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2023 crayfish: Let’s talk crayfish/mud bugs
« on: May 09, 2023, 05:14:57 PM »
Never put much thought into them but think the kids would enjoy catching some. I know there are a few hardcore guys on here that get after them.

Trying to decide to buy a few or make a few. To go cylinder or square.
I have some 1/2”x1” wire mesh. Will this work or is that to big?

How about bait? Just fish carcasses? I caught a few when I was a kid on bacon and cheese.
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Re: Let’s talk crayfish/mud bugs
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2023, 05:21:16 PM »
let's just make this the annual crawfish thread, can you put 2023 in the title?   :chuckle:   :chuckle:

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Re: Let’s talk crayfish/mud bugs
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2023, 05:22:06 PM »
To the OP

spend money here:
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Re: Let’s talk crayfish/mud bugs
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2023, 05:28:03 PM »
I love the crayster guys, but their gear is pricey.
For bait trout or salmon parts for signal crawfish, anything will work for other species.
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Re: Let’s talk crayfish/mud bugs
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2023, 05:54:48 PM »
Chicken thighs as worked well for me as well as salmon or shad parts. I’ve got plenty in cylinder traps and the square ones. I prefer square ones. I need to go do it again.

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That is a link for a similar one to the ones I’ve used. 40 bucks is way better than 100 or more dollars for something like those craysters stuff. They do the exact same thing and they are 60 bucks cheaper. Even cheaper if you can find some at a local sporting goods store since no shipping.
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Re: 2023 crayfish: Let’s talk crayfish/mud bugs
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2023, 07:38:37 PM »
You got it KF.

Good info guys. I build my own cage traps so a crayfish trap shouldn't be too crazy to do!

I plan on smashing some shad! So might have to put that against some stocker trout carcasses.
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Re: 2023 crayfish: Let’s talk crayfish/mud bugs
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2023, 07:59:20 PM »
You got it KF.

Good info guys. I build my own cage traps so a crayfish trap shouldn't be too crazy to do!

I plan on smashing some shad! So might have to put that against some stocker trout carcasses.
:yeah:
I forgot to mention shad is also very good.  :tup:
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Re: 2023 crayfish: Let’s talk crayfish/mud bugs
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2023, 08:06:56 PM »
I kept a lot of perch from last winter, didn't have too much luck with it last summer but I'm going to mix in attractant from craysters and run it through a big hand grinder

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Re: 2023 crayfish: Let’s talk crayfish/mud bugs
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2023, 08:10:59 PM »
You got it KF.

Good info guys. I build my own cage traps so a crayfish trap shouldn't be too crazy to do!

I plan on smashing some shad! So might have to put that against some stocker trout carcasses.

Carp makin crayfish bait in the near future  :chuckle:


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Re: 2023 crayfish: Let’s talk crayfish/mud bugs
« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2023, 08:31:33 PM »
 :chuckle: Pretty slick setup
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Re: 2023 crayfish: Let’s talk crayfish/mud bugs
« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2023, 08:32:00 PM »
You got it KF.

Good info guys. I build my own cage traps so a crayfish trap shouldn't be too crazy to do!

I plan on smashing some shad! So might have to put that against some stocker trout carcasses.

Carp makin crayfish bait in the near future  :chuckle:

What is that? A wood chipper?
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Re: 2023 crayfish: Let’s talk crayfish/mud bugs
« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2023, 08:44:51 PM »
ya, 100 bux on Amazon  :chuckle:

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Re: 2023 crayfish: Let’s talk crayfish/mud bugs
« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2023, 08:56:58 PM »
ya, 100 bux on Amazon  :chuckle:

Right on  :tup:
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Re: 2023 crayfish: Let’s talk crayfish/mud bugs
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2023, 07:25:54 AM »
Poke a few holes in a can of tuna in oil let it rip
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Re: 2023 crayfish: Let’s talk crayfish/mud bugs
« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2023, 07:30:50 AM »
I kept a lot of perch from last winter, didn't have too much luck with it last summer but I'm going to mix in attractant from craysters and run it through a big hand grinder



Using the wife's food processor on the kitchen counter might not be the recommended method either.

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Re: 2023 crayfish: Let’s talk crayfish/mud bugs
« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2023, 08:22:21 AM »
I heard you want to steer clear of smallmouth for bait because they avoid the smell. Cat food cans with holes poked in worked very well for me when I used to trap the stream by Perry tech. The round trap worked well there.

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Re: 2023 crayfish: Let’s talk crayfish/mud bugs
« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2023, 08:39:02 AM »
Fresh fish for bait is key, preferably the fish from the body of water you are after crawdads in.  Other bait works but fresh fish usually out produces all others.

All traps work some better than others, Terry Bullard style are great and square shrimp pot style with the 1/2" mesh work great too. 

The number one thing you can do regardless of the trap style, this is probably of 90% importance over all else, is to add a bait box and suspend it in the trap so the crawdads have to get into the trap to get the bait.  If the crawdad's can get at the bait from the outside of the trap they will never be trapped.
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Re: 2023 crayfish: Let’s talk crayfish/mud bugs
« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2023, 08:47:55 AM »
I also have some carcasses, kokanee though. Might have to try some of that attractant...need to try some new spots this year. I stayed close to the boat launch for the convenience factor and got my butt kicked last summer.

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Re: 2023 crayfish: Let’s talk crayfish/mud bugs
« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2023, 09:05:29 AM »
I have both cylinder and square (actually rectangle) traps and I get more out of the square. For bait, salmon heads from the grocery store worked the best for me. The store used to sell them to me for a $1.

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Re: 2023 crayfish: Let’s talk crayfish/mud bugs
« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2023, 09:40:00 AM »
I kept a lot of perch from last winter, didn't have too much luck with it last summer but I'm going to mix in attractant from craysters and run it through a big hand grinder



Using the wife's food processor on the kitchen counter might not be the recommended method either.

 :yeah:
Definitely use her food processor in the garage!
Seriously though, I bought a food processer at Goodwill for making shrimp bait. Works like a charm..
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Re: 2023 crayfish: Let’s talk crayfish/mud bugs
« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2023, 12:49:32 PM »
I have both cylinder and square (actually rectangle) traps and I get more out of the square. For bait, salmon heads from the grocery store worked the best for me. The store used to sell them to me for a $1.

We also did well with salmon heads.

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Re: 2023 crayfish: Let’s talk crayfish/mud bugs
« Reply #21 on: May 10, 2023, 01:32:09 PM »
Fresh fish for bait is key, preferably the fish from the body of water you are after crawdads in.  Other bait works but fresh fish usually out produces all others.

All traps work some better than others, Terry Bullard style are great and square shrimp pot style with the 1/2" mesh work great too. 

The number one thing you can do regardless of the trap style, this is probably of 90% importance over all else, is to add a bait box and suspend it in the trap so the crawdads have to get into the trap to get the bait.  If the crawdad's can get at the bait from the outside of the trap they will never be trapped.

Bait box/bag is something I'm adding this year. Thinking about starting with a mesh bag like these. Used to use bigger ones chumming in the Gulf, seems like it will work.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09MCW1GM2/ref=ewc_pr_img_3?smid=AEO4M9C91FN3D&psc=1

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Re: 2023 crayfish: Let’s talk crayfish/mud bugs
« Reply #22 on: May 10, 2023, 01:35:35 PM »
That’s what I’m doing, got a bunch and freeze them

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Re: 2023 crayfish: Let’s talk crayfish/mud bugs
« Reply #23 on: May 10, 2023, 04:31:45 PM »
Some times you just need to kiss it. Keep it simple ?
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Re: 2023 crayfish: Let’s talk crayfish/mud bugs
« Reply #24 on: May 11, 2023, 12:07:58 AM »
Great info y'all. I am going to try to do some building next couple days.

If I remember, I will get some pics.
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Re: 2023 crayfish: Let’s talk crayfish/mud bugs
« Reply #25 on: May 11, 2023, 01:03:32 AM »
Do you guys think a 1.5" fixed opening is big enough to let all crayfish in? Or does it need to be bigger?

Trying to decide if I should do a pivoting door like the crayster, or just a fixed opening.
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Re: 2023 crayfish: Let’s talk crayfish/mud bugs
« Reply #26 on: May 11, 2023, 06:40:30 AM »
I kept a lot of perch from last winter, didn't have too much luck with it last summer but I'm going to mix in attractant from craysters and run it through a big hand grinder



Using the wife's food processor on the kitchen counter might not be the recommended method either.
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Re: 2023 crayfish: Let’s talk crayfish/mud bugs
« Reply #27 on: May 11, 2023, 06:48:04 AM »
Great info y'all. I am going to try to do some building next couple days.

If I remember, I will get some pics.

They recently did a rule change that requires an escape if the gear is lost

Might wanna dig around to see all the requirements

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Re: 2023 crayfish: Let’s talk crayfish/mud bugs
« Reply #28 on: May 11, 2023, 07:38:03 AM »
Yep, just ordered some rot cord myself. Here's the 22-23 regs sheet.

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Re: 2023 crayfish: Let’s talk crayfish/mud bugs
« Reply #29 on: May 11, 2023, 11:42:59 AM »
Yeah I saw that as well. I ordered some jute cord and some pot floats the other day.
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Re: 2023 crayfish: Let’s talk crayfish/mud bugs
« Reply #30 on: May 11, 2023, 02:19:26 PM »
I made it so my lids open with rot cord hinges and ties

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Re: 2023 crayfish: Let’s talk crayfish/mud bugs
« Reply #31 on: May 11, 2023, 05:31:59 PM »
Do you guys think a 1.5" fixed opening is big enough to let all crayfish in? Or does it need to be bigger?

Trying to decide if I should do a pivoting door like the crayster, or just a fixed opening.

All my traps have 3" openings, the biggest crawdads we catch would not fit in a 1.5" door.
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Re: 2023 crayfish: Let’s talk crayfish/mud bugs
« Reply #32 on: May 11, 2023, 08:00:29 PM »
Good deal. I built one today with a little down time between projects.

It has a 1.5” opening but flap doors like the crayster guys square traps.
They open to around 4” if needed then drop back down.

Going to give a cylinder trap a go next.
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« Reply #33 on: May 13, 2023, 09:09:30 PM »
The crayster guys gear is really easy and cheap to make. The key is the barbs on the entry points that keep them from crawling out. This is What makes them so much better then the minis traps you can buy.

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« Reply #34 on: May 13, 2023, 09:14:49 PM »
I heard you want to steer clear of smallmouth for bait because they avoid the smell. Cat food cans with holes poked in worked very well for me when I used to trap the stream by Perry tech. The round trap worked well there.

The only time I ever put out craw traps without getting some was with smallmouth carcs. But I did catch some catfish.. salmon and shad is probably the best. Canned food works but not very well.

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Re: 2023 crayfish: Let’s talk crayfish/mud bugs
« Reply #35 on: May 13, 2023, 09:19:33 PM »
Do you guys think a 1.5" fixed opening is big enough to let all crayfish in? Or does it need to be bigger?

Trying to decide if I should do a pivoting door like the crayster, or just a fixed opening.

Our craws get huge I don’t think that’s big enough. More like 2.5”

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Re: 2023 crayfish: Let’s talk crayfish/mud bugs
« Reply #36 on: May 13, 2023, 10:10:05 PM »
I played with the design a little and got it pretty dang good "I think" with a 1.5" opening that has the flap doors with barbs.That will open to 4" if bigger ones need to push in.

I got about 75% done with 2 cylinder traps today. Spent some time coming up with a bait container that is suspended in the middle so the little thieves can't eat without going in. Like shrimper was talking about.
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« Reply #38 on: June 12, 2023, 10:41:23 AM »
Gotta be some boils going on by now....

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« Reply #39 on: June 15, 2023, 02:12:25 PM »
Still haven't got my pots out yet. Going to try a different area than Lake Wa, just need the right week where I'm not so busy and have some evenings to set and check pots!

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« Reply #41 on: June 17, 2023, 01:48:43 PM »
Cool vid!  :tup:
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