Author Topic: Help ID a old rifle cartridge (Read 3509 times)

carpsniperg2 · « **on:** February 10, 2023, 05:08:26 PM »

My father has taken up a new hobby and metal detecting. Been finding a bunch of old brass around a few old homesteads in the Midwest. I have been able to id a lot of them but not this one.

Anyone know or have a good guess? Thought maybe 50-70 but it doesn’t have the recess ahead of the rim like the 50-70 does.

Fidelk · « **Reply #1 on:** February 10, 2023, 05:13:59 PM »

Is it rimfire?

Fidelk · « **Reply #2 on:** February 10, 2023, 05:32:43 PM »

https://www.ammoandguncollector.com/p/complete-list-of-all-rimfire-ammo.html

carpsniperg2 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 10, 2023, 07:33:27 PM »

I’m not sure. It has a tiny little hole where the primer pocket would be but was smaller then a primer so not sure. Has a rim and has found 32 rimfire in this area.

wadu1 · « **Reply #4 on:** February 10, 2023, 07:53:44 PM »

Got me scratching something

. So, no head stamp or side stamp (near the bullet crimp), this hole is it near the base of the casing. One more item is it brass or copper. I'm leaning towards a pinfire, maybe a French .69. This is kind of fun, helped a gal in GB with a Eley 12-gauge pinfire.

carpsniperg2 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 10, 2023, 08:09:59 PM »

He said its brass. I think his detector indicates the type of metal. It could be a pin fire? I thought pin fire was from the side not the middle of the case from the rear like a standard primer. I have never seen anything big in the pin fire lineup. Thinking this is 50-70 cal.

I'll get a pic of the hole in the back.

carpsniperg2 · « **Reply #6 on:** February 10, 2023, 08:11:23 PM »

boneaddict · « **Reply #7 on:** February 10, 2023, 08:32:48 PM »

Only ones I have seen like that were WWI cartridges. Very cool!

Jolten · « **Reply #8 on:** February 10, 2023, 09:22:47 PM »

Carp im going to make your day. Pretty sure thats WW1 12 gauge shotgun brass.

Jolten · « **Reply #9 on:** February 10, 2023, 09:23:18 PM »

Alchase · « **Reply #10 on:** February 10, 2023, 09:28:04 PM »

What a cool thread!

wadu1 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 10, 2023, 09:31:21 PM »

Quote from: Jolten on February 10, 2023, 09:22:47 PM

Carp im going to make your day. Pretty sure thats WW1 12 gauge shotgun brass.

Seeing the primer location and being brass, I'm with @Jolten on the identification.

HUNTINCOUPLE · « **Reply #12 on:** February 10, 2023, 09:54:30 PM »

Good find Cuz Uncle!!!

carpsniperg2 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 10, 2023, 10:48:06 PM »

Really cool guys! Thank you he will be very excited to here that.

If he finds more I’ll share for sure.

boneaddict · « **Reply #14 on:** February 11, 2023, 07:49:33 AM »

Quote from: Jolten on February 10, 2023, 09:22:47 PM

Carp im going to make your day. Pretty sure thats WW1 12 gauge shotgun brass.

JimmyHoffa · « **Reply #15 on:** February 11, 2023, 08:30:38 AM »

12 gauge is bigger than that. Maybe 20?

GWP · « **Reply #16 on:** February 11, 2023, 08:33:20 AM »

I was just going to say that is what it was!
Ok, not really. I had no idea. 😄
Cool thread though!

Fidelk · « **Reply #17 on:** February 11, 2023, 09:54:59 AM »

Scroll down on the link with the list and click on "shotgun".......it lists 12, 16, 20 and 28 ga. pinfires.

salish · « **Reply #18 on:** February 11, 2023, 10:38:31 AM »

Looks too short to be a shotgun shell.

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