Wyoming Elk 2023

[Jpmiller]

Thanks!

[Stein]

There are cow tags that are reduced price (Type 6,7) and then there are cow tags that are full price. (Type 4)

Full price elk tags use points, reduced price elk tags do not.

I was almost right!

Looks like there is a full price type 5 cow as well.

[dvolmer]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1IrrbYC1aM8

[Ghost Hunter]

In for a random.    Better odds than WA.   

[dvolmer]

In for a random.    Better odds than WA. 

We are to the point here in Washington that a general elk tag in Wyoming offers better opportunity, quality, and success than pretty much all of the special permit bull tags here in Washington and probably 80% better than the Quality special permits. I would take a general Wyoming elk tag over a Washington state Blue Mt Watershed tag now. 10 years ago that wasn't the case but it is now. There still are a handful of Washington quality tags that are better but they are dwindling quickly and the quota for these tags are getting less and less every year with some of them just offering one or two tags.  This is so us idiots here in Washington will keep applying and spending our money they want so badly.  You can apply for 20 year plus in Washington for a bull tag or a quality bull tag and when drawn find out the quality has went into the toilet, or you can apply for Wyoming general elk and draw every 4 to 5 years and have a better experience.  Not only that, you get to hunt big bulls 4 times in 20 years instead of possibly once in a lifetime or maybe never here in Washington.

[Stein]

Agreed, except you aren't going to draw a blues tag every 20 years on average anymore.   You only have a 1.3% chance of drawing Dayton rifle with 20 pts.

If you started today and the odds didn't ever go down, you would have a 9.2% combined chance of drawing the tag if you apply every year for 20 years.

Max points of 26 (in 2021), you have a 2.1% chance of drawing.

[dilleytech]

In for a random.    Better odds than WA. 

We are to the point here in Washington that a general elk tag in Wyoming offers better opportunity, quality, and success than pretty much all of the special permit bull tags here in Washington and probably 80% better than the Quality special permits. I would take a general Wyoming elk tag over a Washington state Blue Mt Watershed tag now. 10 years ago that wasn't the case but it is now. There still are a handful of Washington quality tags that are better but they are dwindling quickly and the quota for these tags are getting less and less every year with some of them just offering one or two tags.  This is so us idiots here in Washington will keep applying and spending our money they want so badly.  You can apply for 20 year plus in Washington for a bull tag or a quality bull tag and when drawn find out the quality has went into the toilet, or you can apply for Wyoming general elk and draw every 4 to 5 years and have a better experience.  Not only that, you get to hunt big bulls 4 times in 20 years instead of possibly once in a lifetime or maybe never here in Washington.

And you can get a cow tag basically every year in wyoming if you just want to kill an elk every year.

[Karl Blanchard]

At least the special fee increase for 2024 was shot down. Maybe now 2023 draws won't get turned on its head.

[dilleytech]

At least the special fee increase for 2024 was shot down. Maybe now 2023 draws won't get turned on its head.

But randy newburger said!!!

[Beastmonger1987]

This Florida import to heading to Wyoming this fall! First real Western hunting experience, I've been bumbling around Olympic National Forest getting humbled by blacktails this past season.  Everything is pretty different from sitting in a box blind over a food plot! Hitching a ride with my stepfather's bull hunt in Unit 23. We are going guided. He's burning his 12 points and I'm going to try and take a cow elk and pronghorn while he's looking for a big bull. Hoping to bring 200+ lbs of meat home to the freezer! I'm stuck at 3 points right now, will be looking to burn on the general elk tag in the coming years. Good luck to those in the draw!

12 points wont guarantee your father a bull tag in 23 this year.  I think he is in the running with those points but no guarantee at all. Last year with his 11 points he would have been successful. This year a lot of things can and will change.  Good luck!  By the way, you will need 7 plus points to get an antelope tag with a 27% chance of getting a dow antelope tag. about 49% chance of drawing your cow elk tag in 23.

All odds I have seen are 100% draw for unit 23 first choice regular with 12 points?  We did have to back off unit 7 because the odds weren't as good. Antelope is going to be unit 63-2 (6%) first choice special, 2nd choice unit 23 65% odds. The cow tag is a 23-6.

[Stein]

On a normal year, I would say you're safe with 12, it was 10.5 last year and point creep is rarely more than 1.  You would be good with 1 or 1.5 point creep, 2 would be under 100, but still likely good odds.

The only thing to worry about would be some sort of massive bench clearing due to the new rules.  It has been predicted 6 out of the last 0 times so far.

[Beastmonger1987]

On a normal year, I would say you're safe with 12, it was 10.5 last year and point creep is rarely more than 1.  You would be good with 1 or 1.5 point creep, 2 would be under 100, but still likely good odds.

The only thing to worry about would be some sort of massive bench clearing due to the new rules.  It has been predicted 6 out of the last 0 times so far.

  a lot of information out there telling people to burn baby burn

[High Climber]

This Florida import to heading to Wyoming this fall! First real Western hunting experience, I've been bumbling around Olympic National Forest getting humbled by blacktails this past season.  Everything is pretty different from sitting in a box blind over a food plot! Hitching a ride with my stepfather's bull hunt in Unit 23. We are going guided. He's burning his 12 points and I'm going to try and take a cow elk and pronghorn while he's looking for a big bull. Hoping to bring 200+ lbs of meat home to the freezer! I'm stuck at 3 points right now, will be looking to burn on the general elk tag in the coming years. Good luck to those in the draw!

12 points wont guarantee your father a bull tag in 23 this year.  I think he is in the running with those points but no guarantee at all. Last year with his 11 points he would have been successful. This year a lot of things can and will change.  Good luck!  By the way, you will need 7 plus points to get an antelope tag with a 27% chance of getting a dow antelope tag. about 49% chance of drawing your cow elk tag in 23.

All odds I have seen are 100% draw for unit 23 first choice regular with 12 points?  We did have to back off unit 7 because the odds weren't as good. Antelope is going to be unit 63-2 (6%) first choice special, 2nd choice unit 23 65% odds. The cow tag is a 23-6.

A couple things for a heads up, not sure if you realize them or I am reading it wrong.
1) Wyoming goes through everyone’s first choice before moving to second choices, the chance of drawing unit 23 antelope second choice is 0%
2) Neither antelope unit 63 or 23 are within the boundaries of Elk unit 23.

[Beastmonger1987]

This Florida import to heading to Wyoming this fall! First real Western hunting experience, I've been bumbling around Olympic National Forest getting humbled by blacktails this past season.  Everything is pretty different from sitting in a box blind over a food plot! Hitching a ride with my stepfather's bull hunt in Unit 23. We are going guided. He's burning his 12 points and I'm going to try and take a cow elk and pronghorn while he's looking for a big bull. Hoping to bring 200+ lbs of meat home to the freezer! I'm stuck at 3 points right now, will be looking to burn on the general elk tag in the coming years. Good luck to those in the draw!

12 points wont guarantee your father a bull tag in 23 this year.  I think he is in the running with those points but no guarantee at all. Last year with his 11 points he would have been successful. This year a lot of things can and will change.  Good luck!  By the way, you will need 7 plus points to get an antelope tag with a 27% chance of getting a dow antelope tag. about 49% chance of drawing your cow elk tag in 23.

All odds I have seen are 100% draw for unit 23 first choice regular with 12 points?  We did have to back off unit 7 because the odds weren't as good. Antelope is going to be unit 63-2 (6%) first choice special, 2nd choice unit 23 65% odds. The cow tag is a 23-6.

A couple things for a heads up, not sure if you realize them or I am reading it wrong.
1) Wyoming goes through everyone’s first choice before moving to second choices, the chance of drawing unit 23 antelope second choice is 0%
2) Neither antelope unit 63 or 23 are within the boundaries of Elk unit 23.

Second choice special draw odds are 65% for unit 23 antelope with 1 point. And yes will be doing a bit of travel over the 5 days to get to unit 63 / 23 for antelope.

I appreciate ya'll making me double check my numbers!

[High Climber]