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Re: HB 1240 "Assault Weapons Ban" Passes House
« Reply #300 on: April 10, 2023, 08:12:34 PM »
Just curious if anyone can comment to the restriction in this law that prevents a third generation from owning the grandfathered-in restricted items; and whether or not putting these newly-banned items into a gun trust would be a viable work-around for grandkids to be able to ‘Inherit’ these upon their becoming trustees…

I sure hope all of this back and forth speculating is as pointless as it ought to be once litigation against this ‘law’ proceeds…
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Re: HB 1240 "Assault Weapons Ban" Passes House
« Reply #301 on: April 10, 2023, 08:42:35 PM »
Just curious if anyone can comment to the restriction in this law that prevents a third generation from owning the grandfathered-in restricted items; and whether or not putting these newly-banned items into a gun trust would be a viable work-around for grandkids to be able to ‘Inherit’ these upon their becoming trustees…

I sure hope all of this back and forth speculating is as pointless as it ought to be once litigation against this ‘law’ proceeds…

There is no vehicle to transfer the non-NFA firearm from an individual to a trust.

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Re: HB 1240 "Assault Weapons Ban" Passes House
« Reply #302 on: April 10, 2023, 08:43:50 PM »
If the bill goes in effect immediately, will it affect current/pending gun sales?

Cuz i just got a new elk gun that comes with the muzzle brake that's coming in next week...

It only effects semi auto guns under 30 inches. Your elk rifle will be fine

This statement is not accurate.

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Re: HB 1240 "Assault Weapons Ban" Passes House
« Reply #303 on: April 10, 2023, 09:01:45 PM »
Just curious if anyone can comment to the restriction in this law that prevents a third generation from owning the grandfathered-in restricted items; and whether or not putting these newly-banned items into a gun trust would be a viable work-around for grandkids to be able to ‘Inherit’ these upon their becoming trustees…

I sure hope all of this back and forth speculating is as pointless as it ought to be once litigation against this ‘law’ proceeds…

There is no vehicle to transfer the non-NFA firearm from an individual to a trust.

Thanks for the response; it seems, however, that it should be possible for a gun trust to take title for legal, individually-owned firearms, although I understand it is normally something used for nfa-regulated items..

See below link, I’m not attempting to advertise for this company, I just found this in some preliminary engine searches.. and am very curious as to it’s protection against these types of laws..

https://www.washingtongunlaw.com/gun-trusts
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Re: HB 1240 "Assault Weapons Ban" Passes House
« Reply #304 on: April 10, 2023, 09:26:37 PM »
If the bill goes in effect immediately, will it affect current/pending gun sales?

Cuz i just got a new elk gun that comes with the muzzle brake that's coming in next week...
It only effects semi auto guns under 30 inches. Your elk rifle will be fine
This statement is not accurate.
:yeah:

The 30 inch provision is just one of the characteristics that will now be considered an "assault weapon."

To HunterStrait's question if your rifle is a semi-auto, that will accept a detachable magazine, and has a muzzle break it will be considered an "assault weapon." As to whether the gun shop will give your gun it's really going to depend on the interpretation of the law, the law says it is unlawful to "distribute" an "assault weapon." I can see how a gun store handing over your new elk gun is distributing an assault weapon, thus unlawful.

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Re: HB 1240 "Assault Weapons Ban" Passes House
« Reply #305 on: April 10, 2023, 09:45:16 PM »
The legislation further defines assault weapons as “semiautomatic rifles with an overall length of less than 30 inches; conversion kits and parts that can be used to assemble an assault weapon or convert a firearm into an assault weapon

semiautomatic centerfire rifles that have the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and have one or more additional features listed in the bill; semiautomatic centerfire rifles with a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than ten rounds;

Those are direct from the article.
If his elk rifle isn't semi auto then the muzzle brake doesn't matter


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Re: HB 1240 "Assault Weapons Ban" Passes House
« Reply #306 on: April 10, 2023, 09:50:46 PM »
So it would have to be a semi auto detachable magazine elk rifle with a muzzle brake to be illegal.

I stand corrected

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Re: HB 1240 "Assault Weapons Ban" Passes House
« Reply #307 on: April 10, 2023, 10:19:21 PM »
Then why would an sks be banned?

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Re: HB 1240 "Assault Weapons Ban" Passes House
« Reply #308 on: April 10, 2023, 10:33:47 PM »

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Re: HB 1240 "Assault Weapons Ban" Passes House
« Reply #309 on: April 11, 2023, 12:00:13 AM »
Then why would an sks be banned?
Some guns are specifically named in the law, such as an SKS.

https://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/biennium/2023-24/Pdf/Bills/House%20Bills/1240-S.pdf?q=20230410223256

SKS commie, baddd... M1 Garand... good enough in WWII, good enough now, you'd better defend yourself with the weapons of the last world war.  Their stupidity makes my head spin.  Surprised they didn't ban the color black and automatic rubber band guns.

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Re: HB 1240 "Assault Weapons Ban" Passes House
« Reply #310 on: April 11, 2023, 04:49:45 AM »
The whole bill is basically copy and pasted from Californias. WA wants to be California. The agenda been set for a while, we don't have politicians. We have woke agenda set extremists, I however am ready to stake that sign out front

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Re: HB 1240 "Assault Weapons Ban" Passes House
« Reply #311 on: April 11, 2023, 07:06:14 AM »
Consider a law which bans people from moving to our state with their semi-auto firearms. This is unconstitutional on so many levels that it has an emergency clause to be signed by our King immediately. All the while, there's no emergency clause dealing with raised mandatory sentences for violent crime, fentanyl, human trafficking. We know what the king is trying to do and he's not even hiding it. God help us if we don't get him out of office in 2024...or his jester Ferguson.
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Re: HB 1240 "Assault Weapons Ban" Passes House
« Reply #312 on: April 11, 2023, 07:14:26 AM »
Yup the king....
I'm just tired of being an example state.
The king ever gonna get over it,that nobody wants him for president .
They just pushing this crap ,so they can stand there and say .
Look at us ,we did it. So all the rest of the nation should lay down and do it too.

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Re: HB 1240 "Assault Weapons Ban" Passes House
« Reply #313 on: April 11, 2023, 07:15:02 AM »


Consider a law which bans people from moving to our state with their semi-auto firearms. This is unconstitutional on so many levels that it has an emergency clause to be signed by our King immediately. All the while, there's no emergency clause dealing with raised mandatory sentences for violent crime, fentanyl, human trafficking. We know what the king is trying to do and he's not even hiding it. God help us if we don't get him out of office in 2024...or his jester Ferguson.

Emergency clauses aren't that uncommon in WA. There's even been wildlife bills with emergency clauses.

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Re: HB 1240 "Assault Weapons Ban" Passes House
« Reply #314 on: April 11, 2023, 07:49:41 AM »
His head keeps getting bigger.  I think Covid really blew up his ego.  We've watched California mass migrate to WA since the early 70's.  I know a few that went back they loved it so much.
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