Some Very Big, Some Very BAD News Out of Olympia, 2A

[Special T]

HB1240 (Assault weapons ban) and HB1143 (Pre-Purchasing Licensing Requirement) will come up for a floor vote Monday or Tuesday.

Might not want to wait picking up your next toy

[Mulie87]

Not a bit surprised. This place is going to hell (CA/OR) real fast.

[trophyhunt]

Wow, so once it hits the floor, it will be passed.  You democrats are Friggon amazing! This will eventually be over turned, it’s clearly unconstitutional. But they know it will take years to over turn. One thing that I’m not sure of, the pre purchase license, will that require a class to take before you can buy any gun? And is Oregon losing all their gun stores because of this law? ( they passed it months ago)

[Oldguy]

Sent my representatives emails to let them know I don't support these bills. Grrrrr

[Mulie87]

  same

[Wolfdog2314]

Question for the group… I’ve read thru the whole bill, and like all WA bills, are confusing and likely left open to interpretation to take more rights away as however they see fit. There is a section that talks about “assembly”.
My question is:
Will this “assault” weapons ban, ban the ability to buy and assemble AR parts? Such as lower parts kit, complete uppers/upper parts, stocks/barrels and the such? I’d imagine stripped lowers won’t be allowed for purchase…
Maybe someone knows. Maybe just their own interpretation… Hope for the best, but need to prepare for the worst…

Thanks

[Ridgeratt]

Its all about perception. Just how do they perceive the law.

[Special T]

Question for the group… I’ve read thru the whole bill, and like all WA bills, are confusing and likely left open to interpretation to take more rights away as however they see fit. There is a section that talks about “assembly”.
My question is:
Will this “assault” weapons ban, ban the ability to buy and assemble AR parts? Such as lower parts kit, complete uppers/upper parts, stocks/barrels and the such? I’d imagine stripped lowers won’t be allowed for purchase…
Maybe someone knows. Maybe just their own interpretation… Hope for the best, but need to prepare for the worst…

Thanks

[Wolfdog2314]

Very little time was spent on AR components, but he makes it sound as if components such as lower parts and upper parts will also be outlawed.

Either way, buy now.

[jrebel]

So, if the house votes to approve HB1240, does it then go to the senate?  or because the senate had a similar bill that died.....does it just go to committee and  when passed by the house goes direct to the governor? 

Been some debate on this and I can't find a definitive answer. 

[Broomd]

WA = sh thole....

[pickardjw]

So, if the house votes to approve HB1240, does it then go to the senate?  or because the senate had a similar bill that died.....does it just go to committee and  when passed by the house goes direct to the governor? 

Been some debate on this and I can't find a definitive answer.

It will have to go to the Senate. HB 1240 picked up more steam than it's companion bill in the Senate so the Senate did not work on their version. No use in working on the same bill at the same time. If the Senate makes any amendments it will go back to the House for re-vote and then to Inslee. If the Senate doesn't make any changes and passes it, straight to Inslee's desk.

Oregon's 114 bill that included pre-purchasing licensing is still on hold thanks to an injunction by a county judge.

And general consensus from what I've read (both in reading the bill and other's opinions) is that HB 1240 will prevent you from buying AR specific parts including stripped lowers. Or, at least, most companies won't want to test the waters and simply not sell to Washington. Things like suppressors, flash hiders, red dots, etc. that could be used on rifles or shotguns we should still be able to buy...but again, depends on whether companies are willing to sell in Washington.

[jrebel]

So likely not gonna go into law in the next day or two....but AR's and lowers are flying off the shelf.  If you want one and wait, you likely won't be able to find one in a week.  I was at a gun store this morning an 8 lowers sold in about 45 minutes.   

[timberfaller]

If you haven't noticed, Dems make the greatest gun salesmen/women ever PLUS they make good comrades too!

Almost forgot, they are also our "mass" shooters in this nation!

[pickardjw]

Yeah I picked up a couple at WCA in Bellevue a few weeks back. Expected them to have sold out but they had stocked up for all the panic buyers.

[hughjorgan]

Wow, so once it hits the floor, it will be passed.  You democrats are Friggon amazing! This will eventually be over turned, it’s clearly unconstitutional. But they know it will take years to over turn. One thing that I’m not sure of, the pre purchase license, will that require a class to take before you can buy any gun? And is Oregon losing all their gun stores because of this law? ( they passed it months ago)

The Bruen decision has already settled this. They can’t ban firearms that are in common use such as the Ar15 and its platform. Garbage legislation and a waste of tax dollars.

[ghosthunter]

Wow, so once it hits the floor, it will be passed.  You democrats are Friggon amazing! This will eventually be over turned, it’s clearly unconstitutional. But they know it will take years to over turn. One thing that I’m not sure of, the pre purchase license, will that require a class to take before you can buy any gun? And is Oregon losing all their gun stores because of this law? ( they passed it months ago)

The Bruen decision has already settled this. They can’t ban firearms that are in common use such as the Ar15 and its platform. Garbage legislation and a waste of tax dollars.

They know it. Just trying to impede gun buyers. They know they will get a few years run out of it before court settles it.

[Cougartail]

Wow, so once it hits the floor, it will be passed.  You democrats are Friggon amazing! This will eventually be over turned, it’s clearly unconstitutional. But they know it will take years to over turn. One thing that I’m not sure of, the pre purchase license, will that require a class to take before you can buy any gun? And is Oregon losing all their gun stores because of this law? ( they passed it months ago)

The Bruen decision has already settled this. They can’t ban firearms that are in common use such as the Ar15 and its platform. Garbage legislation and a waste of tax dollars.

They know it. Just trying to impede gun buyers. They know they will get a few years run out of it before court settles it.

Leftists wimps being passive aggresive.. Thanks all you gender neutral humanoids and transitioning beta boys who voted for these authoritarians.

[Trigger05-11]

I don’t have an AR in my collection. I would like one. If I buy one now, is it just a panic buy? We have all seen that happen over the years.

1. Do I need to buy now? If I don’t, could I be screwed?
2. What brand would you recommend in the $800 and under range.

Thanks!

[MADMAX]

I don’t have an AR in my collection. I would like one. If I buy one now, is it just a panic buy? We have all seen that happen over the years.

1. Do I need to buy now? If I don’t, could I be screwed?
2. What brand would you recommend in the $800 and under range.

Thanks!

I bought one last year
Why ?
Because I figured if I ever needed it


Its a little longer waiting period now but

Better to do it now than ask permission later
I used Palmetto state armory

https://palmettostatearmory.com/

Satisfied

[pickardjw]

I don’t have an AR in my collection. I would like one. If I buy one now, is it just a panic buy? We have all seen that happen over the years.

1. Do I need to buy now? If I don’t, could I be screwed?
2. What brand would you recommend in the $800 and under range.

Thanks!

I would try to buy locally. Or pony up for express shipping. This thing could move through fast at this point and 5+ days of shipping could be a deal breaker.

Springfield Saint, S&W M&P Sport, and Diamondback DB15 are ones I’ve considered buying before but I decided to build instead. All should come in around your price range. 

[MADMAX]

Right here
Right now

https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=276604.msg3774722;topicseen#new

[Special T]

I don’t have an AR in my collection. I would like one. If I buy one now, is it just a panic buy? We have all seen that happen over the years.

1. Do I need to buy now? If I don’t, could I be screwed?
2. What brand would you recommend in the $800 and under range.

Thanks!

According to Washington gun law you should buy a lower receiver. Mostly because of the paper trail. I believe one of the videos I posted explains why. Also If I were to buy more than 1 I would buy them separate days as videos have shown that purchasing 2 firearms on the same day throws an ATF red flag.  It is also how you dont have to take the assault weapons training course or whatever they are calling that online class.

[pickardjw]

Buying a stripped lower vs a complete AR just gives you the freedom to build it as a pistol or rifle while it is listed as “other” in the paperwork. If you buy a complete AR rifle (or build one with a 16” barrel) and later decide to put say a 10” barrel on it, you’ve converted it to a short barreled rifle that is subject to registration as an NFA item.

BUT if you buy a stripped lower and build it into an AR pistol with a 10” barrel first, you can switch between a 16” barrel and the original 10” without any violation of the NFA. Because it is a pistol per its original configuration.

That’s my understanding, mostly from watching a lot of Bill’s videos.

[Buck Rub Jr]

Buying a stripped lower vs a complete AR just gives you the freedom to build it as a pistol or rifle while it is listed as “other” in the paperwork. If you buy a complete AR rifle (or build one with a 16” barrel) and later decide to put say a 10” barrel on it, you’ve converted it to a short barreled rifle that is subject to registration as an NFA item.

BUT if you buy a stripped lower and build it into an AR pistol with a 10” barrel first, you can switch between a 16” barrel and the original 10” without any violation of the NFA. Because it is a pistol per its original configuration.

That’s my understanding, mostly from watching a lot of Bill’s videos.

If you buy any AR “pistol” with a brace, whether you built it or bought the lower, you can use whatever barrel length you want. But if you have a stock and not a brace you have to register it as a SBR if you want to go below 16” overall length on the barrel. Doesn’t matter if you build it or buy it, correct?

[pickardjw]

Buying a stripped lower vs a complete AR just gives you the freedom to build it as a pistol or rifle while it is listed as “other” in the paperwork. If you buy a complete AR rifle (or build one with a 16” barrel) and later decide to put say a 10” barrel on it, you’ve converted it to a short barreled rifle that is subject to registration as an NFA item.

BUT if you buy a stripped lower and build it into an AR pistol with a 10” barrel first, you can switch between a 16” barrel and the original 10” without any violation of the NFA. Because it is a pistol per its original configuration.

That’s my understanding, mostly from watching a lot of Bill’s videos.

If you buy any AR “pistol” with a brace, whether you built it or bought the lower, you can use whatever barrel length you want. But if you have a stock and not a brace you have to register it as a SBR if you want to go below 16” overall length on the barrel. Doesn’t matter if you build it or buy it, correct?

Yes. The only perk of buying a stripped lower vs an AR pistol like in your example is the designation on your 4473.

[HUNTIN4SIX]

 

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