly in this state as now there are too many bleeding hearts that have no clue as to how real game management should be done for any species.

Gary

[buckfvr]

His term ends at the end of the year. Not much of a resignation, more like a "don't reappoint me.."

First sentence "conveys my resignation", twist it how ever you want.   

[furbearer365]

  How could anyone have hope??  We live in a Blue state, ran by the WORST Governor ever if you're a true outdoorsman. Looking back at what has transpired, it's all been planned. Starting back to outlawing dogs for cats and bears. They have been slowly and methodically picking and implementing regulations that would one day set up their big plan. Everything that is now in place cannot be changed, like hound hunting. So, since the predators are here to stay, their only argument for "saving" the deer, elk, and fish population is to ban all hunting. I've seen it coming for so long, Not a valid gifv URL people looked at me like I was a conspiracy theorist. These peolpe pushing this stuff truly dont care about our game population, they care about being antihunting. So, if they dont see first hand how predators effect our game, its worth it to them if it means banning hunting.

The state never "outlawed" hound hunting and baiting for bears.  That was done by a ballot initiative in 1996 that had a very well put together and misleading ad campaign by multiple anti-hunting and AR groups.  Groups which some of the current commission members are proponents of to this day.  That's why it's so hard to get that law changed.  It would take another ballot initiative to be voted on "by the people" to overturn it.  Which it would never fly in this state as now there are too many bleeding hearts that have no clue as to how real game management should be done for any species.

Gary

I didn't say the Commission outlawed it, I just simply said that it was outlawed. I know is was a vote, thats also why I said it won't be changed, because we won't get a vote to overturn it. I literally said "Everything in place cannot be changed" because it would have to come to a vote, which will never happen

[furbearer365]

  How could anyone have hope??  We live in a Blue state, ran by the WORST Governor ever if you're a true outdoorsman. Looking back at what has transpired, it's all been planned. Starting back to outlawing dogs for cats and bears. They have been slowly and methodically picking and implementing regulations that would one day set up their big plan. Everything that is now in place cannot be changed, like hound hunting. So, since the predators are here to stay, their only argument for "saving" the deer, elk, and fish population is to ban all hunting. I've seen it coming for so long, Not a valid gifv URL people looked at me like I was a conspiracy theorist. These peolpe pushing this stuff truly dont care about our game population, they care about being antihunting. So, if they dont see first hand how predators effect our game, its worth it to them if it means banning hunting.

The state never "outlawed" hound hunting and baiting for bears.  That was done by a ballot initiative in 1996 that had a very well put together and misleading ad campaign by multiple anti-hunting and AR groups.  Groups which some of the current commission members are proponents of to this day.  That's why it's so hard to get that law changed.  It would take another ballot initiative to be voted on "by the people" to overturn it.  Which it would never fly in this state as now there are too many bleeding hearts that have no clue as to how real game management should be done for any species.

Gary

I didn't say the Commission outlawed it, I just simply said that it was outlawed. I know is was a vote, thats also why I said it won't be changed, because we won't get a vote to overturn it. I literally said "Everything in place cannot be changed" because it would have to come to a vote, which will never happen, because we live in a Blue state and have the worst Gov if you are a Outdoorsman.

[wags]

So who is going to fund the department after they get rid of all consumptive use; both fish and animals?
Also, who is going to get into the enforcement end of things if they do find funding. I believe that enforcement folks are still by and large hunters or at least aren't antis. I can't really see the tofu eaters becoming enforcement officers, going out into the woods to try to catch gun carrying folks.
 
It will end up in the same condition as Kenya where no hunting is allowed. Since there will be no legal hunting, it will become a free-for-all with little enforcement. Not good for the wildlife. 

[BNAElkhntr]

So who is going to fund the department after they get rid of all consumptive use; both fish and animals?
Also, who is going to get into the enforcement end of things if they do find funding. I believe that enforcement folks are still by and large hunters or at least aren't antis. I can't really see the tofu eaters becoming enforcement officers, going out into the woods to try to catch gun carrying folks.
 
It will end up in the same condition as Kenya where no hunting is allowed. Since there will be no legal hunting, it will become a free-for-all with little enforcement. Not good for the wildlife.

EXACTLY!

[Platensek-po]

So who is going to fund the department after they get rid of all consumptive use; both fish and animals?
Also, who is going to get into the enforcement end of things if they do find funding. I believe that enforcement folks are still by and large hunters or at least aren't antis. I can't really see the tofu eaters becoming enforcement officers, going out into the woods to try to catch gun carrying folks.
 
It will end up in the same condition as Kenya where no hunting is allowed. Since there will be no legal hunting, it will become a free-for-all with little enforcement. Not good for the wildlife.

This is what I think as well

[Bob33]

Here is an interesting view on the future of hunting.

https://www.npr.org/2018/03/20/593001800/decline-in-hunters-threatens-how-u-s-pays-for-conservation

[dwtraut7]

That’s an interesting article. My concern is that as fewer hunters leads to lower revenues, it leads to other sources of funding which leads to less of a voice for hunters. After watching this week’s meeting I’m not sure how much less of a voice we could have though.

[85yota]

This may not be the right place, but could we try to get rhe innitiave banning hound hunting back to a vote? Get big donors to spend tons of ad revenue in seattle showing all the positives etc and the benefit to wildlife?

[bigtex]

This may not be the right place, but could we try to get rhe innitiave banning hound hunting back to a vote? Get big donors to spend tons of ad revenue in seattle showing all the positives etc and the benefit to wildlife?

I'd bet pretty good money that there are more people opposed to hound hunting in WA in 2022 then there were almost 30 years ago when the initiative passed.

[GOcougsHunter]

This may not be the right place, but could we try to get rhe innitiave banning hound hunting back to a vote? Get big donors to spend tons of ad revenue in seattle showing all the positives etc and the benefit to wildlife?

I'd bet pretty good money that there are more people opposed to hound hunting in WA in 2022 then there were almost 30 years ago when the initiative passed.

The initiative process is a populist idea that moves law by opinion rather than logic, science, or anything else.   Our state and country are now fueled by populist ideas where now all of a sudden, everyone is an expert and their opinion matters even if the subject or issue has no affect on their personal life.  We disregard the true professionals over ill informed opinion and how things "feel."  Sadly, An initiative reversal of hounds and bait will never happen in this state. 

[callturner]

First and foremost, we need to get rid of Inslee and Fergason. We need friendly people to our cause. We will never get anywhere with the likes of them in office. Then we at least have a chance to work on seasons and laws. Now is the time to start promoting a new Governer and AG.

[chukarchaser]

From what I have heard Inslee is not likely to run but his ego may force him to.  Side show Bob and Franz have been actively courting the base and are both well positioned to run. 

[Cougartail]

Many hunters did not support trappers and I heard a few say it should be banned.

In 1996 I new it was over.