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Re: LED Headlight bulbs
« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2023, 01:34:16 PM »
Properly installed and adjusted, my experience is that LED bulbs have much better beam control than halogen.  Glare and scatter were noticeably reduced.  Anyone that has messed with LED flashlights has probably noticed that that the beam has very distinct edges as opposed to incandescent bulbs that scatter much more.

Proper adjustment of the reflector as well as orientation of the LED bulb in one truck was much more critical than with halogen bulbs.

I've tried premium halogen bulbs and LED and the LED provided vastly superior lighting for night driving under all conditions.  I can't remember a time where I wished I had halogens.  The LEDs provided better distance lighting forward as well as side lighting.  Both my daughter and wife commented on how much better they can see with the LEDs.

One one truck, I had to simply adjust the assembly to maintain the same height on the beam cutoff, easy to do against a garage door.  Measure the top of the beam pattern with the stock bulbs, swap them and then adjust the assembly for the same beam height. 

On the other truck, the beam was very sensitive to the position of the bulb.  I installed them, then rotated the bulb until I found the best position for a crisp horizontal cutoff at the top of the beam and then adjusted for beam cutoff height.

Your results may vary, I can only speak for the two trucks I have messed with.  I also did not experiment with higher wattage halogens that require rewiring and additional relays due to the excessive current draw.  I compared LEDs with stock halogens as well as premium halogens that are compatible with stock wiring and relays.

The snow melting does seem to make logical sense, but I haven't experienced that issue and drove through a ton of snow every year with them.  I haven't noticed any snow or ice accumulation on the headlights.

The person coming at you in the other lane might disagree.  :chuckle: :chuckle:

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Re: LED Headlight bulbs
« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2023, 02:47:39 PM »
Why?  Less light from the LEDs is going above the beam cutoff than with the halogens.  I have had zero people flash me and have seen the truck head on as my wife usually drives it.  If it was an isssue, it would be something you could address by adjusting the headlight assembly just as the instructions state and would be standard practice for any change in lamp type.

The beam cutoff is super crisp, way more crisp than the halogens that didn't really have a cutoff as much as they just faded off at some point.

The headlights I get blinded by are the guys who put leveling kits, lifts and/or big tires and then don't adjust their headlights.  You can almost guess what the rig look like before it gets to you.

There is a reason why headlight assemblies have adjustment screws on them.  https://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/a257/how-to-adjust-lights/

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Re: LED Headlight bulbs
« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2023, 03:23:32 PM »
Why?  Less light from the LEDs is going above the beam cutoff than with the halogens.  I have had zero people flash me and have seen the truck head on as my wife usually drives it.  If it was an isssue, it would be something you could address by adjusting the headlight assembly just as the instructions state and would be standard practice for any change in lamp type.

The beam cutoff is super crisp, way more crisp than the halogens that didn't really have a cutoff as much as they just faded off at some point.

The headlights I get blinded by are the guys who put leveling kits, lifts and/or big tires and then don't adjust their headlights.  You can almost guess what the rig look like before it gets to you.

There is a reason why headlight assemblies have adjustment screws on them.  https://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/a257/how-to-adjust-lights/

https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-gear/cars-trucks/halogen-led-headlights/

Here...Argue with this guy....https://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/conversions/conversions.html

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Re: LED Headlight bulbs
« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2023, 03:30:45 PM »
Highly recommend these:

https://www.4wheelparts.com/p/pro-comp-led-headlights/9324

Lots of reviews on the Wrangler forums.

Made a word of difference on my 06 LJ.  Cutoff is very defined.  Good value.




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Re: LED Headlight bulbs
« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2023, 04:26:37 PM »
Why?  Less light from the LEDs is going above the beam cutoff than with the halogens.  I have had zero people flash me and have seen the truck head on as my wife usually drives it.  If it was an isssue, it would be something you could address by adjusting the headlight assembly just as the instructions state and would be standard practice for any change in lamp type.

The beam cutoff is super crisp, way more crisp than the halogens that didn't really have a cutoff as much as they just faded off at some point.

The headlights I get blinded by are the guys who put leveling kits, lifts and/or big tires and then don't adjust their headlights.  You can almost guess what the rig look like before it gets to you.

There is a reason why headlight assemblies have adjustment screws on them.  https://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/a257/how-to-adjust-lights/

Well aware of the adjusters. Just saying many people will disagree. I like my LED... 

https://www.change.org/p/u-s-dot-ban-blinding-headlights-and-save-lives

https://www.motortrend.com/news/us-headlights-standard-108-update-infrastructure-law/

For a halogen to LED swap I would go full housing vs just replacing the bulb if you could swing it.   :twocents:

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Re: LED Headlight bulbs
« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2023, 05:39:52 PM »
Lots of good info, thanks all
Yes, mostly looking at just replacing the bulb, not whole headlight.. not willing to spend $600-800 on headlights.....thats crazy talk.  :chuckle:

I still have to read all the links, but im getting more confused as I look into this. My current halogens suck, can barely tell they are on sometimes while driving. Just want a bit more light.

My 07 chevy pu classic body style has stock headlights, by far the best lights I have EVER had on a vehicle. hmmmm

 
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Re: LED Headlight bulbs
« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2023, 06:32:37 PM »
Buy some LED bulbs from Amazon, swap them in 10 minutes.  If you don't like them, swap them back and return them.

Make sure your lenses aren't all fogged over, if they are you'll need to restore them first or it won't make much difference what bulbs you have.

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Re: LED Headlight bulbs
« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2023, 07:02:57 PM »
Lots of good info, thanks all
Yes, mostly looking at just replacing the bulb, not whole headlight.. not willing to spend $600-800 on headlights.....thats crazy talk.  :chuckle:

I still have to read all the links, but im getting more confused as I look into this. My current halogens suck, can barely tell they are on sometimes while driving. Just want a bit more light.

My 07 chevy pu classic body style has stock headlights, by far the best lights I have EVER had on a vehicle. hmmmm

 

Changed low beams on the wife's 08 suburban.  Just the bulbs.  Huge upgrade.

Have changed the bulbs on 4 rigs. No regrets.  Way better.  I would not worry about !enses.
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Re: LED Headlight bulbs
« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2023, 08:23:11 AM »
Buy some LED bulbs from Amazon, swap them in 10 minutes.  If you don't like them, swap them back and return them.

Make sure your lenses aren't all fogged over, if they are you'll need to restore them first or it won't make much difference what bulbs you have.
I can't tell if this is a joke after reading all the evidence against LEDs in halogen housings or just wanton ignorance and a real desire to have less effective lighting and annoy and endanger other drivers.
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Re: LED Headlight bulbs
« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2023, 05:17:15 PM »
Buy some LED bulbs from Amazon, swap them in 10 minutes.  If you don't like them, swap them back and return them.

Make sure your lenses aren't all fogged over, if they are you'll need to restore them first or it won't make much difference what bulbs you have.
I can't tell if this is a joke after reading all the evidence against LEDs in halogen housings or just wanton ignorance and a real desire to have less effective lighting and annoy and endanger other drivers.
Please change the whole unit.
Set up wrong these things are hazardous to other traffic around you.
I drive truck and most of us wish they were never invented since nobody can take the time to adjust them properly.

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Re: LED Headlight bulbs
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2023, 05:22:24 PM »
Buy some LED bulbs from Amazon, swap them in 10 minutes.  If you don't like them, swap them back and return them.

Make sure your lenses aren't all fogged over, if they are you'll need to restore them first or it won't make much difference what bulbs you have.
I can't tell if this is a joke after reading all the evidence against LEDs in halogen housings or just wanton ignorance and a real desire to have less effective lighting and annoy and endanger other drivers.
Please change the whole unit.
Set up wrong these things are hazardous to other traffic around you.
I drive truck and most of us wish they were never invented since nobody can take the time to adjust them properly.


I am a CDL holder and drove for 12 years, I know all about oncoming headlights. I do not like being blinded any more than you. I can handle setting them up.  :rolleyes:
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Re: LED Headlight bulbs
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2023, 05:44:28 PM »
Buy some LED bulbs from Amazon, swap them in 10 minutes.  If you don't like them, swap them back and return them.

Make sure your lenses aren't all fogged over, if they are you'll need to restore them first or it won't make much difference what bulbs you have.
I can't tell if this is a joke after reading all the evidence against LEDs in halogen housings or just wanton ignorance and a real desire to have less effective lighting and annoy and endanger other drivers.

The joke is referencing online petitions by a thinly veiled group trying to get their competitors products banned as "evidence".

Just because someone goes online and says it's "improper" doesn't make it so.  I didn't see where anybody explained how a tight beam properly adjusted is dangerous, in fact it would be safer by the very definition they quote.  I did see references to replacing bulbs with massively over wattage bulbs that admittedly overheat lenses and require rewiring and new relays as the proper way to do it. 

If you want to follow the advice of someone trying to sell you something without even exploring alternate ideas, that's your choice.  The OP asked and several people gave him real world feedback.

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Re: LED Headlight bulbs
« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2023, 06:05:47 PM »
What year jeep? 88 to mid 2000's are known for being dim. First thing is to upgrade the wiring. Google it. Made a difference in my Xj.

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Re: LED Headlight bulbs
« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2023, 06:09:58 PM »
Buy a Ford with LEDs.
Level it.
Hook a heavy trailer on it.
Blind the Toyota's.
You'll never go back.
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Re: LED Headlight bulbs
« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2023, 06:16:39 PM »
I've thrown LED bulbs into 5-6 vehicles.  I aim them on the same garage wall I aim my other headlights.    I love them.

Disclaimer:   I've never done it to a Toyota.   That would be terrible.
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