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Wife ok"d a can
« on: February 28, 2023, 09:32:11 AM »
I did a search before posting but hadn't seen any threads in recent years.

My wife gave the thumbs up to get a suppressor for the AR. Looking for experiences and thoughts on which one (if it makes a difference) and if I should do it local or online.
« Last Edit: February 28, 2023, 09:40:04 AM by turkeyfeather »
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Re: Wife ok"d a can
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2023, 09:41:56 AM »
I would contact @dreadi he's a site sponsor and dealer, he can give you some pro's and con's. From his posts he's a straight shooter. 
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Re: Wife ok"d a can
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2023, 09:43:23 AM »
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Re: Wife ok"d a can
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2023, 09:45:01 AM »
I would contact @dreadi he's a site sponsor and dealer, he can give you some pro's and con's. From his posts he's a straight shooter.

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I did a search before posting but hadn't seen any threads in recent years.

My wife gave the thumbs up to get a suppressor for the AR. Looking for experiences and thoughts on which one (if it makes a difference) and if I should do it local or online.
This thread has been on going for almost two years. https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,259914.0.html


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Re: Wife ok"d a can
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2023, 10:27:39 AM »
I would contact @dreadi he's a site sponsor and dealer, he can give you some pro's and con's. From his posts he's a straight shooter.

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Thank you!

I did a search before posting but hadn't seen any threads in recent years.

My wife gave the thumbs up to get a suppressor for the AR. Looking for experiences and thoughts on which one (if it makes a difference) and if I should do it local or online.
This thread has been on going for almost two years. https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,259914.0.html
Yup......didn't see that one. Can I PM you with questions?
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Re: Wife ok"d a can
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2023, 11:37:20 AM »
I'd recommend checking out Pewscience. It's the most comprehensive testing data out there I believe.

https://pewscience.com/rankings

Are you thinking a 5.56 dedicated can or a more versatile .30 cal can that you can also use on the AR?

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Re: Wife ok"d a can
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2023, 11:42:42 AM »
I'd recommend checking out Pewscience. It's the most comprehensive testing data out there I believe.

https://pewscience.com/rankings

Are you thinking a 5.56 dedicated can or a more versatile .30 cal can that you can also use on the AR?
Was initially thinking dedicated.......but now I'm not so sure.
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Re: Wife ok"d a can
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2023, 12:42:27 PM »
Using the composite suppression rating, here are some comparisons.

.30 Cal Cans
 - Q Trash Panda: 28.7db suppression with 5.56 ammo, 33.1db suppression with .308 ammo
 - CGS Helios (Solid): 27.1db suppression with 5.56 ammo, 44.5db suppression with .308 ammo
 - Surefire SOCOM762 (Flash): 24.9db suppression with 5.56 ammo, 38.4db suppression with .308 ammo

5.56 Specific Cans
 - Surefire SOCOM556 (Flash): 35.7db suppression
 - HUXWRX HX-QD 556: 31db suppression
 - SilencerCo Saker 556: 32.6db suppression

So, the .30 cal cans clearly do not suppress 5.56 rounds as much as a dedicated 5.56 can would. But a .30 cal can is obviously more versatile since it can be used on anything from .300 WSM down to 5.56/.223 typically.

I apologize if this made the decision even tougher. Easy solution though, buy two! Or three, gotta have a rimfire can too! :chuckle:

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Re: Wife ok"d a can
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2023, 01:54:01 PM »
I would contact @dreadi he's a site sponsor and dealer, he can give you some pro's and con's. From his posts he's a straight shooter.

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Thank you!

I did a search before posting but hadn't seen any threads in recent years.

My wife gave the thumbs up to get a suppressor for the AR. Looking for experiences and thoughts on which one (if it makes a difference) and if I should do it local or online.
This thread has been on going for almost two years. https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,259914.0.html
Yup......didn't see that one. Can I PM you with questions?

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Re: Wife ok"d a can
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2023, 02:07:58 PM »
Been waiting on a suppressor since June. Dreadi was great to deal with. The wait period has been long but worry free. Can't wait for the go ahead from the feds!

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Re: Wife ok"d a can
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2023, 03:15:49 PM »
I have more suppressors than my wife knows about. When i first bought mine i really scrutinized the db reductions. After a few waiting periods i focused more on weight, overall length, and looks. The 1-2 db spread will not matter much unless you plan on shooting indoors without earpro. Also note that many have specialized mb that would be required for each host. Can get spendy if you have various platforms. I would recommend the 30 cal can.

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Re: Wife ok"d a can
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2023, 03:33:18 PM »
I ended up with a 30 cal can and use it with .223 to 300wsm.  According to everything I've researched, it appears the dedicated .223 can's only reduce the decibel rating 2-3 ish decibels more than a 30 can can that is much more versatile. 

I am going to get a dedicated .22 can for my rimfire rifles.   

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Re: Wife ok"d a can
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2023, 03:54:41 PM »
I ended up with a 30 cal can and use it with .223 to 300wsm.  According to everything I've researched, it appears the dedicated .223 can's only reduce the decibel rating 2-3 ish decibels more than a 30 can can that is much more versatile. 

I am going to get a dedicated .22 can for my rimfire rifles.

db SPL is a logarithmic scale. 3db less sound = 50% reduction
Achieving a 3db reduction in SPL is BIGLY YUGE.

Something no else has mentioned is that caliber specific suppressors has to be thought of in grander view of what platform you're putting it on. I'm not going to reccomend a Surefire RC2 5.56 for a guy that just wants to suppress is bolt action .224 coyote gun.
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Re: Wife ok"d a can
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2023, 03:58:52 PM »
I ended up with a 30 cal can and use it with .223 to 300wsm.  According to everything I've researched, it appears the dedicated .223 can's only reduce the decibel rating 2-3 ish decibels more than a 30 can can that is much more versatile. 

I am going to get a dedicated .22 can for my rimfire rifles.

2-3db difference seems a bit low. From the numbers I pulled above it's an average 6db swing between .30 cal and 5.56 cans. The Surefire SOCOM's and the DA Nomad 30 are both 10db of suppression difference :dunno:

A couple of the .30 cal cans (red) outperform the worst 5.56 cans (green) though, so that's interesting.

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Re: Wife ok"d a can
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2023, 04:53:48 PM »
There are a few factors for 30 cal cans on 5.56. Usually 30 cal cans are larger than 5.56 cans so the greater volume gives it better sound suppression on a 5.56 but the larger hole allows more sound out. I found to my untrained ear my 30 cal can sounds about the same on my 5.56 as my dedicated 5.56 can.

The other thing to consider is dB is not everything. You can shoot 2 suppressors side by side and the one with less dB reduction can sound quieter because of the tone.

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Re: Wife ok"d a can
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2023, 10:34:09 PM »
Suppressors are not only a big $$$ investment but regardless of what anyone tells you figure on it taking a year before you get approved and can take it home.  If it comes back sooner, great, but if it doesn't you'll be a lot less disappointed.  Also, do your research, do your research, do your research and just about the time you think your eyes are going to cross because you've read soooo much information about suppressors, some of it even conflicting, do even more research.  Look at them as a life long investment, because they pretty much are, so educate yourself as much as possible before you make a selection, it'll save you money in the long run.

I have a few different cans, TBAC, SAS, Dead Air, and Silencer Central some are definitely better than others.

Suppressors in the 1.5 diameter class, you'll be hard pressed to find a better can then the TBAC Ultra 7 and Ultra 9.  They're some of, if not, lightest, most repeatable, and quietest cans on the market in the 1.5 dia. class.  They are typically what all the other manufacturers are chasing and compare themselves to.  The Ultras come in 6.5 and 30 cal.  Their 22TD rimfire can is one of the best rimfire cans you can buy and their new Magnus is a beast and the quietest dedicated 30 cal can on the market but the Magnus also cost quite a bit more and are a fair bit heavier than their Ultra series suppressors.

IMO, a suppressor that has crazy good suppression, isn't super expensive, not particularly long (8.4in) and is still very lightweight (12.6oz), is the Dead Air Nomad LT.  It's a 1.7 dia. can so a little bigger than a 1.5 but for its size and weight it is one of the best 30 cal suppressors out there.  It also has interchangeable end caps.  It's still a 30 caliber core so I'm not sure there is all that much benefit to swapping to smaller caliber end caps if you used it on a 6.5 or 22 but it's an option.  Dead Air also makes one of the best rimfire cans on the market.  The DA Mask and TBAC TD are two rimfire cans that are more often than not in everyone's top three.

Ray Sanchez is a co-owner of TBAC and the testing Ray does along with their high tech metering equipment Ray puts out very good and honest results.  They test lots of different suppressors, in fact, Ray will test any companies suppressor that will send them one to test and Ray gives very honest info.  If they test/meter any other suppressor and it meters lower then one of TBAC's cans Ray has no problem giving kudos, right in the video, to that company for making a great can.

https://www.youtube.com/@RaySanchezTBAC/videos

Among the cans I have are 22 caliber and 6.5 caliber specific suppressor, they're great, but if I knew then what I know now I would have skipped past both of those and went straight to one of the top rated 30 cal cans and saved myself a lot of money.  I think the only suppressor I regret buying is the Banish 30 from Silencer Central.  It's not a bad suppressor it's just that there are better ones out there for the same money.



 


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