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Re: What makes a big buck
« Reply #105 on: June 17, 2023, 09:11:54 PM »
That buck has a 3” and 5” point and doesn’t meet some of your “big buck” criteria because it only scores 169”!

 Only 169”, but the 40”+ of mass and frame make it a giant…even with a 3” and 5” point! Had it matched the other sides, it would have been well over the 180 mark…but according to some on here, not a “big buck” :chuckle:

 I have several bucks over 180 in this state, topped the 200” mark last season, and have never looked at “score” while sizing up a buck. Again for me, it’s all about mass!
 
 Find a buck with mass and you have found a “mature” buck…which is all my family looks for.  :twocents:


You got a 200" buck last season?
No way!
Pics or it didn't happen!


(Disclaimer:    I've seen the rack and even took some pics.   It's a great buck.)    :chuckle: :chuckle:
Let's see it!! It's too bad a lot of guys dont put up pictures on here anymore. I wanna see all the pictures

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He’s a true giant! Good news is that I watched him breed two different doe’s 13 times so the gene is still around. Also I thought he’d go 200 when I laid eyes on him and phool is being very modest cause he ended up closer to 210 than 200.

What makes a big buck? I don’t know I’m still looking for one!  :dunno:  :chuckle:
In all seriousness many have already made good points about what to look for but one thing I might add without repeating much of what has already been said. An official scorer told me one thing that makes a huge difference in determining deep forks is where the fork starts. Of coarse this wouldn’t matter unless your looking for a high scoring buck but in other words I now look for the fork to start closer to the main beam. You can be fooled by a large frame that appears deep and then loose 10-15 inch cause the forks are half way up from the main beam. It’s actually really quick to see once your looking for it!
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Re: What makes a big buck
« Reply #106 on: June 18, 2023, 06:51:21 AM »
IT might be a shooter if when it turns its head, the tree moves as well...in my best jeff Foxworthy voice.

I'm trying to find one of those 200 inch 4 points.   They are just safer to pack out than one of those with points going in every direction, a guy could lose an eye packing one of those beasts out, especially in two feet of snow.  :chuckle: 

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Re: What makes a big buck
« Reply #107 on: June 18, 2023, 08:17:00 AM »
An example of what MRay is talking about…..

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Re: What makes a big buck
« Reply #108 on: June 18, 2023, 09:16:54 AM »
Yes! Thanks Bone, of coarse this is if you looking for score on a typical frame. IMO a heavy buck with character can still have a big frame with inlines and extra points can make up for typical deep forks in score. My avitar buck does not have deep forks to the mains I refer to for instance but it does have a large frame and extras that make up for it and scores high. I also think sometimes a large frame can seem like there isn’t as much mass but it had 35” of mass scores.
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Re: What makes a big buck
« Reply #109 on: June 19, 2023, 05:12:45 PM »
I think when a deer gets a 180” frame is when they look/are big.
What does that buck score in your avatar.
If you don't mind me asking.
I've never had a buck scored,or scored a buck,
Just pictures and sports shows and stores where it shows the score.

I also want to say it's bigger than it looks,cause your sitting next to it.
And not two arm length behind it. :chuckle:

I taped him at 185/186”.   He’s a little weak in the back end, but pretty good everywhere else and 4.5” brows help for sure.  27” wide.

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Re: What makes a big buck
« Reply #110 on: June 19, 2023, 05:22:38 PM »
I think when a deer gets a 180” frame is when they look/are big.
What does that buck score in your avatar.
If you don't mind me asking.
I've never had a buck scored,or scored a buck,
Just pictures and sports shows and stores where it shows the score.

I also want to say it's bigger than it looks,cause your sitting next to it.
And not two arm length behind it. :chuckle:

I taped him at 185/186”.   He’s a little weak in the back end, but pretty good everywhere else and 4.5” brows help for sure.  27” wide.
He is a giant.
Sweet looking deer.
Stud deer.

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Re: What makes a big buck
« Reply #111 on: June 19, 2023, 11:07:28 PM »
I think when a deer gets a 180” frame is when they look/are big.
What does that buck score in your avatar.
If you don't mind me asking.
I've never had a buck scored,or scored a buck,
Just pictures and sports shows and stores where it shows the score.

I also want to say it's bigger than it looks,cause your sitting next to it.
And not two arm length behind it. :chuckle:

I taped him at 185/186”.   He’s a little weak in the back end, but pretty good everywhere else and 4.5” brows help for sure.  27” wide.

 “Big Buck” and stud for sure! :tup:
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Re: What makes a big buck
« Reply #112 on: June 19, 2023, 11:10:26 PM »
That buck has a 3” and 5” point and doesn’t meet some of your “big buck” criteria because it only scores 169”!

 Only 169”, but the 40”+ of mass and frame make it a giant…even with a 3” and 5” point! Had it matched the other sides, it would have been well over the 180 mark…but according to some on here, not a “big buck” :chuckle:

 I have several bucks over 180 in this state, topped the 200” mark last season, and have never looked at “score” while sizing up a buck. Again for me, it’s all about mass!
 
 Find a buck with mass and you have found a “mature” buck…which is all my family looks for.  :twocents:
The amount of people that say they saw a 200” buck when in reality it was probably a 170-180 always blows my mind. Biggest buck I’ve seen in WA was probably 180-190. I’ve only seen real absolute giants in either MT or ID while hunting but they were on private land we didn’t have access too.

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Re: What makes a big buck
« Reply #113 on: June 21, 2023, 08:35:22 PM »
I usually pay attention to mass and the back forks on a mule deer. I always say mass trumps width. But that’s just my opinion.

Or mass on the back forks? 

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Re: What makes a big buck
« Reply #114 on: June 21, 2023, 08:36:21 PM »
That’s awesome

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Re: What makes a big buck
« Reply #115 on: June 21, 2023, 08:56:59 PM »
Some tines are just built for war

 


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