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« Last Edit: August 11, 2023, 06:50:44 PM by MADMAX »
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Re: Electric trucks ? No thank you
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2023, 10:35:46 PM »
I agree with the general premise and it's a good example of the limitations of EV's but...that dude also sounds like a moron.

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Re: Electric trucks ? No thank you
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2023, 11:52:45 PM »
The truck owner is an idiot.

The truck came with a charger. He didn’t have to spend a bunch of money upgrading chargers. Why would he pay big money to install a charger where he works? That doesn’t make any sense. He chose to do this. Didn’t have to.

You’re only supposed to charge them to 90%.

Ford has an app with all the charging stations. You can map out trips ahead of time so there aren’t any surprises. It’s incredibly easy to do.

All of his “surprises” are totally 100% normal except for maybe an inoperative charging station but I talk to multiple people per day and I’ve never heard of a charger that didn’t work.

The 6 months in the body shop had something to do with the truck being electric? Or was it there because of also well known supply chain issues that have nothing to do with the lightning?
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Re: Electric trucks ? No thank you
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2023, 11:58:30 PM »
Also msrp for a lightning starts at $50k. A full load platinum lightning is $95k roughly. So he’s also an idiot for paying $20k or more over Msrp for an electric truck that he “needed for work”.

Why would you buy a truck that won’t make it to your cabin without needing to be charged before you got there? Dumb purchase.

This guy deserves what he got. 
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Re: Electric trucks ? No thank you
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2023, 06:34:30 AM »
The truck owner is an idiot.

The truck came with a charger. He didn’t have to spend a bunch of money upgrading chargers. Why would he pay big money to install a charger where he works? That doesn’t make any sense. He chose to do this. Didn’t have to.

You’re only supposed to charge them to 90%.

Ford has an app with all the charging stations. You can map out trips ahead of time so there aren’t any surprises. It’s incredibly easy to do.

All of his “surprises” are totally 100% normal except for maybe an inoperative charging station but I talk to multiple people per day and I’ve never heard of a charger that didn’t work.

The 6 months in the body shop had something to do with the truck being electric? Or was it there because of also well known supply chain issues that have nothing to do with the lightning?

100% spot on.

The energy density of gas / diesel combined with wide availability of gas stations has idiot proofed a lot of the planning that should go into traveling. Somehow even with that people still run out of gas. I wonder how many times this dude got stranded before he wasted his money on a truck with less range and fewer charging options.
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Re: Electric trucks ? No thank you
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2023, 07:28:30 AM »
I just got scammed by Toyota. I have a 42' 5th wheel toy hauler that I can put my Jeep Wrangler in the back of and I bought a 2023 Toyota Tacoma to haul it with because I didn't do any research and don't know what it will tow but it's a sweet truck and it's blue so I thought it would tow it. First I couldn't get the Uhaul guys to install a 5th wheel hitch in it. Finally got the guys at Walmart to install one. First time I hooked my trailer up to it, the bumper hit the ground instantly. Then I tried to tow it to the gas station so I could fill the truck up with gas and the frikkin thing wouldn't even move. What a scam.  I can't even put gas in this piece of crap. What the heck, Toyota!!! Why are you selling these piles of junk!! They can't even tow anything!!

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Re: Electric trucks ? No thank you
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2023, 08:05:35 AM »
Also msrp for a lightning starts at $50k. A full load platinum lightning is $95k roughly. So he’s also an idiot for paying $20k or more over Msrp for an electric truck that he “needed for work”.

Why would you buy a truck that won’t make it to your cabin without needing to be charged before you got there? Dumb purchase.

This guy deserves what he got.

I bet it was $115,000 CAD, so closer to $85,000 USD. Still way more than I'd pay for a half ton.

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Re: Electric trucks ? No thank you
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2023, 08:12:26 AM »
I just got scammed by Toyota. I have a 42' 5th wheel toy hauler that I can put my Jeep Wrangler in the back of and I bought a 2023 Toyota Tacoma to haul it with because I didn't do any research and don't know what it will tow but it's a sweet truck and it's blue so I thought it would tow it. First I couldn't get the Uhaul guys to install a 5th wheel hitch in it. Finally got the guys at Walmart to install one. First time I hooked my trailer up to it, the bumper hit the ground instantly. Then I tried to tow it to the gas station so I could fill the truck up with gas and the frikkin thing wouldn't even move. What a scam.  I can't even put gas in this piece of crap. What the heck, Toyota!!! Why are you selling these piles of junk!! They can't even tow anything!!
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Re: Electric trucks ? No thank you
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2023, 08:34:32 AM »
I just got scammed by Toyota. I have a 42' 5th wheel toy hauler that I can put my Jeep Wrangler in the back of and I bought a 2023 Toyota Tacoma to haul it with because I didn't do any research and don't know what it will tow but it's a sweet truck and it's blue so I thought it would tow it. First I couldn't get the Uhaul guys to install a 5th wheel hitch in it. Finally got the guys at Walmart to install one. First time I hooked my trailer up to it, the bumper hit the ground instantly. Then I tried to tow it to the gas station so I could fill the truck up with gas and the frikkin thing wouldn't even move. What a scam.  I can't even put gas in this piece of crap. What the heck, Toyota!!! Why are you selling these piles of junk!! They can't even tow anything!!

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Re: Electric trucks ? No thank you
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2023, 08:36:35 AM »
I just got scammed by Toyota. I have a 42' 5th wheel toy hauler that I can put my Jeep Wrangler in the back of and I bought a 2023 Toyota Tacoma to haul it with because I didn't do any research and don't know what it will tow but it's a sweet truck and it's blue so I thought it would tow it. First I couldn't get the Uhaul guys to install a 5th wheel hitch in it. Finally got the guys at Walmart to install one. First time I hooked my trailer up to it, the bumper hit the ground instantly. Then I tried to tow it to the gas station so I could fill the truck up with gas and the frikkin thing wouldn't even move. What a scam.  I can't even put gas in this piece of crap. What the heck, Toyota!!! Why are you selling these piles of junk!! They can't even tow anything!!

Not to mention the frames fall off!
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Re: Electric trucks ? No thank you
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2023, 08:57:48 AM »
I just got scammed by Toyota. I have a 42' 5th wheel toy hauler that I can put my Jeep Wrangler in the back of and I bought a 2023 Toyota Tacoma to haul it with because I didn't do any research and don't know what it will tow but it's a sweet truck and it's blue so I thought it would tow it. First I couldn't get the Uhaul guys to install a 5th wheel hitch in it. Finally got the guys at Walmart to install one. First time I hooked my trailer up to it, the bumper hit the ground instantly. Then I tried to tow it to the gas station so I could fill the truck up with gas and the frikkin thing wouldn't even move. What a scam.  I can't even put gas in this piece of crap. What the heck, Toyota!!! Why are you selling these piles of junk!! They can't even tow anything!!

Not to mention the frames fall off!
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Re: Electric trucks ? No thank you
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2023, 09:08:49 AM »
I just got scammed by Toyota. I have a 42' 5th wheel toy hauler that I can put my Jeep Wrangler in the back of and I bought a 2023 Toyota Tacoma to haul it with because I didn't do any research and don't know what it will tow but it's a sweet truck and it's blue so I thought it would tow it. First I couldn't get the Uhaul guys to install a 5th wheel hitch in it. Finally got the guys at Walmart to install one. First time I hooked my trailer up to it, the bumper hit the ground instantly. Then I tried to tow it to the gas station so I could fill the truck up with gas and the frikkin thing wouldn't even move. What a scam.  I can't even put gas in this piece of crap. What the heck, Toyota!!! Why are you selling these piles of junk!! They can't even tow anything!!

Not to mention the frames fall off!
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Re: Electric trucks ? No thank you
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2023, 09:55:19 AM »
I think I seen somewhere that America was like number 26 in the world when it comes to MATH.

Whats the ole saying?   Figures don't lie, but liars figure!!

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Re: Electric trucks ? No thank you
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2023, 10:31:23 AM »
Reading through the complaints over the years on EVs reminds me of what would have been discussed 100 years ago with the transition from horses to gas powered vehicles.  I am sure that there were discussions that "those worthless gas cars can't even clear a downed tree in the path...  my horse can simply step over the log.  you can only go 80 miles... where my horse can go for hundreds...  cost of maintaining a car is more than a horse... gas station infrastructure is lame here in 1923.. yaddah yaddah."   As a shade tree mechanic who struggles with finding the correct trouble code to diagnose some ridiculous faulty sensor to get my gas powered truck running.... I am looking forward to less complication in my vehicle.  And the one thing EV trucks have that I am really looking forward to is the comical amount of torque an electric motor produces.  Take a ride in a Rivian some day and you will clearly see that Electric Trucks will be far superior to overly complicated gas engines.  EV truck technology is not there yet and I have no plans to get one until I can tow my boat or trailer across the state without having to stop every 100 miles to recharge.  I am a patient man and will wait for the technology to evolve.  It took 100 years to go from a Model T to a modern F350. Current EVs aren't a magic bullet but, humans are very creative... we will figure it out.
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Re: Electric trucks ? No thank you
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2023, 10:36:29 AM »
Reading through the complaints over the years on EVs reminds me of what would have been discussed 100 years ago with the transition from horses to gas powered vehicles.  I am sure that there were discussions that "those worthless gas cars can't even clear a downed tree in the path...  my horse can simply step over the log.  you can only go 80 miles... where my horse can go for hundreds...  cost of maintaining a car is more than a horse... gas station infrastructure is lame here in 1923.. yaddah yaddah."   As a shade tree mechanic who struggles with finding the correct trouble code to diagnose some ridiculous faulty sensor to get my gas powered truck running.... I am looking forward to less complication in my vehicle.  And the one thing EV trucks have that I am really looking forward to is the comical amount of torque an electric motor produces.  Take a ride in a Rivian some day and you will clearly see that Electric Trucks will be far superior to overly complicated gas engines.  EV truck technology is not there yet and I have no plans to get one until I can tow my boat or trailer across the state without having to stop every 100 miles to recharge.  I am a patient man and will wait for the technology to evolve.  It took 100 years to go from a Model T to a modern F350. Current EVs aren't a magic bullet but, humans are very creative... we will figure it out.

If it will be 100 years before I can pull my 28' camp trailer over the North Cascades Highway with an electric truck, well.....................
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