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Offline huntnnw

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Re: Baiting
« Reply #30 on: August 26, 2023, 08:27:52 AM »
I know a guy who lost his license for 5 years for " intent to hunt bear over bait", and was told also that if you are even hunting deer/elk over bait and have a bear tag in your pocket, you are guilty of intent.  Make no mistake, if you get the ticket, you wont get out of it even with a lawyer.


This is a fact, it happened to a guy I know, its not some random thought I had.

Only way they would know that is if you offered up that info to a warden. Good luck looking on my persons for it

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Re: Baiting
« Reply #31 on: August 26, 2023, 08:29:35 AM »
I know a guy who lost his license for 5 years for " intent to hunt bear over bait", and was told also that if you are even hunting deer/elk over bait and have a bear tag in your pocket, you are guilty of intent.  Make no mistake, if you get the ticket, you wont get out of it even with a lawyer.
I feel like there has to be a lot more to this story/case.  Not doubting the outcome or what you posted, but it seems like a whole lot of additional contexts and facts would be necessary to have this as an outcome. 
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Re: Baiting
« Reply #32 on: August 26, 2023, 09:01:04 AM »
 :yeah:

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Re: Baiting
« Reply #33 on: August 26, 2023, 09:07:55 AM »
Of course there's more to it than the outcome, but I'm not at the liberty of sharing details. 

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Re: Baiting
« Reply #34 on: August 26, 2023, 09:13:44 AM »
I know a guy who lost his license for 5 years for " intent to hunt bear over bait", and was told also that if you are even hunting deer/elk over bait and have a bear tag in your pocket, you are guilty of intent.  Make no mistake, if you get the ticket, you wont get out of it even with a lawyer.
I feel like there has to be a lot more to this story/case.  Not doubting the outcome or what you posted, but it seems like a whole lot of additional contexts and facts would be necessary to have this as an outcome.

Maybe. Seems like they let repeat offenders off easily and then pick a random guy to throw the book at every once in a while so hard telling.

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Re: Baiting
« Reply #35 on: August 26, 2023, 10:57:33 AM »
I know a guy who lost his license for 5 years for " intent to hunt bear over bait", and was told also that if you are even hunting deer/elk over bait and have a bear tag in your pocket, you are guilty of intent.  Make no mistake, if you get the ticket, you wont get out of it even with a lawyer.
I feel like there has to be a lot more to this story/case.  Not doubting the outcome or what you posted, but it seems like a whole lot of additional contexts and facts would be necessary to have this as an outcome.
:yeah:
Usually the result is part of the negotiations and prosecutors love to expedite nr crimes with reasonable outcomes.

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Re: Baiting
« Reply #36 on: August 26, 2023, 01:06:51 PM »
a different perspective:

- I personally won’t break any fish and game laws.

- there are some WDFW game laws I agree with, and some I don’t.

- If I catch someone doing something illegal and unethical (ie a law I agree with) I’ll turn em in.

- If I see someone doing something illegal but I don’t agree with the law being broken, I’ll probably turn my blind eye towards said activity.

IE if I was the OP I woulda just looked for a new site (or sat the travel route to the bait 400 yards away). Same thing if I see someone shoot an extra large coyote, etc…

As has been pointed out, our days hunting bear and cougar in WA are limited, unless the lawsuit against Inslee succeeds and we get a balanced commission.

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Re: Baiting
« Reply #37 on: August 26, 2023, 01:18:52 PM »
So  if I'm sitting watching a salt block and a bear comes in and Mr. warden sees me watching the bear without a hint of harassing it, I can get cited? Ill take my chances.

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Re: Baiting
« Reply #38 on: August 26, 2023, 03:55:19 PM »
So  if I'm sitting watching a salt block and a bear comes in and Mr. warden sees me watching the bear without a hint of harassing it, I can get cited? Ill take my chances.

I definitely won't be hunting over salt to shoot this little dink.
3 month soak,only bear on the cam.
Pulled cam,took salt with me.
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Re: Baiting
« Reply #39 on: August 26, 2023, 04:57:50 PM »
I have 6 different bears using mine. Sows, boars, cubs, 5 or6 bucks, moose, 2 coyotes, turkeys, rabbits, several does and fawns. I haven't had any elk for 2 months, but they do show up occasionally. I think getting a ticket for having a tag in your pocket would be like getting a DWI for having a 6 pack in your front seat unopened. It aint happening!

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Re: Baiting
« Reply #40 on: August 26, 2023, 04:59:14 PM »
I have 6 different bears using mine. Sows, boars, cubs, 5 or6 bucks, moose, 2 coyotes, turkeys, rabbits, several does and fawns. I haven't had any elk for 2 months, but they do show up occasionally. I think getting a ticket for having a tag in your pocket would be like getting a DWI for having a 6 pack in your front seat unopened. It aint happening!
I agree,that would be the equivalent.
« Last Edit: August 26, 2023, 06:08:40 PM by hunter399 »

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Re: Baiting
« Reply #41 on: August 26, 2023, 06:48:56 PM »
Sitting in a tree stand with alfalfa out during archery deer/elk and a bear comes in. Are we all saying I could not shoot said bear because of my alfalfa out that the bear has zero intent on consuming and was not the reason it passed through?
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Re: Baiting
« Reply #42 on: August 26, 2023, 08:35:45 PM »
Sitting in a tree stand with alfalfa out during archery deer/elk and a bear comes in. Are we all saying I could not shoot said bear because of my alfalfa out that the bear has zero intent on consuming and was not the reason it passed through?
Not saying you can't shoot it. That's up to you.
Just as it's up to the warden to interpret what an attractant is.
Seems the same exact situation as salt to me.
Bear is not gonna eat my salt block,at the same time if a warden decides salt block or alfalfa is an attractant then that's another story.

Not saying what I would do,not saying what's legal or not.
My advise would be to keep that part of your harvest story to yourself. In that situation.
That's all I'm saying.
I have heard a few story's of archery hunters shooting bears,with corn,apples, alfalfa,sweet cob,and such.
Never heard of any getting trouble.
But I'm not them,and I don't believe they told many people.
And I don't archery hunt ,so it not a problem that I have.
But I do use salt blocks,and check my cams. That's where my problem lies.
« Last Edit: August 26, 2023, 08:42:04 PM by hunter399 »

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Re: Baiting
« Reply #43 on: August 26, 2023, 08:43:58 PM »
I would not shoot around my salt either. It is defiantly an attractant, The bears love it. I also use alfalfa pellets, deer and moose like that and elk when their around.

 


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