Just got out of a meet and greet with Lorna Smith

[Firstgenhunter]

Firstgen, thanks for being so involved in this fight and for keeping us all abreast. Big kudos for the covert tactics at the Sierra meeting lol  These people are insufferable, lying little sh*@$ and if a war is what they want, then I don't think we should disappoint them. They don't just want an equal "seat at the table" like they claim. They want the whole damn thing. There is zero interest in working with us - they simply want what they want. I'll be in Oly for the upcoming meetings.

"Best available science" policy being if the science doesn't align with their desired outcome, they reverse engineer to make sure it does. Classic science and policy.

"I would not be surprised that we see them trying to clean house in the next few years."
I think this is just about a guarantee.

It'll be good to see you down south in Olympia. Semi Bird is speaking as well! Keep rallying everyone. Pack the room and pack that building. Its okay if not everyone speaks. Last meeting was the start, the sleeping giant for hunters is growing more and more. Its finally waking up. Speak at any meeting you can. I really think we'll get at least 50-100 people in Olympia and that's the minimum!

[fishngamereaper]

I think you could pack the house and it wouldn't have an impact.

Not being negative... just realistic.

The commission has been given Carte Blanche to do as they please.. protected by the Governor, the AG and over half of "our" elected reps.

I repeatedly email my reps and get the same canned responses. It's pretty obvious Hunter's are not important to this State..

This feels very much like the recent firearms/ mags ban "laws"...get involved, email's, meeting's, speaking to reps..etc. Made no difference..

Our Washington government is operating unchecked with zero fear of legal ramifications... complete wilfull and wanton disregard of the laws and rights that mainly affect the conservatives of Wa...

Seems the only way out of this mess is a Republican governor..

[Mtnwalker]

I think we need to keep these commissioners openly discussing their agenda and keep it well documented (preferably recorded) like they tried to do with the sierra meeting. The RCW's are clear, even though they are not currently being enforced eventually we will have enough ammo for a successful suit if they keep being as flagrantly open about it as they have been lately.. 

[vandeman17]

If and when they do take away predator hunting and likely change elk over to draw only, what will you guys do for hunting? Continue here in Washington or spend your time and money in other states? I would love to move out of here but owning a gym and a cabin here pretty much keeps me in this state for the foreseeable future

[Firstgenhunter]

If and when they do take away predator hunting and likely change elk over to draw only, what will you guys do for hunting? Continue here in Washington or spend your time and money in other states? I would love to move out of here but owning a gym and a cabin here pretty much keeps me in this state for the foreseeable future

Dude I am leaving the westside in a year. Absoutely hate it over here. But I love the eastside, its full of great people and its very quiet, its become a 2nd home. I want to stay in the east as long as I can and I'll fight for as long as I can.

[HillHound]

I also own a business, a home, and a Cabin in Washington along with several other investments but if they take everything away from me that I enjoy and love to do here I am going to be gone. My son  will be done with school and hopefully out doing his own thing in the next 2 to 5 years and if I am unable to hunt coyotes bobcats  bears cougars deer and elk over the counter like I always have then I will be moving to a state that I can. I work so I can enjoy life. I don’t just work to survive. If they take all my enjoyment from me which hunting basically is most of my enjoyment I really have no reason to be here regardless of being a lifetime resident, owning  multiple properties, a business and have basically 95% of my family that lives in the state. I do hunt out of state each year but I am not one of those guys that gets their fix going out to camp for a week or two out of the year. I love to do that with the best of them but I am hunting on a daily basis And if I’m not I’m thinking about it. I can hunt out my back door I can jump in the side-by-side and go cover 10,000 acres if I want . I can hunt every day of the year.I am sure there are more than a couple states that would love to take my tax money and I’m sure they would give me some great hunting opportunities in exchange. I would much rather stay here where I am at with things staying just how they are… But if this crap goes through I’m definitely on the five-year or less plan to get out

[blackdog]

They are monitoring.

[highcountry_hunter]

If and when they do take away predator hunting and likely change elk over to draw only, what will you guys do for hunting? Continue here in Washington or spend your time and money in other states? I would love to move out of here but owning a gym and a cabin here pretty much keeps me in this state for the foreseeable future

Dude I am leaving the westside in a year. Absoutely hate it over here. But I love the eastside, its full of great people and its very quiet, its become a 2nd home. I want to stay in the east as long as I can and I'll fight for as long as I can.

It ain’t as quiet as it used to be pard…turning into a real zoo around here. I’m about to start calling Colville little Seattle


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[Fidelk]

Is she in a position that we get to vote on......sounds like a good person to vote against? Saying that sportsmen don't finance wildlife is inexcusable. It would almost be worth it to boycott buying licenses, ammo and guns for a year just to get that point across.

[jackelope]

Is she in a position that we get to vote on......sounds like a good person to vote against? Saying that sportsmen don't finance wildlife is inexcusable. It would almost be worth it to boycott buying licenses, ammo and guns for a year just to get that point across.

They’re appointed by the governor.

[snake]

Thanks for fighting for us. Too bad a lot of our own are so negative. Please keep your mouth shut if your not going to give your support.

[elksnout]

Thanks for fighting for us. Too bad a lot of our own are so negative. Please keep your mouth shut if your not going to give your support.

 


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[Gringo31]

I think you could pack the house and it wouldn't have an impact.

Not being negative... just realistic.

The commission has been given Carte Blanche to do as they please.. protected by the Governor, the AG and over half of "our" elected reps.

I repeatedly email my reps and get the same canned responses. It's pretty obvious Hunter's are not important to this State..

This feels very much like the recent firearms/ mags ban "laws"...get involved, email's, meeting's, speaking to reps..etc. Made no difference..

Our Washington government is operating unchecked with zero fear of legal ramifications... complete wilfull and wanton disregard of the laws and rights that mainly affect the conservatives of Wa...

Seems the only way out of this mess is a Republican governor..

I encourage all of you to do all you can do but in the end, THIS above is IMO where we stand.

[buckfvr]

I think you could pack the house and it wouldn't have an impact.

Not being negative... just realistic.

The commission has been given Carte Blanche to do as they please.. protected by the Governor, the AG and over half of "our" elected reps.

I repeatedly email my reps and get the same canned responses. It's pretty obvious Hunter's are not important to this State..

This feels very much like the recent firearms/ mags ban "laws"...get involved, email's, meeting's, speaking to reps..etc. Made no difference..

Our Washington government is operating unchecked with zero fear of legal ramifications... complete wilfull and wanton disregard of the laws and rights that mainly affect the conservatives of Wa...

Seems the only way out of this mess is a Republican governor..

I have at times been vocal and involved with fish and game issues for over 40 years now and at no time that I can remember, have the sportsmens/womans voices fallen on such deaf ears.  No one is listening, no one cares what we think (gov, ag, commissioners).  They are beyond our reach and exempt from discipline.  Severe consequences for their actions is the only deterrent and even that is unproven.

[GASoline71]

All I can say to you naysayers is either lead, follow or get the hell out of the way... there ARE positive things happening.  You just have to open your eyes to see them.

There are a lot of people working their asses off volunteering their time to ensure we have a voice, and our way of life is not taken from us.  I got no choice but to continue to fight with everything i got.  If it does happen, and we lose fishing and hunting in this state... when my grandkids ask me "Papa, how come we can't fish and hunt anymore?" I can look them in the eye and say, "I'm sorry things are the way they are. But Papa fought hard for our rights kiddo.  Papa fought hard."

To know I sat on my butt and did nothing, and it goes away... there is no way I can do that.

Gary