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Re: Bergara wilderness terrain 6.5 scope mounting options???
« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2023, 02:32:43 PM »
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https://www.murphyprecision.com/remington-700-short-action/

(assuming it is a Rem 700 short action clone.  Also make sure you know which screws are needed so you get the correct one.)  Best base on the market in my opinion. 

As for rings....any quality ring with 4 screws per scope ring would be my choice.  I would stick with aluminum for the rings for weight and because it's a 6.5 creed.  Most importantly, I would learn how to mount a scope and proper torque specs for bases, ring windage screws and ring screws.  Clean all serfaces and threads with alcohol prior to mounting.  Use blue loctite. 

The nice thing about remington 700 clones is the base, though expensive will fit on many many rifles. 

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Re: Bergara wilderness terrain 6.5 scope mounting options???
« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2023, 02:37:08 PM »
murphyprecision

https://www.murphyprecision.com/remington-700-short-action/

(assuming it is a Rem 700 short action clone.  Also make sure you know which screws are needed so you get the correct one.)  Best base on the market in my opinion. 

As for rings....any quality ring with 4 screws per scope ring would be my choice.  I would stick with aluminum for the rings for weight and because it's a 6.5 creed.  Most importantly, I would learn how to mount a scope and proper torque specs for bases, ring windage screws and ring screws.  Clean all serfaces and threads with alcohol prior to mounting.  Use blue loctite. 

The nice thing about remington 700 clones is the base, though expensive will fit on many many rifles.

I plan to go through every step properly mounting and cleaning before hitting the range day. And then trying to do the proper break in proccess for the rifle barrel. The only part I would have a question on with the break in proccess per manufacture reccommendation is when cleaning the gun inbetween shots does one also clean any and all copperfouling as well? Have done a lot of shooting over the years with great accuracy but also trying to learn better with small things I may have overlooked over the years.
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Re: Bergara wilderness terrain 6.5 scope mounting options???
« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2023, 03:01:16 PM »
murphyprecision

https://www.murphyprecision.com/remington-700-short-action/

(assuming it is a Rem 700 short action clone.  Also make sure you know which screws are needed so you get the correct one.)  Best base on the market in my opinion. 

As for rings....any quality ring with 4 screws per scope ring would be my choice.  I would stick with aluminum for the rings for weight and because it's a 6.5 creed.  Most importantly, I would learn how to mount a scope and proper torque specs for bases, ring windage screws and ring screws.  Clean all serfaces and threads with alcohol prior to mounting.  Use blue loctite. 

The nice thing about remington 700 clones is the base, though expensive will fit on many many rifles.

I plan to go through every step properly mounting and cleaning before hitting the range day. And then trying to do the proper break in proccess for the rifle barrel. The only part I would have a question on with the break in proccess per manufacture reccommendation is when cleaning the gun inbetween shots does one also clean any and all copperfouling as well? Have done a lot of shooting over the years with great accuracy but also trying to learn better with small things I may have overlooked over the years.

Barrel break in is a horrible topic to bring up on a hunting forum..... :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: 

I have never really bought into the whole barrel break in hoopla....and all my rifles with handloads shoot well under 1MOA.  I have some rifles that shoot 1/2 or better MOA.  When I have a new barrel, I just don't heat it up by stringing shots.....but then again, I don't do that with old barrels either.  I clean at least once a year or when groups start to open up due to barrel fowling (usually 50+ rounds).  I have tried different break in methods and found no significant improvement in accuracy.  Just my two cents. 

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Re: Bergara wilderness terrain 6.5 scope mounting options???
« Reply #18 on: August 17, 2023, 03:48:29 PM »
murphyprecision

https://www.murphyprecision.com/remington-700-short-action/

(assuming it is a Rem 700 short action clone.  Also make sure you know which screws are needed so you get the correct one.)  Best base on the market in my opinion. 

As for rings....any quality ring with 4 screws per scope ring would be my choice.  I would stick with aluminum for the rings for weight and because it's a 6.5 creed.  Most importantly, I would learn how to mount a scope and proper torque specs for bases, ring windage screws and ring screws.  Clean all serfaces and threads with alcohol prior to mounting.  Use blue loctite. 

The nice thing about remington 700 clones is the base, though expensive will fit on many many rifles.

I plan to go through every step properly mounting and cleaning before hitting the range day. And then trying to do the proper break in proccess for the rifle barrel. The only part I would have a question on with the break in proccess per manufacture reccommendation is when cleaning the gun inbetween shots does one also clean any and all copperfouling as well? Have done a lot of shooting over the years with great accuracy but also trying to learn better with small things I may have overlooked over the years.

Barrel break in is a horrible topic to bring up on a hunting forum..... :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: 

I have never really bought into the whole barrel break in hoopla....and all my rifles with handloads shoot well under 1MOA.  I have some rifles that shoot 1/2 or better MOA.  When I have a new barrel, I just don't heat it up by stringing shots.....but then again, I don't do that with old barrels either.  I clean at least once a year or when groups start to open up due to barrel fowling (usually 50+ rounds).  I have tried different break in methods and found no significant improvement in accuracy.  Just my two cents.

I hear what you mean on that. Every barrel is different even if it is the same. You can never test a barrel twice to see the difference so how does one truely know if it helped. Lol
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Re: Bergara wilderness terrain 6.5 scope mounting options???
« Reply #19 on: August 19, 2023, 08:57:37 PM »
Time will tell now. Gun is set up and ready for the range. Took a few hours taking my time cleaning, prepping and mounting everything. Should be solid.

Bergara 6.5 Wilderness Terrain
Vortex Viper HST 4x16x44mm objective,  30 mm tube
Vortex level bubble mounted on scope
Nightforce 0 MOA base and low ultralight rings.

It is set up about the best I can do for myself. Really hopeful in it being a good shooter for my circumstances.

Will start off with factory 143gr ELDX to build on some brass and such before reloading.
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Little update on the rifle. Factory rounds in my rifle have not gone well. But it allowed me some brass to start reloading. And got the break in proccess done during that time frame. Never sure where to start with seating depths with different bullets. But loaded 140 gr Accubonds. A couple powder choices Hodgdon 4350 and Superformance. Superformance did better on accuracy, pressure, and speed overall. Staying 1.8 grains under max in book I am very comfortable with the load. And getting 2800 fps. But shooting 15 thousands off the lands gets me better accuracy than 5 thousands or 25 thousands. Not sure everyone elses preference but would love to hear.

Accuracy wise
100 yards 4 shot groups
.85 inch
1.05 inch
1.15 inch
If I was shooting 3 shot groups they would have been .75 to .9 inch range. So not bad with great velocity for a 6.5 creedmoore. With a good hunting bullet. Will load more in near future and reach out further to test out to 400 yards. And when I can I will try lighter 130 gr range bullets to compare accuracy.
I can say starting out the gun has been picky about factory loads and seating depth for accuracy as well as easily gets signs of pressure compared to my other rifles but I am off to a decent start I think.
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Little update on the rifle. Factory rounds in my rifle have not gone well. But it allowed me some brass to start reloading. And got the break in proccess done during that time frame. Never sure where to start with seating depths with different bullets. But loaded 140 gr Accubonds. A couple powder choices Hodgdon 4350 and Superformance. Superformance did better on accuracy, pressure, and speed overall. Staying 1.8 grains under max in book I am very comfortable with the load. And getting 2800 fps. But shooting 15 thousands off the lands gets me better accuracy than 5 thousands or 25 thousands. Not sure everyone elses preference but would love to hear.

Accuracy wise
100 yards 4 shot groups
.85 inch
1.05 inch
1.15 inch
If I was shooting 3 shot groups they would have been .75 to .9 inch range. So not bad with great velocity for a 6.5 creedmoore. With a good hunting bullet. Will load more in near future and reach out further to test out to 400 yards. And when I can I will try lighter 130 gr range bullets to compare accuracy.
I can say starting out the gun has been picky about factory loads and seating depth for accuracy as well as easily gets signs of pressure compared to my other rifles but I am off to a decent start I think.

Great bullet and sounds like good accuracy.  As for preference with seating depth.....whatever is most accurate is what I would go with.  I have never used superformance but have had great accuracy with H4350.  I still load the 140 grain accubonds for 6.5 creedmoor....but have started making the switch to 124 grain Hammer Hunters.  If you are getting 2800 fps with 140 accubonds, I would suspect you could get close to 3000 fps with 124 grain HH.  I have killed with both accubonds and HH's and both are killing machines. 

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In load developments that we've done, H4350 and Reloader 16 were always the last 2 powders standing. Reloader 16 ended up as the front runner, H4350 a very close second.  10k off the lands was the normal, Berger bullets also.  My personal rifles preferred Sierra TMK and TGK in the 130gr variety.  I prefer the velocity increase the 130's allow.   :twocents:

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After loading a batch to go site in with. The load came out .003 shorter average then my prior testing.
100 yards 3 shots - 1.5 inch
200 yards 4 shot group and 5 shot group- 4 inches
300 yards 4 shot group- 5.5 inches.

Down right awful

Just made the decision to try lighter bullets. So have 130 gr berger vld hunting bullets and Lapua LRP pocket brass on order. Will see what difference that makes. Components have been a bit scarce to come by but that should be an accurate combo. To say I am a bit frustrated starting out is an understatement. All I read about on bergara is nothing but good things. So we will see. But 140s have been crazy bad groups to times it shows promising at 100 yards but 300 yards has been horrible consistantly. So not set on 140s even though the twist rate says 140s are good.

I am looking forward to trying large rifle primers over small rifle primers with the new brass.
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