HB 1240 "Assault Weapons Ban" Passes House

[jay.sharkbait]

I didn’t see anything about unserialized components?

Have you read the bill?

No person in this state may manufacture, import, distribute, sell, or offer for sale any assault weapon, except as authorized in this section (goes on to list law enforcement, military, transfer to direct family upon death, etc)

(2)(a) "Assault weapon" means: (goes on to list virtually every semi auto rifle including AK-47 in all forms, AR-15 in all forms, etc.)

(ii) A semiautomatic rifle that has an overall length of less than 30 inches;

(iii) A conversion kit, part, or combination of parts, from which an assault weapon can be assembled or from which a firearm can be converted into an assault weapon if those parts are in the possession or under the control of the same person; or(iv) A semiautomatic, center fire rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and has one or more of the following: (goes on to list pistol grips, thumbhole stocks, folding stocks, suppressors, flash hiders, muzzle brakes, threaded barrels, grenade launchers (), foregrips, and on and on including some semi-auto pistol and semi-auto shotgun restrictions)

I'm no lawyer, but even if this would still allow you to buy parts what company is going to take the risk and ship them here? Aero could possibly still manufacturer here and distribute in other states. Maybe they'll be the injured party that brings the lawsuit that puts an injunction on the whole thing. Or they move to a state where they don't have to deal with this BS every year.

I did read it, but did not see (iii)

This whole thing is garbage and I think it will get held up in court and never be implemented.

[ghosthunter]

It is crazy bad.

All you guys that bought silencers, muzzel  breaks and have semi auto rifles with threaded barrels ,thumbhole stocks, extended grips on shotguns or rifles (semi) are in the commie stew.

And even if you can keep what you got, when you are gone much of it cannot be inherited.

[timberfaller]

History repeating itself!  Nothing new under the sun!

This is how Hitler did it, and most know how that turned out!  This present generation hasn't been taught history!!

[pickardjw]

I did read it, but did not see (iii)

This whole thing is garbage and I think it will get held up in court and never be implemented.

Yeah, I swear you need a degree in legalese to understand the crap they write. I have a suppressor in jail, not sure if I'll be able to take possession in sept/oct. Got a 6ARC and 300 blackout to build too. Lots of different takes on whether you'll still be able to buy components or not because it's written so poorly (on purpose I suppose). Most seem to assume that companies will simply not sell to WA instead of taking the risk.

In contrast, HB 1178 to end State preemption was basically just, "this RCW is null and void" (paraphrasing of course). Glad that one never gained traction.

[Sundance]

Lowers are moving fast. The parts thing looks difficult to enforce. Several bolt action chassis systems utilize the same common parts found on AR/AK platforms. I.e. magpul, mlok, pic mounts, 1913 folding adapters etc. Am I not going to be able to buy Holosun red dots anymore? What about magpul stocks and law tactical folders for my bolt action chassis systems?

[Sundance]

It is crazy bad.

All you guys that bought silencers, muzzel  breaks and have semi auto rifles with threaded barrels ,thumbhole stocks, extended grips on shotguns or rifles (semi) are in the commie stew.

And even if you can keep what you got, when you are gone much of it cannot be inherited.

What if your NFA items and SAR’s are in a trust? Will the beneficiary(s) not be able to assume possession? Will they need to be added as another trustee?

[timberghost72]

Hard to believe it was just a few years ago that we were able to get SBRs and Suppressors legalized.  Hopefully, Aeroprecision will move here to Idaho rather than just closing shop.

Why would Aero close shop?

Illegal to manufacture in the state. It’s noted in the article

They can still manufacture for LE/military

What I don't get (well I do, it's about money) is why gun manufacturers sell their products to states (state police) who outlaw their products to citizens.

[jrebel]

It is crazy bad.

All you guys that bought silencers, muzzel  breaks and have semi auto rifles with threaded barrels ,thumbhole stocks, extended grips on shotguns or rifles (semi) are in the commie stew.

And even if you can keep what you got, when you are gone much of it cannot be inherited.

I'm pretty sure it can be inherited.....at least by the son's and daughters.  The question, and it is vague at best, is whether or not their kids (i.e. your grandkids) can inherit it from your kids (their parents).  Lineage of the rifle and original owner of when this bill takes effect is required for inheritance.  If your grandkids are old enough at the time of your death, I would think them inheriting the rifles would be legal which would guarantee at least two future generations of legal ownership. 

I'm definitely not a lawyer....but this is the way I interpret this mess.   

[jay.sharkbait]

It is crazy bad.

All you guys that bought silencers, muzzel  breaks and have semi auto rifles with threaded barrels ,thumbhole stocks, extended grips on shotguns or rifles (semi) are in the commie stew.

And even if you can keep what you got, when you are gone much of it cannot be inherited.

I'm pretty sure it can be inherited.....at least by the son's and daughters.  The question, and it is vague at best, is whether or not their kids (i.e. your grandkids) can inherit it from your kids (their parents).  Lineage of the rifle and original owner of when this bill takes effect is required for inheritance.  If your grandkids are old enough at the time of your death, I would think them inheriting the rifles would be legal which would guarantee at least two future generations of legal ownership. 

I'm definitely not a lawyer....but this is the way I interpret this mess.

Wouldn’t it be once inherited, you would then be “owner” and then that owner would be able to pass down?

[jrebel]

It is crazy bad.

All you guys that bought silencers, muzzel  breaks and have semi auto rifles with threaded barrels ,thumbhole stocks, extended grips on shotguns or rifles (semi) are in the commie stew.

And even if you can keep what you got, when you are gone much of it cannot be inherited.

I'm pretty sure it can be inherited.....at least by the son's and daughters.  The question, and it is vague at best, is whether or not their kids (i.e. your grandkids) can inherit it from your kids (their parents).  Lineage of the rifle and original owner of when this bill takes effect is required for inheritance.  If your grandkids are old enough at the time of your death, I would think them inheriting the rifles would be legal which would guarantee at least two future generations of legal ownership. 

I'm definitely not a lawyer....but this is the way I interpret this mess.

Wouldn’t it be once inherited, you would then be “owner” and then that owner would be able to pass down?

You would think so, but I believe the bill had verbiage that says otherwise.  Not saying it is legal or not...but that is how it was explained to me. 

It was this section specifically.  the word "provenance" or proof of origin....which means it will become important to document your family lineage and firearm history for those rifles being handed down.  I would think a trust would suffice...but again, I'm no lawyer so I really have no idea. 

(d) The receipt of an assault weapon by a person who, on or after
13 the effective date of this section, acquires possession of the
14 assault weapon by operation of law upon the death of the former owner
15 who was in legal possession of the assault weapon, provided the
16 person in possession of the assault weapon can establish such
17 provenance. Receipt under this subsection (2)(d) is not
18 "distribution" under this chapter. A person who legally receives an
19 assault weapon under this subsection (2)(d) may not sell or transfer
20 the assault weapon to any other person in this state other than to a
21 licensed dealer, to a federally licensed gunsmith for the purpose of
22 service or repair, or to a law enforcement agency for the purpose of
permanently relinquishing the assault weapon.

[trophyhunt]

Well, I don't own an assault rifle so none of this applies to me.   

[ghosthunter]

It is crazy bad.

All you guys that bought silencers, muzzel  breaks and have semi auto rifles with threaded barrels ,thumbhole stocks, extended grips on shotguns or rifles (semi) are in the commie stew.

And even if you can keep what you got, when you are gone much of it cannot be inherited.

I'm pretty sure it can be inherited.....at least by the son's and daughters.  The question, and it is vague at best, is whether or not their kids (i.e. your grandkids) can inherit it from your kids (their parents).  Lineage of the rifle and original owner of when this bill takes effect is required for inheritance.  If your grandkids are old enough at the time of your death, I would think them inheriting the rifles would be legal which would guarantee at least two future generations of legal ownership. 

I'm definitely not a lawyer....but this is the way I interpret this mess.

I think the video spelled out that yes your son or daughter could inherit, but they could not pass them on to their kids. But not sure, 

[Ridgeratt]

crazy the chain of custody will stop at your children and not carry on.

[ghosthunter]

Well we all know the end game here. Couple generations and the guns listed will be gone.

[hunter399]

Look back at history.
Like 1776 type history.
It's not the gun that sets you free.
It's a secret.........hold on.....its coming.

Gunpowder !
That's what gave you freedom.