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Fish checkers
« on: August 27, 2023, 05:46:38 PM »
Took two buddy’s out today and came back with one silver and 5 pinks. I have been going out quite a bit so the same fish checker gal has checked me numerous times. Today when I pulled in I told her we had a silver so she could get her little wand to scan it as I went to get the truck. She was all excited and ran back to her stuff and went down to my boat. She opens the cooler and tells my buddies I think this is a sockeye. They both are avid coho fisherman and said ahh no I don’t think so. She says” I’ll take a picture and send it to my boss and let you know “ she takes her phone and snaps a picture and sets her phone on the edge of the cooler lid that is standing straight up. Of course she bumps the lid and the phone falls straight into the cooler with 5” of blood and water and 6 fish in it. She,all flustered grabs her phone jumps out and walks off without her wand scanner we had to go return it to her.
Does anybody know if these people doing the checks are volunteers or college students that are trying to go in to the field as a biologist or what. She is super nice and all but the reason I ask is I wonder how accurate are counts are if they can’t identify fish species correctly.
Edited: apparently I need the classes to better identify the fish 😳
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Re: Fish checkers
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2023, 06:03:22 PM »
We had a federal game warden check us at a National Wildlife refuge in the parking lot. We had to explain to him what species of ducks and geese we had were- he honestly did not know. But he did give my brother a ticket for out of date registration on his pick up. So yeah, I have concerns for the accuracy of their counts.
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Re: Fish checkers
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2023, 06:11:23 PM »
Took two buddy’s out today and came back with one silver and 5 pinks. I have been going out quite a bit so the same fish checker gal has checked me numerous times. Today when I pulled in I told her we had a silver so she could get her little wand to scan it as I went to get the truck. She was all excited and ran back to her stuff and went down to my boat. She opens the cooler and tells my buddies I think this is a sockeye. They both are avid coho fisherman and said ahh no I don’t think so. She says” I’ll take a picture and send it to my boss and let you know “ she takes her phone and snaps a picture and sets her phone on the edge of the cooler lid that is standing straight up. Of course she bumps the lid and the phone falls straight into the cooler with 5” of blood and water and 6 fish in it. She,all flustered grabs her phone jumps out and walks off without her wand scanner we had to go return it to her.
Does anybody know if these people doing the checks are volunteers or college students that are trying to go in to the field as a biologist or what. She is super nice and all but the reason I ask is I wonder how accurate are counts are if they can’t identify fish species correctly.
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Re: Fish checkers
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2023, 06:30:22 PM »
Had federal game warden's and state wardens pull into our decoy spread to check us. We had our ducks on sperate stringers to prove who had what. The state wardens said I was over my limit on pintails. I pulled out my waterfowl ID cards and said what he thought were pintails were actually immature widgeon. The federal wardens said I was correct. The state guy was at the boat launch and started it all over again. Got his name and badge number and sent it to the game department.
Never got a response from them, go figure.
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Re: Fish checkers
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2023, 07:21:40 PM »
Took two buddy’s out today and came back with one silver and 5 pinks. I have been going out quite a bit so the same fish checker gal has checked me numerous times. Today when I pulled in I told her we had a silver so she could get her little wand to scan it as I went to get the truck. She was all excited and ran back to her stuff and went down to my boat. She opens the cooler and tells my buddies I think this is a sockeye. They both are avid coho fisherman and said ahh no I don’t think so. She says” I’ll take a picture and send it to my boss and let you know “ she takes her phone and snaps a picture and sets her phone on the edge of the cooler lid that is standing straight up. Of course she bumps the lid and the phone falls straight into the cooler with 5” of blood and water and 6 fish in it. She,all flustered grabs her phone jumps out and walks off without her wand scanner we had to go return it to her.
Does anybody know if these people doing the checks are volunteers or college students that are trying to go in to the field as a biologist or what. She is super nice and all but the reason I ask is I wonder how accurate are counts are if they can’t identify fish species correctly.

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Re: Fish checkers
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2023, 07:35:48 PM »
Took two buddy’s out today and came back with one silver and 5 pinks. I have been going out quite a bit so the same fish checker gal has checked me numerous times. Today when I pulled in I told her we had a silver so she could get her little wand to scan it as I went to get the truck. She was all excited and ran back to her stuff and went down to my boat. She opens the cooler and tells my buddies I think this is a sockeye. They both are avid coho fisherman and said ahh no I don’t think so. She says” I’ll take a picture and send it to my boss and let you know “ she takes her phone and snaps a picture and sets her phone on the edge of the cooler lid that is standing straight up. Of course she bumps the lid and the phone falls straight into the cooler with 5” of blood and water and 6 fish in it. She,all flustered grabs her phone jumps out and walks off without her wand scanner we had to go return it to her.
Does anybody know if these people doing the checks are volunteers or college students that are trying to go in to the field as a biologist or what. She is super nice and all but the reason I ask is I wonder how accurate are counts are if they can’t identify fish species correctly.
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Re: Fish checkers
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2023, 07:51:09 PM »
Two days ago in Tokeland they were only checking every other boat. WTF is with that? Something fishy going on. One of the checkers didn't know a coho from a Chinook.  :dunno:

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Re: Fish checkers
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2023, 07:51:58 PM »
This sounds like a fishing trip  that I had a few  weeks  ago, I posted the pic on FB on area 1-13 fishing, we marked it on card as a silver.   It sounds like the same lady, our fish was getting dark, very slimy, caught down past Richmond  Beach heading toward Shilshole.    She showed us why she called it a sockeye  but also took a picture to show her boss.   The tongue was white, no teeth to speak of.   After looking it over and researching some more, I think she is right.   First sockeye we ever ran across in the salt , or at least that I know of.    It was 7.09 pound

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Re: Fish checkers
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2023, 08:26:28 PM »
This sounds like a fishing trip  that I had a few  weeks  ago, I posted the pic on FB on area 1-13 fishing, we marked it on card as a silver.   It sounds like the same lady, our fish was getting dark, very slimy, caught down past Richmond  Beach heading toward Shilshole.    She showed us why she called it a sockeye  but also took a picture to show her boss.   The tongue was white, no teeth to speak of.   After looking it over and researching some more, I think she is right.   First sockeye we ever ran across in the salt , or at least that I know of.    It was 7.09 pound


I would have to see a picture of the actual fish to make a judgement call
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Re: Fish checkers
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2023, 08:48:00 PM »
I have another pic of actual fish but I cant figure  out how to make it load up.

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Re: Fish checkers
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2023, 08:52:37 PM »
here it is

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Re: Fish checkers
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2023, 09:04:19 PM »
Screenshot the pic then load the screenshot.

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Re: Fish checkers
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2023, 09:22:15 PM »
Full fish pic showed up. And I kinda half to agree too. Looks like a sockeye
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Re: Fish checkers
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2023, 09:43:01 PM »
That is a sockeye imho

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Re: Fish checkers
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2023, 12:50:51 AM »
Sockeye = no silver in the tail and no spots. Sockeye also have more gill rakers.

Hard to see tail in that photo but other than that, looks like a sockeye.
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Re: Fish checkers
« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2023, 05:57:25 AM »
This sounds like a fishing trip  that I had a few  weeks  ago, I posted the pic on FB on area 1-13 fishing, we marked it on card as a silver.   It sounds like the same lady, our fish was getting dark, very slimy, caught down past Richmond  Beach heading toward Shilshole.    She showed us why she called it a sockeye  but also took a picture to show her boss.   The tongue was white, no teeth to speak of.   After looking it over and researching some more, I think she is right.   First sockeye we ever ran across in the salt , or at least that I know of.    It was 7.09 pound
Well she might have been right on our fish.
Looking at the picture ours was similar I think.
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,280622.0.html
This picture of his silver has a dark tail that has no silver in it either.
So I don’t know.

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Re: Fish checkers
« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2023, 08:23:33 AM »
The irony of folks on here railing against this girl for not knowing how to ID a coho vs sockeye only for her to be right is pretty funny.
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« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2023, 12:06:31 PM »
LOL.

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Re: Fish checkers
« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2023, 04:58:13 PM »
Two days ago in Tokeland they were only checking every other boat. WTF is with that? Something fishy going on. One of the checkers didn't know a coho from a Chinook.  :dunno:
Gal that checked us in Chinook was only checking half the boats . Said it had to do with her being alone on a busy weekend.  Said they average the count . Another  way the great State gets an accurate fish count of harvested fish . Did you also know that every fish  released goes against the harvest quota .
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Re: Fish checkers
« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2023, 05:07:17 PM »
Two days ago in Tokeland they were only checking every other boat. WTF is with that? Something fishy going on. One of the checkers didn't know a coho from a Chinook.  :dunno:
Gal that checked us in Chinook was only checking half the boats . Said it had to do with her being alone on a busy weekend.  Said they average the count . Another  way the great State gets an accurate fish count of harvested fish . Did you also know that every fish  released goes against the harvest quota .

This is why I think that we should keep native and hatchery fish and use barbed hooks.

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Re: Fish checkers
« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2023, 05:07:54 PM »
The 3 at sekiu weren't even walking the docks or getting out of their tent.
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« Reply #21 on: August 28, 2023, 05:24:19 PM »
The 3 at sekiu weren't even walking the docks or getting out of their tent.

I think all they were doing were counting boats and people.

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Re: Fish checkers
« Reply #22 on: August 28, 2023, 06:18:07 PM »
Two days ago in Tokeland they were only checking every other boat. WTF is with that? Something fishy going on. One of the checkers didn't know a coho from a Chinook.  :dunno:
Gal that checked us in Chinook was only checking half the boats . Said it had to do with her being alone on a busy weekend.  Said they average the count . Another  way the great State gets an accurate fish count of harvested fish . Did you also know that every fish  released goes against the harvest quota .

This is why I think that we should keep native and hatchery fish and use barbed hooks.
Or when they ask " how many released " just answer 0
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« Reply #23 on: August 28, 2023, 06:38:27 PM »
Two days ago in Tokeland they were only checking every other boat. WTF is with that? Something fishy going on. One of the checkers didn't know a coho from a Chinook.  :dunno:
Gal that checked us in Chinook was only checking half the boats . Said it had to do with her being alone on a busy weekend.  Said they average the count . Another  way the great State gets an accurate fish count of harvested fish . Did you also know that every fish  released goes against the harvest quota .

This is why I think that we should keep native and hatchery fish and use barbed hooks.
Or when they ask " how many released " just answer 0

That is policy with our group. It probably doesn’t matter though.

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Re: Fish checkers
« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2023, 07:23:32 PM »
Two days ago in Tokeland they were only checking every other boat. WTF is with that? Something fishy going on. One of the checkers didn't know a coho from a Chinook.  :dunno:
Gal that checked us in Chinook was only checking half the boats . Said it had to do with her being alone on a busy weekend.  Said they average the count . Another  way the great State gets an accurate fish count of harvested fish . Did you also know that every fish  released goes against the harvest quota .

This is why I think that we should keep native and hatchery fish and use barbed hooks.
Or when they ask " how many released " just answer 0

That is policy with our group. It probably doesn’t matter though.
Ours also . They are probably amazed that all we ever catch are keepers  :chuckle:
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« Reply #25 on: August 29, 2023, 06:50:30 AM »
The 3 at sekiu weren't even walking the docks or getting out of their tent.

We netted around 75-85 fish on swiftsure to get 5 limits on Aug 5th. Granted around half were pinks. We kept a few to fill the limit when it was time to go.
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Re: Fish checkers
« Reply #26 on: August 29, 2023, 10:00:35 AM »
We came into Canby by ilwaco last Friday and she was only checking for crab. She said 13% of boats were crabbing. One of the biggest fisheries in the nw being the b10 fishery and they don't care 🤷‍♂️ Not her fault, she's only doing what they have instructed her to do.

 


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