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Offline blacktailcrzy

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Special draw structure changes
« on: March 20, 2023, 01:53:34 PM »
Are there any meetings that can be attended to advocate for changes to the points and draw structures?

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Re: Special draw structure changes
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2023, 04:08:27 PM »
You can mention that anytime during public comment or submit a petition for the commission to consider it.

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Re: Special draw structure changes
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2023, 04:22:20 PM »
Never hurts to email the permit manager and commision, even though our commish is a joke.
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Re: Special draw structure changes
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2023, 09:17:38 AM »
What kind of changes would you like to see?

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Re: Special draw structure changes
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2023, 09:53:48 AM »
22 adult ram tags, 22 goat, and 105 antlered moose in 2023, start with making OIL's resident only.  Allow NR to bid on auction tags and buy raffle tickets, doubt that alone would change the odds much.

Need predator control and a desire to rebuild herd numbers regardless of any point or no point system.
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Re: Special draw structure changes
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2023, 10:05:06 AM »
Again, best way to immediately change drawing odds for OIL’s,  make people purchase tags to be in the draw. Refunds to those not drawn, email permit manager and commission.
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Re: Special draw structure changes
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2023, 10:13:27 AM »
 :yeah:

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Re: Special draw structure changes
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2023, 10:16:11 AM »
Economy failure = Too many people spending money they don't have on things they don't need to impress people they don't like.

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Re: Special draw structure changes
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2023, 10:30:42 AM »
22 adult ram tags, 22 goat, and 105 antlered moose in 2023, start with making OIL's resident only.  Allow NR to bid on auction tags and buy raffle tickets, doubt that alone would change the odds much.

Need predator control and a desire to rebuild herd numbers regardless of any point or no point system.

I could totally get behind allowing only residents allowed to apply for OIL.   Every other state has Non Resident stipulations for a myriad of species.  Our OIL resource is theoretically constrained and unless the animal numbers shoot up dramatically, it makes no sense to open it up to everyone in the country.  The cash difference between a NR tag vs a resident tag is nominal.  The department could make up the difference easily when NR simply shift their application money to the raffle draws.
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Re: Special draw structure changes
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2023, 10:38:17 AM »
 :chuckle:

The only changes WDFW will listen to is ones that increase revenue
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Re: Special draw structure changes
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2023, 10:42:23 AM »
1 bull moose tag and 0 ram tags went to NR's in 2022.

I'd be all for changes to the draw...the problem is, when this discussion gets raised there is never anywhere close to consensus and so it stays status quo. 

To really make a run at changes you would need to articulate a clear objective/goal and then get a lot of buy in from multiple user groups.  I think under this commission we really could get traction, but it would require building consensus on what the larger objective should be.  :twocents:
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Re: Special draw structure changes
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2023, 11:49:01 AM »
Idk if Washington has a bunch of non resident oil competition...but with that said if we could split Washington up region by region and let the residents of that region have 1st pick of those tags we could really cut down on the competition  :chuckle:

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Re: Special draw structure changes
« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2023, 11:54:02 AM »
What happened to all those transplanted goats from the Olympics? Shouldn’t goat tags be increasing? I think it was over 200 relocated.
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Re: Special draw structure changes
« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2023, 11:58:40 AM »
What happened to all those transplanted goats from the Olympics? Shouldn’t goat tags be increasing? I think it was over 200 relocated.

I think some horrific number of them died, like 60%.  They had awful survival rates.

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Re: Special draw structure changes
« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2023, 12:38:36 PM »
Idk if Washington has a bunch of non resident oil competition...but with that said if we could split Washington up region by region and let the residents of that region have 1st pick of those tags we could really cut down on the competition  :chuckle:

Probably more than you think, with the price structure the way it is.   

 


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