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Help ID a old rifle cartridge
« on: February 10, 2023, 05:08:26 PM »
My father has taken up a new hobby and metal detecting. Been finding a bunch of old brass around a few old homesteads in the Midwest. I have been able to id a lot of them but not this one.

Anyone know or have a good guess? Thought maybe 50-70 but it doesn’t have the recess ahead of the rim like the 50-70 does.
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Re: Help ID a old rifle cartridge
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2023, 05:13:59 PM »
Is it rimfire?

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Re: Help ID a old rifle cartridge
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2023, 07:33:27 PM »
I’m not sure. It has a tiny little hole where the primer pocket would be but was smaller then a primer so not sure. Has a rim and has found 32 rimfire in this area.
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Re: Help ID a old rifle cartridge
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2023, 07:53:44 PM »
Got me scratching something :). So, no head stamp or side stamp (near the bullet crimp), this hole is it near the base of the casing. One more item is it brass or copper. I'm leaning towards a pinfire, maybe a French .69. This is kind of fun, helped a gal in GB with a Eley 12-gauge pinfire.
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Re: Help ID a old rifle cartridge
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2023, 08:09:59 PM »
He said its brass. I think his detector indicates the type of metal. It could be a pin fire? I thought pin fire was from the side not the middle of the case from the rear like a standard primer. I have never seen anything big in the pin fire lineup. Thinking this is 50-70 cal.

I'll get a pic of the hole in the back.
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Re: Help ID a old rifle cartridge
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2023, 08:11:23 PM »
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Re: Help ID a old rifle cartridge
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2023, 08:32:48 PM »
Only ones I have seen like that were WWI cartridges.   Very cool!

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Re: Help ID a old rifle cartridge
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2023, 09:22:47 PM »
Carp im going to make your day. Pretty sure thats WW1 12 gauge shotgun brass.
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Re: Help ID a old rifle cartridge
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2023, 09:23:18 PM »
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Re: Help ID a old rifle cartridge
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2023, 09:28:04 PM »
What a cool thread!
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Re: Help ID a old rifle cartridge
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2023, 09:31:21 PM »
Carp im going to make your day. Pretty sure thats WW1 12 gauge shotgun brass.
Seeing the primer location and being brass, I'm with @Jolten on the identification.  :tup:
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Re: Help ID a old rifle cartridge
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2023, 09:54:30 PM »
Good find Cuz Uncle!!! :tup:
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Re: Help ID a old rifle cartridge
« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2023, 10:48:06 PM »
Really cool guys! Thank you he will be very excited to here that.

If he finds more I’ll share for sure.

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Re: Help ID a old rifle cartridge
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2023, 07:49:33 AM »
Carp im going to make your day. Pretty sure thats WW1 12 gauge shotgun brass.
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Re: Help ID a old rifle cartridge
« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2023, 08:30:38 AM »
12 gauge is bigger than that.  Maybe 20?

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Re: Help ID a old rifle cartridge
« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2023, 08:33:20 AM »
I was just going to say that is what it was!
Ok, not really. I had no idea. 😄
Cool thread though!
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Re: Help ID a old rifle cartridge
« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2023, 09:54:59 AM »
Scroll down on the link with the list and click on "shotgun".......it lists 12, 16, 20 and 28 ga. pinfires.

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Re: Help ID a old rifle cartridge
« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2023, 10:38:31 AM »
Looks too short to be a shotgun shell.

 


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